The Facade begins to unravel - Page 12

Originally posted by: pamk06

First, ST was so awesome in this scene depicting the panic and the fear of the moment.

@bold: Yes, Imlie is now afraid of the truth especially because of how it will impact all these relationship that she finds unmol. She is only worried about the T's, Malini and Aditya.. I do not think she has even reached a stage to think how the truth is going to affect her personally. She is only thinking about others and their pain and shock. But now witnessing the fights plus Aditya himself telling her that truth needs to be told might push her in that direction. I kind of feel that right now she is at a crossroads where on one side is her happiness and other side is Malini and she is trying to sacrifice herself for Malini. But Aditya is not like her. He is not a selfless person so for her he will stay with Malini but even for her he cannot lie to Malini which results in Malini being unhappy. This is what Imlie needs to understand that relationship cannot be forced and like she did not force her relationship back then she should not be forcing Malini's relationship on him too.

I think Aditya is just done. He is all ready to face the consequences and he just wants the truth to be out and the two things that are stopping him is Imlie vachan and Malani reaction. I guess he is at a point where he is also Ok if somebody else takes the mantle to tell the truth as long as the truth is out. His "kaise??" was so telling that he just does not know how to navigate this whole issue. Isse nahin hoga... I just cannot see him walking to his family and telling the truth or to Malani also. So the only way the truth is going come out will be in the form bombspot. He is suppressing his emotions and we can see them coming out in bursts so they going break through with all the pressure that he feeling. I think Imlie's reaction/actions to these fights are going to be his trigger. He can bear anything but not her distancing himself from him nor her unhappiness and a hint of that is going to be the final push for him.

Oh definitely Imlie is not even remotely thinking about what the truth revelation would mean for her and how it would impact her life and future.....her whole focus is only on how it would ruin all the relationships in the T family.

I'm still not sure what she is thinking with regards to seeing these fights b/w AM....we will need to see one of her introspection scenes or maybe a convo with Adi to get an idea about where her mind is.....I don't think she intends to force Adi to be with Malini....aur agar bolegi bhi toh Adi bhi use aage se yehi point bolega ki rishte zabardasti se nahin nibhaaye jaate.....and ab Malini ke saath har cheez feels like a zabardasti to him since he doesn't feel the emotions she is demanding from him. But then I keep coming back to the same basic point....Adi needs to clearly state ki ab yeh sab haq Malini ke nahin hain....cuz Imlie yehi point raise karti rahegi ki main Malini didi ka haq nahin le sakti toh you please give her her haq.....lol....is point pe Adi needs to explode soon to say it clear cut ki ab woh koi haq nahin de sakta Malini ko.

Re: truth revelation....yeah I also feel the same....Adi se khud se initiate nahin hoga convo....it will either come out in angry/emotional impulse someday or they will find out from some third party and then Adi will explain the whole context jaise aaj Jainendra ko bhi samjha raha tha. Ek baar baat baahar aa gayi, then Adi will feel that sense of relief ki ab I can try to explain kya hua....but even then, he needs to do better than "humein bhi nahin pata humare saath kya ho raha hai".....lol that is basically what he's been telling the Editor....usse toh better explanation dena padega khud ki family ko when they ask him ki do do shaadiyaan kyun ki😆

So after the whole "Jhaansi ka roop" 😛 of Malani yesterday with all her right questions of "Why did you marry me " and "why are you lying", in the end all Malini needs from this relationship is little time and one look of love from Aditya? Thats it .. She is all Ok to forget his past few days behavior, lies etc if he does that. Is that the length and breadth of the haq that she wants from him as a wife? or was that her desperation talking?

Originally posted by: -Srushti-

On reflection he is right...he has always apologized...and on the face of it, it does seem like he should..but by now we have gotten the gist of Didi's mind and you wonder how all these years Adi babu has kept calm with Mrs C and her taunts and Moonwa ki fake ghosty smiles...

Yes, wohi toh amazing conundrum hai.....lol both things are equally true...that he has always been the one to go and apologize/manaao her and that this time also, because he spoke rudely to her, apology toh banti thi.....

Adi has suppressed his real self for a DAMN long time and his own family also has no clue😆. Unko lagta hai ki he's always sadu/rude toh yeh sab apologizing and all is standard practice that he can keep on doing indefinitely.....but none of them get the base issue. Yes, Adi probably felt bad about the tone he used and he apologized for that but the bigger issue for him toh none of them understood.....and his point was yehi ki woh har baat ke liye blanket apology de raha hai itne time se, phir bhi sab log use hi sabse bura maante hain😆. Adi babu, yehi duniya ka dastoor hai....log bas tone dekhte hain, baat ka content nahin😆....aap jitne marzi sacche ban lo, log bas surface cheezon pe focus karte hain....baat ki gehraayi pe nahin.

This is again why he feels that connection to Imlie....she has looked beyond the surface into him....she understands the core of an issue rather than fixating on surface appearances....no doubt Imlie bhi apne tareeke mein usko chide kar leti hai when he gets rude in irritation....but she never turns it into a groveling game to belittle him.....that is why Imlie apologies maangti nahin, woh khud se de deta hai use....and now toh he's in the mood to compensate for all the apologies he didn't give her for so long😆

I also couldn't help but contrast the AM argument with the Adi-Imlie argument related to Prakash....tab bhi Adi in his jealousy was trying to deflect the argument into a totally different way to push Imlie into marrying Prakash....but Imlie cut through all his bullshit, told him straight up that he's lying to deflect from his real problem😆....and reiterated her own stance with firmness and dignity. That is why woh Imlie hai.....and Malini didi hasn't even managed to scratch the surface in 7 years....abhi bhi clueless ghoom rahi hai.....

Adi keeps thinking he has changed....but no, he has to realize that he has always been this way....Imlie ke saath bhi same hi personality flaws dikhaaye....but Imlie baat ki teh tak gayi unlike Malini who could never get a clue and still is totally clueless about him.

Originally posted by: pamk06

So after the whole "Jhaansi ka roop" 😛 of Malani yesterday with all her right questions of "Why did you marry me " and "why are you lying", in the end all Malini needs from this relationship is little time and one look of love from Aditya? Thats it .. She is all Ok to forget his past few days behavior, lies etc if he does that. Is that the length and breadth of the haq that she wants from him as a wife? or was that her desperation talking?

🤣....Wait, does this mean that Jhansi ki Rani wala Roop is acceptable now that delicate Didi has displayed it? 😛,.....cuz otherwise toh we were told not to expect this from her, right? 😆....we were told it's unfair expectation to expect Malini to be "strong"😆.....waise I don't think her tantrum yesterday showed any strength either toh khair chhodo😆.

To answer your question....yes😆....that is exactly what she conveyed....that she will get over everything - all his lies, avoidance of her etc. as long as he gives her wife wala HAQ😆....definitely seemed like desperation talking....cuz she didn't want to hear what Adi was saying at all....bas shout kar rahi thi and haq demand kar rahi thi.....and haq in her dictionary does seem to only constitute time and attention from him....uske aage I dunno😕😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Oh definitely Imlie is not even remotely thinking about what the truth revelation would mean for her and how it would impact her life and future.....her whole focus is only on how it would ruin all the relationships in the T family.

I'm still not sure what she is thinking with regards to seeing these fights b/w AM....we will need to see one of her introspection scenes or maybe a convo with Adi to get an idea about where her mind is.....I don't think she intends to force Adi to be with Malini....aur agar bolegi bhi toh Adi bhi use aage se yehi point bolega ki rishte zabardasti se nahin nibhaaye jaate.....and ab Malini ke saath har cheez feels like a zabardasti to him since he doesn't feel the emotions she is demanding from him. But then I keep coming back to the same basic point....Adi needs to clearly state ki ab yeh sab haq Malini ke nahin hain....cuz Imlie yehi point raise karti rahegi ki main Malini didi ka haq nahin le sakti toh you please give her her haq.....lol....is point pe Adi needs to explode soon to say it clear cut ki ab woh koi haq nahin de sakta Malini ko.

Re: truth revelation....yeah I also feel the same....Adi se khud se initiate nahin hoga convo....it will either come out in angry/emotional impulse someday or they will find out from some third party and then Adi will explain the whole context jaise aaj Jainendra ko bhi samjha raha tha. Ek baar baat baahar aa gayi, then Adi will feel that sense of relief ki ab I can try to explain kya hua....but even then, he needs to do better than "humein bhi nahin pata humare saath kya ho raha hai".....lol that is basically what he's been telling the Editor....usse toh better explanation dena padega khud ki family ko when they ask him ki do do shaadiyaan kyun ki😆

Haq has been the keyword for this whole track. Malini is asking for the haq , he has given it to Imlie and Imlie does not want Malani haq..... but haq in this relationship comes from the heart and when has nothing from Malani in his heart, how can he give it and he definitely needs to make that very clear to her... that her stance is only going to lead to unhappiness all around because Aditya cannot force himself to feel.

@bold: Even i want him to answer this question ki do shadi ki and now you are saying, you do not want the second marriage which was your "marzi" marriage. If he just puts it on "kismat" or "I dont know what happened" , I will be so mad at him. Because kismat ne to Imlie di thi then why did you go and get married again. As you say, they need to show more background to this relationship and how Aditya was never fully involved in it and their relationship was just hollow and had no substance rather than just making Aditya a scapegoat here by declaring that he took comfort for love

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yes, wohi toh amazing conundrum hai.....lol both things are equally true...that he has always been the one to go and apologize/manaao her and that this time also, because he spoke rudely to her, apology toh banti thi.....

Adi has suppressed his real self for a DAMN long time and his own family also has no clue😆. Unko lagta hai ki he's always sadu/rude toh yeh sab apologizing and all is standard practice that he can keep on doing indefinitely.....but none of them get the base issue. Yes, Adi probably felt bad about the tone he used and he apologized for that but the bigger issue for him toh none of them understood.....and his point was yehi ki woh har baat ke liye blanket apology de raha hai itne time se, phir bhi sab log use hi sabse bura maante hain😆. Adi babu, yehi duniya ka dastoor hai....log bas tone dekhte hain, baat ka content nahin😆....aap jitne marzi sacche ban lo, log bas surface cheezon pe focus karte hain....baat ki gehraayi pe nahin. Wow yaar AY!! word on each of this!!

This is again why he feels that connection to Imlie....she has looked beyond the surface into him....she understands the core of an issue rather than fixating on surface appearances....no doubt Imlie bhi apne tareeke mein usko chide kar leti hai when he gets rude in irritation....but she never turns it into a groveling game to belittle him.....that is why Imlie apologies maangti nahin, woh khud se de deta hai use....and now toh he's in the mood to compensate for all the apologies he didn't give her for so long😆

I also couldn't help but contrast the AM argument with the Adi-Imlie argument related to Prakash....tab bhi Adi in his jealousy was trying to deflect the argument into a totally different way to push Imlie into marrying Prakash....but Imlie cut through all his bullshit, told him straight up that he's lying to deflect from his real problem😆....and reiterated her own stance with firmness and dignity. That is why woh Imlie hai.....and Malini didi hasn't even managed to scratch the surface in 7 years....abhi bhi clueless ghoom rahi hai.....

Oh this one.❤️..And as you rightly put it Imlie being Imlie...she didnt even accept that Apology...She just had had enough...and she actually brought him to his knees...LITERALLY!! That was a damn damn good scene..shot so beautifully!!! Babu sahib following his Dulhaniya across the jungles of Pagdandiya!!!

Adi keeps thinking he has changed....but no, he has to realize that he has always been this way....Imlie ke saath bhi same hi personality flaws dikhaaye....but Imlie baat ki teh tak gayi unlike Malini who could never get a clue and still is totally clueless about him. They both are core good people and that wont change...and however much he says that She is the opposite of him (reference that dining room conversation with Nishant and Moonwa...) she is core the same...Passionately righteous and sticking to their beliefs like life lines, hating the lives of lies, ambitious, making it big, supporting each other through thick and thin...inspiring each other yet not leeching on each other..they are so intertwined,,,and yet so independent!!

Originally posted by: pamk06

@bold: Even i want him to answer this question ki do shadi ki and now you are saying, you do not want the second marriage which was your "marzi" marriage. If he just puts it on "kismat" or "I dont know what happened" , I will be so mad at him. Because kismat ne to Imlie di thi then why did you go and get married again. As you say, they need to show more background to this relationship and how Aditya was never fully involved in it and their relationship was just hollow and had no substance rather than just making Aditya a scapegoat here by declaring that he took comfort for love

LOL I feel like by the time the family finds out, Adi ko thodi aur clarity mil chuki hogi about why exactly he denied Kismat ka likha and married Malini😆....filhaal he's oscillating between realizing ki it was never love with Malini and that he has discovered love for the first time with Imlie, who also happens to be the one destiny tied him to by getting him married to her first.....toh he does need to find a way to explain all this when the time comes😆.....cuz obvious question sabhi puchhenge ki why did you make it seem like you married Malini out of your choice and ab bol rahe ho you don't want to be in this marriage.

If we go by the hints they are showing of the unraveling between AM via these arguments daily, then possibility toh hai of Adi bursting out one day admitting ki itne saal it just felt like an obligation that he nibhaaoed....and usi obligation ke chakkar mein shaadi bhi kar li😆....

Originally posted by: -Srushti-

They both are core good people and that wont change...and however much he says that She is the opposite of him (reference that dining room conversation with Nishant and Moonwa...) she is core the same...Passionately righteous and sticking to their beliefs like life lines, hating the lives of lies, ambitious, making it big, supporting each other through thick and thin...inspiring each other yet not leeching on each other..they are so intertwined,,,and yet so independent!!

@bold: Word...so beautifully put, Srush! ❤️....that is the most beautiful part about their relationship.

Re: that vision of a partner convo....lol I think Adi's point regarding that was more regarding someone who's thought process is not just a regurgitation of his own.....at their core, yes Adi-Imlie are very similar in terms of their ideals and values....but they do have different views on many topics....yet that difference in views is not cause for strife between them....they challenge each other out of their comfort zones and belief systems....especially for Adi, it's been very refreshing to have someone pull him out of his complacent views on life and challenge him enough to actually manage to see his own real self too....which was always more rooted/earthy than he realized.....I think that's what he was referring to as he talked about a partner that helps you see all your truths, no matter how uncomfortable....that is what Imlie has been for him....a totally honest reflection.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL that actually just made me laugh....she was trying to say it with her "cute" wala face accompanied with her usual giggles like it's oh so cute to laugh over Imlie ke "tamaashe"😆.....Malini and reading the room? Aap kuch zyada nahin expect kar rahi Didi se?😆

Malini definitely tries in her subtle ways to relegate Imlie either to naukar status or to an object of ridicule.....isse nahin bardaasht hota that Imlie becomes the object of admiration vis a vis being praised for her confidence/poise. She can praise Imlie but only within the parameters that are acceptable to her....that Imlie is some childish crackpot who solves ghar ke random issues.....anything more than that which inches towards the perception that Imlie can praised on an "equal" scale as her, toh Malini's face falls....as was obvious with her reaction to the family praising Imlie for the PC.

Education is a great equalizer na....and as Imlie climbs the ladder of education, acquires the polish that comes with it, she will come into her own full potential...which will not just pull her up to the levels of Malini in terms of education/appearance, but move her much beyond that cuz she is a much more naturally dynamic personality destined to draw awe from people. I feel like Malini subtly senses all of this and is acting out because of that also....right now, no matter how much everyone praises Imlie in the family, her social standing remains below that of Malini na, so Malini is ok with participating along in that praise since it never feels like Imlie can be considered equal to her/better than her....but as Imlie is crossing milestones in her education - first with this exam, now moving onto college, Malini is feeling that sense of superiority slipping away from her subconsciously.....and it's revealing an unpleasant side to her personality of envy, pettiness towards a girl who has unconditionally given her adoration.

All of this is seperate from her resentment of Adi giving Imlie importance.....I think even without that, Malini is growing resentful of Imlie being viewed as anything other than a jhalli clown.....it is comfortable for her that Imlie be viewed as a joke...not something to take seriously....but that press conference challenged that perception as Imlie impressed everyone....and it gave Malini pause ki aise kaise ho sakta hai😆.

@bold - absolutely. It is as though the statewide second rank finally registered then too; while watching Imlie on TV. The resentment she has been building up is actually coming out in the open more often too. Not that Aditya needed anything else to go off on her but that remark in the living room annoyed him no end. Enough to set him off.

All this only makes it seem like even her self-confidence that comes with being a professor in supposedly a good college is a mirage as well. There is absolutely nothing in her right now that showcases her in a good light as a modern woman. Healthy competition is one thing, what she is experiencing is plain jealousy. Unnecessarily so. Maybe it has got to do with the fact that she never had any sibling to grow up with, to compare against. But goes to show that most of the time background can never be a barter for strength of character. Which is why when the truth comes, it will be her exaggerated self-opinion that is going to take a beating.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

🤣....Wait, does this mean that Jhansi ki Rani wala Roop is acceptable now that delicate Didi has displayed it? 😛,.....cuz otherwise toh we were told not to expect this from her, right? 😆....we were told it's unfair expectation to expect Malini to be "strong"😆.....waise I don't think her tantrum yesterday showed any strength either toh khair chhodo😆.

To answer your question....yes😆....that is exactly what she conveyed....that she will get over everything - all his lies, avoidance of her etc. as long as he gives her wife wala HAQ😆....definitely seemed like desperation talking....cuz she didn't want to hear what Adi was saying at all....bas shout kar rahi thi and haq demand kar rahi thi.....and haq in her dictionary does seem to only constitute time and attention from him....uske aage I dunno😕😆

🤣🤣 Lets just say it was that because delicate Malini se isse jyaada umeed karna nahi chahiye because you know all women are not capable of it even when fighting for their most valuable thing in this world ..

Woh kitna bhi bole, she cannot hear the truth, she does not want to hear the truth nor will she be able to handle the truth... Uske bas ki baat hain hi nahi.In the end, she was putting a guilt on him ki give me the haq instead of even listening to his words. Remember Aditya-Imlie fight after the pooja, even then Aditya had said everything in a roundabout way but Imlie has deciphered it and replied accordingly. Today too Aditya said everything, he gave her hints that he is scared she will faint and then she will leave food and Mrs C's reaction but was she even listening to him. She was on her own tirade and did not even come back with ki she fainted because Aditya said he got married, she left food because Aditya left nor did she connect ki if he is fearing her extreme reaction then the truth is way more serious than she thinks it is. She is not giving much credit to it. She is thinking all the issues will be resolved if they spend time together.

Should I be feeling taras on her on obliviousness? I am not sure but isse ise jyaada umeed karna bewakoofi hain.