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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: I-Am-SherLOCKED

Janki!!!! 🤗

I love the way you've said, "Sai Joshi hasn't accepted his apology." I have been fuming since the morning because I thought Sai melted too easily but your words have given me a new perspective. What made Sai give in so easily? Emotional exhaustion, actually acknowledging that he was sorry or just fear of losing one of the only people she'd begun considering as her own since her Aaba? Last week, she was angry with everyone in that house but she felt betrayed by Virat, she never would've thought that he would treat her this way. Maybe she just let this matter slide for now because as courageous and strong as she is, she needed to have Virat in her corner? The mild affection she feels for him overpowered all the hurt he caused.

I have never been in a romantic relationship so I don't know how the forgiveness-repentance cycle works but for somebody like Sai, who has such a strong sense of right and wrong and is more often than not is an excellent judge of character, I am surprised she didn't see how he was trying to squeeze forgiveness out of her. More than being sorry, he seemed embarrassed because how could self-proclaimed ladkiyon ki izzat karne wala do such a ghastly thing? It was less about the pain he caused her and more about him, which left me so annoyed. If Virat was truly sorry, he would've let her be for sometime, apologized obviously, but Sai needed time to reflect on and process everything that went down that day. In a span of few hours, she dealt with character assassination, verbal abuses and even physical abuse. She didn't get the required time to think about all that. It was purely her adrenaline which kept her going and at the first sight of some solace in the form of Ashwini and Mohit, she broke down, revealing how the day's ordeal had broken her. I doubt even the writers put in so much thought to this but I think it was highly opportunistic of Virat to approach her at a time where she was her weakest- both emotionally and physically. She just didn't have the energy anymore.

Sai is never going to forget this day obviously but Virat's vada seems to be as khokli as his other vadas. If Kusum Dola is to be believed, he is going to kick her out of the house for the Devyani and Pulkit fiasco. Even if Sai found it in her heart to forgive Virat this time or even just 'let it go' because he shed copious tears, if Virat actually ends up kicking her out, that will be one time too many.

Aahhh this! This line just hit it out of the park! How wonderful it would've been had they not limited the apology to one scene, one confrontation. People require time to forgive. Had they shown the process of healing over a couple of episodes, the first step being her not leaving home, second maybe accepting his apology, then Sai apologizing for her own comparatively smaller mistake, then finally reverting back to normal, step by step. It would've been more believable this way, and would probably have been soothing for the audience too. Had virat said something like I understand you're hurt, and you need time, so I'll leave you to it until you're ready to forgive me, then that would've been healthier.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I feel you! Even though Janki's beautiful analysis (as always), did give me some perspective, I just haven't been able to digest these episodes. I liked the last bit of the apology, where they implied that she hadn't forgiven him yet. The family moment tugged at my heart a little, but for some reason this whole episode has left a bad taste in my mouth. The intent of the apology had more to do with Virat trying to remove this ugly blotch from his character, him trying to clear his conscience, than genuinely seeking forgiveness from her. The candy floss scene had me cringing, didn't seem organic at all. I am thinking of taking a break from this show too. It's kinda messing with my belief system.

@ bold - completely agree and also the fact as someone had pointed in a previous post that Sai is immune to Virat’s charm and aura and that’s something he is not able to take in his stride.

That’s also one of the reason that he had been trying to show the best version of himself in front of her.

But unfortunately for him his one of worst version came in front of her and now he is trying his best to cover it up.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Lovely analysis. I loved today's episode. Virat apologised to Sai and for the first time he didn't use Zimmedari but he said family. And, I think even Sai should have apologised for her behaviour. She too was equally wrong. A person who apologises for his mistakes is great but the one who forgives is much greater than him.

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Awesome post Janaki . I am happy that Virat leaving his ego aside apologized for his mistake and truly repented for it . For me that’s more than enough . I am not sure if Sai forgave him or not but for me if a person accepts his mistake , feels genuinely sorry about it then he is a bigger person than the one who refuses to acknowledge his or her share of mistake .


Two incidences I would like to talk about is

1. When Sai mentioned about Virat’s real self coming out when he is angry , I just wanted her to realize that it applies to her as well. Her ugly side was seen in the confrontation and I am sure her Aaba would not be proud to see this side of hers.


2. When she said her Aaba would never hurt her this way . Well , a husband wife relationship is so different from that of father daughter. You can expect an unconditional live from patents but spouses have lot of expectations. I don’t think she realizes that he can never be her Aaba nor can she be his Aai . Virat’s Aai doesn’t even require an explanation or apology from her son to forgive him but she expects them .


I found Virat to be quite straightforward today whereas Sai was the one confused one . I think after this incident, Virat believes Sai doesn’t care for him and he doesn’t hold any importance in her life .

Yes, agree. Virat apologised for his behaviour and his apology was genuine. Sai left no time in reminding him of his real self when he was angry. But, how about her? Was she any less than him? I know Virat was more aggressive but she too left no stone unturned when she was angry. And, she too should apologise. But, will she?

Sai said her Aaba would have never hurt her. My question is whose parents hurt their kids even in the most grave situation? Viart is not her Aaba. We get unconditional love only from our parents, but the spouse do have some expectation. And, if so Sai too can never become his Aai who understands him even if he doesn't voice out his thoughts.

And, what was the need to bring Pakhi in their conversation? If Virat had started the topic Sai wouldn't have liked it, but it was good that he asked her to forget about Pakhi.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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After watching today’s episode I was left with a sense, it was good but could've been better


And I am going to attribute and hold responsible - direction/editing/writing team for the lukewarm feeling of the episode which made me feel disconnected or wanting for more. It could have been an milestone episode in sairat relationship, where they could have had open talk and hashed out the grievances to each other. Tbh I felt important things were brushed under the carpet.


They never discussed the third wheel Pakhi didi in the relationship or how Sai outed the whole pyarosti in front of the family or the money he took back from her.


Sai didn’t apologise today. Though her mistakes are smaller compared to his gunas I expected her to apologise. How much ever adamant she is, she has got a strong sense of right and wrong and her moral compass at the right place. During the apology she could have also told him the reason for her anger like he did. It could have covered the point Aai made about women can get angry too.


If she can apologise to her Aaba’s photo it should be easy to voice the same to Virat as well. By doing this she is conveying he also means something and her sach is ‘Virat Sai keliye kuch maine rakhta hai’.


Ideal thing for Sai would be to walk out, not only because of Virat but for the chakram gang crap which she puts up with everyday. It’s really unhealthy on so many levels. Added to that Virat seems really oblivious to his family’s and Pakhi didi’s taunts.

What happened last week should have been a breaking point for Sai. She should have said enough is enough and walked out.


But Sai has chosen to forgive Virat and give him another chance. Somewhat I understand her predicament. It’s choosing between devil and the deep sea. She has chosen the chakram devils and giving them one more chance.


Real or Reel couples sometimes cross the line then repent, redeem and rebuild their relationship. While Virat repentance is good but rebuilding (I don’t know if I can call that because relationship is not built yet) with a third wheel Pakhi is going to be humongous task ahead.


Currently I am not able to say Sai loves him or started developing feelings for him, and same with Virat. She has gratitude and he is still in the you are my responsibility zone IMO.


As always wonderful analysis. Going to watch it again with your perspective in mind ;)


Hoping tomorrow they will come up with better episode.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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As usual thought provoking analysis!


Well vitat told his sachayis to two confused ladies in his life. To pp- your sachayai you know but for me you’re my bro’s wife and friend, nothing else now or ever...

To sai- I know I’m nothing to you but tum mere liye miyane rakhti ho..

I guess pp needs to hear sayi’s sachai and sayi needs to hear pp’s..

Problem solved!!


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Originally posted by: Sunshinebhumii

As usual thought provoking analysis!


Well vitat told his sachayis to two confused ladies in his life. To pp- your sachayai you know but for me you’re my bro’s wife and friend, nothing else now or ever...

To sai- I know I’m nothing to you but tum mere liye miyane rakhti ho..

I guess pp needs to hear sayi’s sachai and sayi needs to hear pp’s..

Problem solved!!



Yaar if they ithna spashtly communicate the serial will end. Golgol jelebhi ghumaane meinhi profit hai PH keliye 😉😁


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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Suprabhat Bhagininno! 🌻🌄🌻

I want to start with one of my favourite couplets: "Rahiman dhaga prem ka matt todo chhatkay, toote se phir na jude jude gaanth padh jaaye..."

I want to talk about the 'knots' first --

Tying a "knot" in English signifies the coming together of two people; in Hindi it's the 'gathbandhan'. Like when two ropes that need to be joined together, you fasten a knot so that it appears like one. Whether the long rope thus created is strong enough to carry the weight it must or not depends on how well the knot is fastened -- if not done well, the knot can definitely come undone and the two pieces of the rope will appear disjointed again.

But do ropes with knots that are tied well never come undone? If they are left to dry in the heat of the son, without the constant care and recheck that they need with passing time, the best of the knots would definitely snap, leaving the two ropes dangling as single pieces. What's worse is that a dried rope cannot be joined again, even in a knot.

Now, coming to the exact translation of the 'knot' in Hindi- it is called the 'gaanth' most commonly- the point of obstacle in a smooth thread. A gathbandhan is desirable but a gaanth is not.

But when a rope has snapped and you are left with two loose ends, the only available option is to find a knot than to let the rope slip from the hand. Why is it that people are often reminded that a 'gaanth' in a family relationship is never easy to remove.

It is especially true of spousal relationships -- sometimes it comes in the form of a tangled rope where the spouses don't always know how to remove the tangles they find themselves in when faced with a conflict or confrontation. Conflict resolution is uncomfortable and spouses can remain tied in internal knots refusing to build a bridge between each other to cover the distance that the conflict has left behind. Over the weekend, most part of which I spent in packing a lot of belongings for an impending move, I kept wondering why do I still want to watch this relationship unfolding on the screen.. why do I still have stronger curiousity instead of the frustration that I am also feeling... And I realised that I have been untying knots my whole life... 😅 The success in untying the knots does not come from the skill of solving a Rubik's cube but from the mindset. Whether it's a knot in a neckpiece, your Diwali sting lights or the long hosepipe of the garden or a whistle laynard in your uniform or the shoestring or just an invisible knot in a love relationship, the success of smoothening the chords depends on the approach that couples take.

Almost all relationships go through a situation where it develops knots -- disillusionment is a definite stage in every love relationship. Some face it early, some face it later and some remain in a perpetual state of disillusion if they don't adopt the right mindset.

Can Sai and Virat accept the conflicts between them as an invitation to come closer to understanding one another? So that it can end the days of pouting and definitely no thoughts of 'punishment' of any kind -- whether by the verbalised denial of food and physical force or even the non-verbal punishment of silence. Yes, silent treatment is also a mild form of punishment and has been long accepted because it is harmless but nevertheless it is 'punishment'. Either of the spouse even thinking of 'punishing' the other is working well to add a knot to the relationship. Instead, conflicts can be treated as an invitation to start conversations but who are we even talking about? Lack of communication is their forte...

Their disappointment remained conspicuously suspended between them even in the apology... The 'gaanth' has emerged.

In the past few days, the humiliation that Sai ensured -- beginning from the Ladakh outing fiasco to the humiliation at the hands of the one who should be standing up for her honour, she of course felt overwhelmed and her survial instinct took over to guard her remaining self respect. The 'gaanth' here has come not just from the physical force or the denial of food or the reminder about the ownership of the money at the hands of the one who should have been "protecting those rights". This 'gaanth' is of a deeper let down -- as I said the other day -- it was denying Sai the right to "come back home"... And home, here, is not their rotting mansion. The 'home' is the person -- the very person who stood in her way to deprive her of the right. It is the 'home' that you never want to leave once you settle in because it is built on the feeling of belonging, trust, compassion, empathy and the acceptance of a flaws. May be this couple isn't there yet because they had just about only begun to build that home in each other but she already had a rightful reason to want to leave that 'home'-- "jis ghar me mere Baba aur unki seekh ki Baar Baar beizzati ho, uss ghar me main nahi reh sakti..." Why would I even want to live inside you when you don't accept me being the way it is...

And today, it was this very man who wanted to "come back home" to her -- Why then should you wander so far away to the point of no return?

"Kya agar Kisi se galati ho jaaye toh usse maafi Nahi milni Chahiye?"

It is true. Forgiveness is the only way to go forward and spouses are often called to forgive one another after a sincere apology. Yet forgiveness is only actually a chance and not an eraser -- the scar cannot be wiped out. The visible marks of the physical force used on her wrist will fade away soon but for Sai's memory to push this incident into the compartment of "long forgotten" memories, Virat will have to put in a lot of hard work -- not just at being 'sober when angry' but also filling their combined memory bank with the good memories.

Sai's "Aapse Galti Nahi huyi Hai, Aapne apna asli roop dikhaya Jo koi insaan Nahin dikhana Chahta lekin Apne gusse mein chhupa Nahi paata... Aur wo roop iss dikhawati roop se bohat alag aur daravna hai..." is the voice of every one of us watching the episodes since last week.

It cannot be discounted that Sai's dialogues were far more powerful than that of a woman wanting to forgive -- she did not seem convinced with the apology at all but rather more taken aback and touched that he was not using the suspected words to describe his feelings for her.

In all honesty, no apology actually matters-- because it would hold no meaning unless followed up with the action that has been promised -- "Aisa dobara kabhi nahi Hoga..." But, I also want to see the apology from the other side. Two wrongs don't make a right. One apology does not clean the slate for a fresh start because the hurt was mutual although one crossed a bigger no-go line than the other.

The incident has created a distance between them and caused a dent to the intimacy they were beginning to forge.. it was visible in the hesitation of the moment - more Sai but it was also because although Virat said he was apologetic and 'sharminda', her lack of spelling out the "maafi" that he wanted was making him impatient again. It almost felt like if the demand for apology was not met with, he would actually go on another rant about pyaar Nahi Karti 🙄 Was the 'cold' feeling because of the 'mistrust' that Sai was trying to convey and leaving him upset even though "sharminda" because he began with "Saari Galti meri hai" but did go into "tumhe sirf meri Galti dikh rahi hai" 🙄😑


>>> He seemed desperate in that situation, didn't know what to do, just didn't want her to go. That's what it came across as. He did not start with an apology but a question, the apology came into the picture when she said that "Main ghar chod ke jaa rahi hoon".

If I have to give our Viru boy benefit of doubt here, then it could be one thing he has never ever pacified anyone till this point. His last apology to her (during the DIG case) was because she saved his ass (gratitude) and when she pointed out he gets angry he had a point blank answer. Well now the things have changed, he needs to learn how to calm down his angry wife (new for him ). He could not do it even that day when she got upset after the trip fiasco. Its only after the Mother son convo, Aai's Godu has realized that getting angry would not help. Had that conversation would not have been in picture then this would have been a blown up argument too. (thanks to small mercies).


But the stand on the apology has to be consistent or she would really wheel the bag out of the room -- bag Ladakh nahi Gaya toh Gadchiroli toh jaa sakta hai...

I don't think Sai Joshi accepted Virat's apology. Sai Joshi spoke about the 'galti' that Aaba would never make -- never give her so much takleef. Sai Joshi wants corrective action, reform of the Galti by seeking a promise that "no one" will be denied food again or be treated against the values of 'insaaf and aadar'.


>>> Apology has not been accepted yet, there is something which he has said and it better has a good meaning to it than only feeding her food. He has said, give me a chance let me make this right. Now since he has said it, he might as well do something about it. We all know basis the precap on Saturday Vahini is supposed to enter the room. Will he draw the line and tell her to be a friend (as that's what she is) and respect their privacy. And also claim Saibai to be his wife in front of her. Well that would restore the honor she lost during the trip fiasco.

But the apology was definitely accepted by the 'wounded wife' even though none of the wounds were examined. Before Virat, in his moment of madness, pumped bullets into her pride and self respect, it was the wife in Sai that was cross. The 'wife' was actually placated with three sentences he spoke, accompanied by the tears, joining hands or the verbal sorry:

"Tumhara sach aur Mera sach alag ho Sakte Hain... main ye toh samajh Gaya hoon ki main tumhare liye mayne Nahi rakhta... Par tum mere liye bohat mayne rakhti ho..."

She was taken aback, it was an answer to her "Aapke pass Dil hai? Aur wo mere baare me sochta hai? ( But didn't you say you pledged your heart to someone else? So how me?)" She was not expecting him to say that -- still a jalebi but a sentence moving towards the point that should be made because mayne replaced the word "zimmedari and farz" for the first time. In translation it is, "You matter to me/You hold value" --but in literal sense - "you are the intention on my mind, my means to find the end".

Still in the phase of hesitation and wading out of a fight where each of them needs to acknowledge their own emotions -- it was at least the base for setting up the interactions to "let's give this feeling a chance"...

That followed by the "Main waqt bitana chahta tha tumhare Saath..." twice -- wahan bhi aur aaj bhi, she was taken aback but she joined the two dots and if there are was any doubt about the expression of interest, there came the third: "Mujhe apna parivaar samjho, mujhe dushman mat samjho apna... I am your family."

Family, in what relationship?

Now, this was a moment that could have ended in an embrace between a husband and wife that would have melted any part of the ice glaciers floating between them but how many more steps before they become 'husband and wife' in verbal acknowledgment to remove the awkwardness and pull each other in an embrace?


>>> Like you mentioned they do have awkwardness and it is going to take a lot of effort from Virat to remove it, lets see how he does it. Its a slow journey and is beautifully presented.


What stopped them was definitely the 'gaanth' that has just been added to their already entangled rope.

It will loosen only when she tells him that his sach and hers are different too -- he may think he doesn't have 'maayne' in her eyes but the truth is that she did not know where would she head even if she were to wheel that bag out of the mansion... There is no denying: Sai has moved out of her Aaba's world into his. It wouldn't be easy to leave him.

So this is a convenient game of tennis -- with all her spashthly asked questions and the revelation made in view of the family, one would think it was the best opportunity to address the issue of the 'vaada, Dil and Didi' but no -- it moves to the maayne match now and the ball is back in Sai's court.

So until she tells him he holds maayne, he won't tell her, 'mujhe apni family Nahi, Pati samjho' 🙄😑

And of course like women are blamed for using tears as a weapon to bring men to their knees, men most certainly use a weapon that works without fail to get the 'wife' to drop everything else aside -- "Aapne Khana Kyun Nahin khaya?" The information that he was also starving was enough to divert her attention ... But the mention of the Didi was not missed and the biggest let down for me was the "usse bhi Jhagda ho Gaya Mera". This was such a put off that I wanted to log out of the video, no kidding. How does his mind process the 'jhagda' with the woman at this point -- she is the root cause of the turmoil of the standing in front of him, who he doesn't want to lose... So subconsciously Shravan Kumar of Chavan niwas will go to make up with the Vedi vahini as well? It just made me feel like we are in square one -- the entire crux of the matter has been ignored.😑😑😑


@ Bold - Dont think Shravan kumar would go and apologize as our Vahini would land up in the room. The only thing I deciphered from that scene was, he was desperate to convince her and did not know how and hence did not want to get into any other discussion which could go hay wire. All he wanted was her to stay (not the apology as well). He knows he is not forgiven yet hence the last line "Mujhe pata tha tum mujhe maaf nahi karogi". Had he not been desperate to stop her, he would not have voiced out many things like "Waqt bitana chahta tha", "Lunch plan kiya tha" etc...

When you fear losing something, thats when you grow desperate to hold on to it. That's what I felt was Virat's situation today.



Waise, just to ask -- does placing a hand on the head make the vaada more unbreakable than just holding out a stretched hand like earlier vaada 🤔? I hope it's not one of the "vaada toh toot jaata hai" type jalebis.


@Bold - Waise thats for the vaada boy to know and we to never find out 😉. Waise ye banda vaada karna kab band karega. I have said this before, just like toffees he distributes vaadas.


I felt that the conversation Ashwini had with Virat the other day missed out on one important sentiment that should have been added when she reminded him about Sai's large heartedness and her faith in him -- she's been at the receiving end of all kinds of humiliation and in that fiasco she was served the ultimate humiliation of 'thinking' that she was his 'wife'. I don't think the idea has registered with the UPSC topper yet despite Sai saying it spashthly twice.

What Virat has done will remain his biggest transgression. It can never be amended and it will always remain etched in Sai's memory and like a scar on her heart, which will sting if and when, God forbid, he does it again. The fact is that this 'khata' cannot be forgotten in one tender moment -- it cannot be brushed under the carpet, especially when this is not even a "marriage" yet between the two souls. Whether this 'connection', affection, attraction will turn into the "marriage of minds" will only decide if they will move ahead from the awkwardness where they stand.

But, accepting the reality is an essential step. Yes, there was a mistake -- it was a huge one. But the acceptance has to be accompanied by the belief that changing it is possible and the resolve that it will not be repeated. Getting in touch with their deepest desires -- to be close to one another and earn each other's respect and agreeing to work toeards the transformation can be the only way forward... Will they untangle the knots to offer and accept the 'whole' of one another?

Because they say, "Jis dhaage mein aayi huyi gaanth khul Sakti ho us par kainchi mat chalao"

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Really didn't understand what was the point of Usha maushi taking by taking the unfinished dinner back to Mohit's room 😣🤯🙄 I guess it was only to give Karishma the cue for announcing Maha shivratri as per Chakram niwas clock.

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How do you forgive someone you love for hurting you in ways you didn't expect? Would a man who loves a woman hurt her pride? Many couples make serious mistakes in their marriage -- some on a daily basis. Some of these hurts are not those that you think you would ever overcome. But a hurt in marriage is like a fracture to a bone. It heals on its own if given the right treatment and rest with appropriate care to ensure that the same injury is not inflicted again.

There can never be any 'punishment' between spouses. If there is, it takes the form of recrimination, resulting in constant reminders of the past offence during future arguments.

Forgiveness is just the beginning of a healing process of the fracture -- it is the cast on the injured bone. Just as physical injuries take time to heal, so do emotional injuries. The desensitising of the wound can take months or years.

Would you give 'love' it's first chance, here?

A mid morning coffee ☕☕☕ or tea 🍵🍵🍵 can certainly help one see 🤗🤗🤗❤️❤️❤️

Have a great day and own your week ahead!

Lots of love

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Good evening Sister, and it was a lovely analysis. While I absolutely liked the episode, your analysis and the parallel drawn was lovely (I have no words actually).


There were moments which were very nicely presented in todays episode. I saw different opinions and different views but I loved it. Be it the body language, scenes all were good and nicely presented I must say. With the emotional tension between them any Romance was out of question (would have loved to see it but it was not the right moment).


There was a post I read, where someone mentioned a hug. How would a girl hug a man who just hurt her a while ago and vice versa. It will take time for that at least. The tension between them was visible, hurt was visible and both of them I think did a good job of putting the point across.

At that moment, it was only about he did not want her leave. And she wanted him know how much he had hurt her.

My comments in Blue 😉


Lets see how the story moves ahead from here on, the relation has changed, the equation has changed. Some facts have been stated, some have been registered. They have spoken something very clearly, she in anger and he in desperation. It was a good scene, well executed and close to reality.


Aaj ka sawal, last week ka precap scene kithe gaya ??? Did the channel decide to edit it or was it the PH. Not that i was keen on watching but phir bhi. Matlab pura hafta ek scene dikha dikha ke paka diya phir gayab. I wonder why 😕

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Originally posted by: I-Am-SherLOCKED

Janki!!!! 🤗

I love the way you've said, "Sai Joshi hasn't accepted his apology." I have been fuming since the morning because I thought Sai melted too easily but your words have given me a new perspective. What made Sai give in so easily? Emotional exhaustion, actually acknowledging that he was sorry or just fear of losing one of the only people she'd begun considering as her own since her Aaba? Last week, she was angry with everyone in that house but she felt betrayed by Virat, she never would've thought that he would treat her this way. Maybe she just let this matter slide for now because as courageous and strong as she is, she needed to have Virat in her corner? The mild affection she feels for him overpowered all the hurt he caused.

I think it's a bit of all. When I saw the scene my first impression was that -- it wasn't Sai Joshi who was melting. It was the wife. She in her alone moment had already acknowledged she spoke hurtful things to him in her rage. Yes, he ended up crossing the line but the fact is that Sai was wrong too and in a match like that husband and wife don't stop. No one does.

She does not know if she can stay without Virat. She has not been able to answer that question when she was asked on a couple of occasions. They don't have a wholly spousal (conjugal) relationship yet but it is also a fact that when you cohabit with someone, who has shown care and is well meaning, you tend to forge a bond. It's not easy to part ways, especially when someone's asking for one chance to rectify what went wrong. If it turns into a pattern, of course, one must leave.


I have never been in a romantic relationship so I don't know how the forgiveness-repentance cycle works but for somebody like Sai, who has such a strong sense of right and wrong and is more often than not is an excellent judge of character, I am surprised she didn't see how he was trying to squeeze forgiveness out of her. More than being sorry, he seemed embarrassed because how could self-proclaimed ladkiyon ki izzat karne wala do such a ghastly thing? It was less about the pain he caused her and more about him, which left me so annoyed.

Anyone who's been in a romantic relationship with a largely well meaning person --male or female -- would tell you that they have let a few transgressions pass by. No human is perfect and yes, there are moments in anger when we show that side of us that we'd never know we could --- it could happen to the best of us when rage overpowers all feeling and all you want is to establish control and one-upmanship... He was sorry. I won't say his sorry was fake. He was genuinely ashamed of the bruises he saw on her hand but yes, his insecurity has not been addressed. He gave her time to reply to 'main tumhara kaun lagta hoon' but she didn't and there was a moment of indignation... There was also a moment when he wanted her to stop reminding him of the shameful act because he wanted to explain why he was angry -- I found it annoying too as a viewer but in desperation, the ones who have made an error want that immediate closure because the bigger task was to stop her from leaving. And he knew he couldn't have used anymore physical expression -- holding hand or grabbing shoulders -- no. So words in desperation would sound desperate...


If Virat was truly sorry, he would've let her be for sometime, apologized obviously, but Sai needed time to reflect on and process everything that went down that day. In a span of few hours, she dealt with character assassination, verbal abuses and even physical abuse. She didn't get the required time to think about all that. It was purely her adrenaline which kept her going and at the first sight of some solace in the form of Ashwini and Mohit, she broke down, revealing how the day's ordeal had broken her. I doubt even the writers put in so much thought to this but I think it was highly opportunistic of Virat to approach her at a time where she was her weakest- both emotionally and physically. She just didn't have the energy anymore.

I agree it was too rushed but I would blame it on the hurry to end the scene. I wish they had given it time to develop into an apology. I didn't feel like mentioning all the food or the candy floss because it seemed too rushed but that's more to do with moving ahead to the next track in the show than Virat or Sai...

I think her dialogues were very strong even in this scene. They weren't mushy, assuring or heart melting. She is skeptical, hurt and still has unresolved issues as Sai Joshi but she's definitely a 'wife' now and she's conceded this one for Virat's goodness that she still believes in. It's one chance.


Sai is never going to forget this day obviously but Virat's vada seems to be as khokli as his other vadas. If Kusum Dola is to be believed, he is going to kick her out of the house for the Devyani and Pulkit fiasco. Even if Sai found it in her heart to forgive Virat this time or even just 'let it go' because he shed copious tears, if Virat actually ends up kicking her out, that will be one time too many.

Since we know the story that is coming, yes, I agree but then I would like the track to unfold because for me, his biggest error as a human is what he did last week. I said already, I wouldn't even hold him asking her to go as that big a mistake as what he did on 'Sunday'... Also because I am not sure I'd completely agree with the way Sai goes about uniting Devyani and Pulkit given the legal aspects of her mental state... So let's see what they serve😆

Edited by jankiraghav - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukri

Great Analysis Janki wrt two type of knots.

We all have said something to our spouses in anger, have apologized and moved on from that argument. But there are always 1-2 incident, though we think are resolved are never truly resolved, are etched in our memory, sitting there in darkest place. They make a comeback at our worst fight in future again and again, when even something remotely similar to that happens. Only difference being most of our fights are in private vs Sairat who have fought in public with full view of family.

Bilkul sahi kaha. Almost every couple has the darkest place between where things that have been done or said remains- and almost everyone resorts to bringing them up in ugly arguments. Private fights are always okay but it is the public humiliation that really damages the relationship and creates a 'knot'.


The episode is incomplete due to Sai not talking about her behavior after hearing Virat's reasons for his outburst.


1. Pakhi not being addressed clearly by Virat even after Sai's outburst twice in two days. He felt the need to apologize and clarify with Pakhi immediately. But why not the same urgency with Sai?

That's why his "usse bhi jhagda ho gaya mera" was such a put off. I actually got pretty tuned out after that because I was also in a hurry today... It was so unnecessary and the fact that even in that kind of a moment he says something like that means subconsciously he's still wanting a patch up with that vile vahini of his? 🤔


2. Trip thing is not yet resolved, its going to make an appearance in a bigger way soon. Everyone makes her feel like a namesake wife of Virat. He by his attitude today proved it to everyone. How will Virat resolve this?

Her feeling of namesake wife and his feeling of having "no maayne" are going to remain like the biggest ball of ego betweent them -- how will they address this, really? But his "I am your family" comes from his feeling that she doesn't consider him her husband and her silence on his question comes from her feeling that he only wants to be "family" and not the husband. So basically ringa ringa roses and back to the first square...


3. Will they talk about Sai outing the Pakhi-Virat past and Kaku's plan in open? Will she apologize for saying things out in open? Why is Virat not bothered about it? Its as if he has accepted Pakhi as a permanent fixture in his marriage.

Again that @bold is the question that will be addressed from here on because that is the only part of this story that is "new" and untold before 😆 I swear if he goes and says sorry for the "jhagda", I will stop watching the show 😆

4. Taking away Money was not addressed. They discussed food, but not money, is it because she will get scholarship money soon.

I think she will get her scholarship in "two days" but they are moving to March for Shivratri so god knows!? 🤔 Will they address it over that take away meal tomorrow?


Regarding on your question on does placing a hand on the head make the vaada more unbreakable -- It is like a superstition, like saying tumhari kasam I will never do it again. Many people believe if you break such a promise, then the person on whose head the promise is made comes to some harm. Usually if Leads make such promise , they are meant to keep it, so unlike Vaada Boy's other vaadas, I truly think he will uphold it.

I was asking sarcastically 😆😆 ki first time he stretched his hand and gave the vaada to we-know-who but this time he kept his hand on her head and made the vaada. Whenever he's made vaadas to Sai, he has generally held her hand or placed his hand on her head. Waise, his vaada of "maan aur izzat jiski haqdaar ho, main doonga" was almost broken on 'Sunday'. 🤔

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