Elliot Page Comes Out as Transgender in Heartfelt Letter - Page 3

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sharpener


What does it mean by identifying as a 'man'? Like the physiological aspects of a man?


It means feeling masculine, thinking like a man etc.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: snatch

why didnt she continue as a lesbian ? her career in cinema is over. not because people will discriminate but what role will she be offered ?

anyway her life she knows the dilemma better

*he/them .. use the right pronouns that’s the least we can do to make a safe space for trans people and also they already have a role in the umbrella academy ..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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You're confusing her with Ellen DeGeneres. That one's the lesbian. This is Elliot Page who was Ellen Page before.

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i thought maybe shes(he now) attracted to women sex so she (he now) could have continued as a lesbian instead of openly saying shes a transman.. but then again its too complicated...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahisa22


It means feeling masculine, thinking like a man etc.


What does masculine or thinking like a man mean?


Also, just because someone identifies as something doesnt mean they actually are like that? For example, if I identify as a black woman, does that mean people should address me as a black woman? 😕

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sharpener


What does masculine or thinking like a man mean?


Also, just because someone identifies as something doesnt mean they actually are like that? For example, if I identify as a black woman, does that mean people should address me as a black woman? 😕


It's dressing like a man externally and having the feeling of being "male". They don't feel like a woman, that's it.


Race is different. It's a genealogical thing, you cannot "feel" that you're Black.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahisa22


It's dressing like a man externally and having the feeling of being "male". They don't feel like a woman, that's it.


Race is different. It's a genealogical thing, you cannot "feel" that you're Black.


Race is physiological and so is sex and gender is based on sex so how can one identify, or rather ask other people to refer to them as something that they are not?


Like I totally understand people who are born transexual but how is Ellen page asking people to refer to her as a man if she is still a woman? Medically if she were to come to me as a patient, I would still consider her a female right?

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Originally posted by: Sharpener


Race is physiological and so is sex and gender is based on sex so how can one identify, or rather ask other people to refer to them as something that they are not?


Like I totally understand people who are born transexual but how is Ellen page asking people to refer to her as a man if she is still a woman? Medically if she were to come to me as a patient, I would still consider her a female right?

The mannerisms of man and a woman are different. There is a difference in how men and women perceive things. Normally, a person born female would 'feel like a female, her thoughts and mannerisms would be in alignment with her assigned gender. Same goes for a man.


But in some cases, a person might be born male but would talk and have the body mannerisms of a female, or vice versa. Such people are transgenders. Those who feel that they are physically of one gender but their brain is wired like the opposite gender.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahisa22

The mannerisms of man and a woman are different. There is a difference in how men and women perceive things. Normally, a person born female would 'feel like a female, her thoughts and mannerisms would be in alignment with her assigned gender. Same goes for a man.


But in some cases, a person might be born male but would talk and have the body mannerisms of a female, or vice versa. Such people are transgenders. Those who feel that they are physically of one gender but their brain is wired like the opposite gender.


So I'm brown right but I grew up among white and black people. So can I identify as black or white and ask people to refer to me as black or white because just because I have their mannerisms?


If someone is actually born transexual/intersex or got surgery then I totally understand and all my love and respect to them ❤️ But what's with Ellen Page asking people to refer to her as him just because she doesnt identify as a woman anymore?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sharpener


So I'm brown right but I grew up among white and black people. So can I identify as black or white and ask people to refer to me as black or white because just because I have their mannerisms?


If someone is actually born transexual/intersex or got surgery then I totally understand and all my love and respect to them ❤️ But what's with Ellen Page asking people to refer to her as him just because she doesnt identify as a woman anymore?


Race and gender are fundamentally different. You cannot claim yourself as a black woman because you have not lived their experiences. You don't really know what it is like to be a Black person, or White for that matter. Gender, however, comes from inside you. You 'feel' what it's like to be of the opposite gender.

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