EMOTIONAL VIDEO: Veteran Lyricist Santosh Anand ji - Page 5

This is not about one santosh anand

Many cricketers died without money for treatments as BCCI gave them pittance before even after winning world cup 1983 - even kapil dev said bcci has his money with them once cricketer finishes tournament or retires settle his money why keep with company

In company same thing happens employee creates a content or product and who makes billions the company

Employee gets a 3 lakh 5 lakh salary per year thats all company makes 10-50 million dollars out of his creation or software

Everywhere exploitation going on but everyone turning blind

Originally posted by: surajhere

If all these singers, Music Composers and Lyricist had supported Lata Mangeshkar's stand many of them wouldn't have died in penury.

She had demanded a 5% royalty from the producers share and had hoped that Rafi would support this just demand. But Rafi opposed her. I guess, so she cut a deal for herself. This kind of Royalty was given to select Music composers, not all MC's. Lata too wanted it for her songs.

Rafi's logic for opposing Lata is so bad, he did not even realize that he was rejecting his status as a creative artist. He was part of an artistic creation and yet he wanted one-time payment while music companies earned money whenever that song was played anywhere.

Lata Mangeshkar was also the one who insisted that songs of singers be printed on the covers on the Vinyls. Earlier Music companies never printed names of singers so people had no idea who the singer was.

So if singers, music composers and lyricists and their families, , are getting royalty for their artworks then it is significantly due to the conflict initiated by Lata Mangeshkar.

I think music composer must get 40% lyricist 40% its their song singer just singing may be 10% and company 10% is best

but reverse happening company or producer 90% singer 5% music composer and lyricist 0%

First song belongs to writer and music composer in equal amt

very less contribution by singer only voice lending

I searched and found Santosh annad wrote for purab aur paschim that had good memorable songs and tiranga movie and prem rog

This song written by him

Yeh aan tiranga hai,

Yeh shaan tiranga hai,

Meri jaan tiranga hai,

Meri jaan tiranga hai

Yeh aan tiranga hai,

Yeh shaan tiranga hai

Yeh aan tiranga hai,

Yeh shaan tiranga hai

Meri jaan tiranga hai,

Meri jaan tiranga hai

Mohobaat hai kya cheez

Yeh galiyan yeh chaubara

apart from shor songs

Originally posted by: myviewprem

I think music composer must get 40% lyricist 40% its their song singer just singing may be 10% and company 10% is best

but reverse happening company or producer 90% singer 5% music composer and lyricist 0%

First song belongs to writer and music composer in equal amt

very less contribution by singer only voice lending

its a team work ...a tune is nothing without a good soulful voice and a soulful voice couldnt do much without good tunes or lyrics ...singers singing matters many of the song of this decade faded out with good melodies just because the guy who got popular got to sing every song without noticing that the particular songs suited the voice or not ....javid akhtar rightly said " koi bhi geet amar nahi hosakta baghair ek khoobsurat awaz ke ek khoobsurat dhun ke or khoobsurat lafzoon ke , dhun ek khoobsurat jism hai jisay sunte he sabse pehle wohe attract krta hai , ...

Kal Ho Na Ho would have not been a classic kal ho na ho as it is today without sonu nigam voice ..... see how shankar madevan a composer sang it although he is best singer in composer but he messed the feel of words which is a singer forte ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvuw0yXZ81U

Originally posted by: surajhere

If all these singers, Music Composers and Lyricist had supported Lata Mangeshkar's stand many of them wouldn't have died in penury.

She had demanded a 5% royalty from the producers share and had hoped that Rafi would support this just demand. But Rafi opposed her. I guess, so she cut a deal for herself. This kind of Royalty was given to select Music composers, not all MC's. Lata too wanted it for her songs.

Rafi's logic for opposing Lata is so bad, he did not even realize that he was rejecting his status as a creative artist. He was part of an artistic creation and yet he wanted one-time payment while music companies earned money whenever that song was played anywhere.

Lata Mangeshkar was also the one who insisted that songs of singers be printed on the covers on the Vinyls. Earlier Music companies never printed names of singers so people had no idea who the singer was.

So if singers, music composers and lyricists and their families, , are getting royalty for their artworks then it is significantly due to the conflict initiated by Lata Mangeshkar.

Yes I had mentioned this but thanks for giving a much more detailed version.

Lataji did initiate it but hers was specifically for singers right? It was the music directors of the 90s generation took it forward so that MDs and lyricists get their due. And Lataji herself had said that she should've brought up the topic when she was an MP...she had said that to Javed Akhtar, theres an article on it too.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

This is not about one santosh anand

Many cricketers died without money for treatments as BCCI gave them pittance before even after winning world cup 1983 - even kapil dev said bcci has his money with them once cricketer finishes tournament or retires settle his money why keep with company

In company same thing happens employee creates a content or product and who makes billions the company

Employee gets a 3 lakh 5 lakh salary per year thats all company makes 10-50 million dollars out of his creation or software

Everywhere exploitation going on but everyone turning blind

I think u miss the point here. Music directors and lyricists have worked on products that generate tremendous amount of passive income in the form of royalties which increases exponentially over the years. And the ones who created the magic are the ones suffering today.

Exploitation is everywhere and I do know about the cricket scenario you're telling me about...of course I condemn it. Although the newer generation of cricket has managed to amen a difference and seniors like Kapil Dev, Sidhu and Sunil Gavaskar have been earning from matches and commentaries. Surely BCCI should also bring a change in their rules.

However this topic is specifically on the music industry...and to call a legend one santosh anand is quite inconsiderate of the overall picture.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

I think music composer must get 40% lyricist 40% its their song singer just singing may be 10% and company 10% is best

but reverse happening company or producer 90% singer 5% music composer and lyricist 0%

First song belongs to writer and music composer in equal amt

very less contribution by singer only voice lending

Your thought is exactly how it works but the shares are different.

Out of 100% of the royalty generated, the publisher gets 50%...the remaining 50% gets divided amongst song-writers i.e music director and lyricist. So if we take a song like Ek Pyar Ka Nagma Hai, Laxmikant-Pyarelal with individually get 12.5% while Santosh Anand ji gets 25%.

Singers in India don't get their royalties yet and their share is generated from elsewhere....not from the 100% pie, thats what I presume. Because that is the authors' right which in India is the music director and lyricist.

Originally posted by: Arsalan_khan

its a team work ...a tune is nothing without a good soulful voice and a soulful voice couldnt do much without good tunes or lyrics ...singers singing matters many of the song of this decade faded out with good melodies just because the guy who got popular got to sing every song without noticing that the particular songs suited the voice or not ....javid akhtar rightly said " koi bhi geet amar nahi hosakta baghair ek khoobsurat awaz ke ek khoobsurat dhun ke or khoobsurat lafzoon ke , dhun ek khoobsurat jism hai jisay sunte he sabse pehle wohe attract krta hai , ...

Kal Ho Na Ho would have not been a classic kal ho na ho as it is today without sonu nigam voice ..... see how shankar madevan a composer sang it although he is best singer in composer but he messed the feel of words which is a singer forte ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvuw0yXZ81U

While this post was specifically to spread awareness and talk about how legends are in trouble, it seems people have genuine curiosity now. So I can explain what I know.

See its not about one singer in particular. Its about the entire group of singers. Multiple versions of the song can be created by different singers but the tune and writing remains the same.

Since you are a fan of Sonu Nigam I'll give you his song's example...recently Ankhiyon Se Goli Maare was remade. The original had the voice of Sonu Nigam and Jaspinder Narula while the remake had the voices of Mika and Tulsi Kumar. So if both the versions' royalty is generated the first right goes to Anand-Milind and Sameer Anjaan who have created the song. But depending on the version the singer gets their due.

However international laws for Copyright and royalty either disregard singers or give them a small amount. The reason: singers are the faces of the song who can perform said song on various occasions and platforms and earn from shows.

Like the song you stated, Sonu Nigam must've sung Kal Ho Na Ho numerous times on stage and earned crores over it. But what did Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy and Javed Akhtar get? Nothing. Royalty is generated from live shows too, but the label ate up the creators' share while the singer earned from the live show. So who's been wronged here?

Shankar Mahadevan is singing it live so there will be discrepancies, you're forgetting that SEL are the people who taught Sonu the feel and emotion of the song, they focus on every damn detail the singer does on the mic, just like Pyareji corrected the contestants on Indian Idol in last week's episode...but if Shankar M would've sung it as a professional recording things would've been different. And that's the reason why composers sing their own songs today...coz if they don't get royalties they can sing it on stage and earn money.

About the share of singers, you need to read yourself why the authors/creators are more important, simply because they create the song. Singers can be changed but the main base of the song, the music and lyrics cannot be.

The singers are also chosen by the composers, they can find multiple voice to suit their song, but only one might get the chance on the mic...the same person earns huge amounts of money from shows singing that composition and lyrics...but the creators get nothing.

Thats the main point here.

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

While this post was specifically to spread awareness and talk about how legends are in trouble, it seems people have genuine curiosity now. So I can explain what I know.

See its not about one singer in particular. Its about the entire group of singers. Multiple versions of the song can be created by different singers but the tune and writing remains the same.

Since you are a fan of Sonu Nigam I'll give you his song's example...recently Ankhiyon Se Goli Maare was remade. The original had the voice of Sonu Nigam and Jaspinder Narula while the remake had the voices of Mika and Tulsi Kumar. So if both the versions' royalty is generated the first right goes to Anand-Milind and Sameer Anjaan who have created the song. But depending on the version the singer gets their due.

However international laws for Copyright and royalty either disregard singers or give them a small amount. The reason: singers are the faces of the song who can perform said song on various occasions and platforms and earn from shows.

Like the song you stated, Sonu Nigam must've sung Kal Ho Na Ho numerous times on stage and earned crores over it. But what did Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy and Javed Akhtar get? Nothing. Royalty is generated from live shows too, but the label ate up the creators' share while the singer earned from the live show. So who's been wronged here?

Shankar Mahadevan is singing it live so there will be discrepancies, you're forgetting that SEL are the people who taught Sonu the feel and emotion of the song, they focus on every damn detail the singer does on the mic, just like Pyareji corrected the contestants on Indian Idol in last week's episode...but if Shankar M would've sung it as a professional recording things would've been different. And that's the reason why composers sing their own songs today...coz if they don't get royalties they can sing it on stage and earn money.

About the share of singers, you need to read yourself why the authors/creators are more important, simply because they create the song. Singers can be changed but the main base of the song, the music and lyrics cannot be.

The singers are also chosen by the composers, they can find multiple voice to suit their song, but only one might get the chance on the mic...the same person earns huge amounts of money from shows singing that composition and lyrics...but the creators get nothing.

Thats the main point here.

Shankar is a maestro in singing while or recording doesn't matter to tranied people though the song feel was not upto the mark and secondly no singers too do not earn much from concert because if u followed the whole copyright thing u must have known that singers are made to accept a clause by music company's that 70 percent of amount a singer will earn from shows will be given to music company/labels.....and that remade you talked about is actually confusing part orginal makes are anand miland and sameer but tanishk will now demand royalty for the remake version of his attempts.... Composers who are singing too like shankar madevan can sing well enough in shows to earn some amount of money but the others like nadeem sharavan, nikhil vinay, anu malkk, anand miland who were not performers must be facing hardships I agree...

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

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You know, it pains me that I cannot do anything about it...I really wish if I was a lakhpati or having steady income myself I would help them all ❤️

Wow that’s such huge kindness. I don’t even know if I’d do that ❤️