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Posted: 4 years ago
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In hospitality most of the openings in senior positions are through reference only. The more powerful and influential your references are more chances are your job selection. Hardwork and knowledge does not have much value. It is same for all the biggest chains in India. In many hotels sexual favors irrespective of genders for promotions is way too common. This industry along with aviation and tourism is way to filthy. After working in hospitality nothing shocks me.

Nepotism is way to common in every industry. I have seen and met kids of corporate biggies. They are introduced to the big names at quite young age. Grooming begins during teens. IB schools become the future corporate group which is quite closed to average middle class person.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sev.puri

The prevalence of it is a lot more in Bollywood vs the average industry. You’re not going to get too many nepo engineers, doctors, accountants etc because no matter how much money you throw at the kid, if they can’t pass the exams, they’ll never be good enough and sustain in those fields.

But what's the qualifying exam for a film role? Nobody knows. Sometimes it's the directors who picks his actors, sometimes main lead actors like Ark and Aamir who select the side characters and sometimes it's the producers. Theres's no way of knowing why one gets selected in a film. Movies are very subjective art.

I guess the only qualifying factor would be the audience love and the film working or not.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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no its exist in every industry, asia or europe or USA

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Posted: 4 years ago
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But in Hollywood only a 20% are nepotism products, people don't care about their families and Major actors are outsiders. South india industry is worst than bollywood 98% of actors are nepo products and part of the same family 🤢 why no one talk about it?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The only insider i always liked from HW is Drew ❤️ Nicolas Cage boring me to the core and his off screen personality is very cringe 🤢 if he wasn't a Coppola he would never be there.

Edited by Dirdam - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Equine

But what's the qualifying exam for a film role? Nobody knows. Sometimes it's the directors who picks his actors, sometimes main lead actors like Ark and Aamir who select the side characters and sometimes it's the producers. Theres's no way of knowing why one gets selected in a film. Movies are very subjective art.

I guess the only qualifying factor would be the audience love and the film working or not.

@bold - the sad part is even this qualification is never used as a benchmark. How many movies and years of opportunities were people like Uday Chopra given? In the pharmaceutical industry here, you have only 3 chances to sit the exam and get qualified as a pharmacist or you are barred from attempting that exam ever again for the rest of your life (the 4 years you studied and got a masters graduate degree now mean nothing no matter which top institute you studied at)


I’m obviously aware that in this day and age both across private and public sectors and all industries, “references” go a long way. I’ve seen people leave companies and poach staff to come along with them. But it’s pretty disheartening that in this day and age from some of the comments on this topic that big companies still don’t have proper HR practices in place. Everywhere i’ve worked so far, the entire job application system is anonymised to minimise bias. You can’t look at a “Vigneshkumar” and say “must be Indian, won’t give him the job”. Up until the interview, all you know is that person is candidate # 47483. A company I worked for went the extra mile and if you ticked the disability box, they guarantee you an interview no matter your application.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Those are very few examples. 😆 There r many nepokids in Hollywood.


Nepotism exists in every field everywhere be it movies, sports, politics, corporate world etc.

Gandhi's,Thackeray's, Yadav's, Abdullah's, Chirag son of Late Ramvilas Paswan so many in politics.Amit Shah's nephew Jay Shah is BCCI secretary.

Kannada industry : Dr Raj Kumar's kids, V Ravichandran

Malayalam : Fahaad, Pritviraj,Keerthy Suresh, Dulquer r nepokids

Tamil:Dhanush, Karthi, Suriya, Vijay, Vishal, Jayam Ravi, Jiva r nepokids.

Telegu industry there are many third generation of families r involved in movies.

These were just few of them I have mentioned. There r many nepokids in these industries.


It's hard to get rid of nepotism bcoz today's outsiders will be tomorrow's nepokids launchers.

Edited by raj80 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dirdam

But in Hollywood only a 20% are nepotism products, people don't care about their families and Major actors are outsiders. South india industry is worst than bollywood 98% of actors are nepo products and part of the same family 🤢 why no one talk about it?


I'm sure it is more than 20%. But there are so many celebrities that it gets lost. Also a large portion of Indians are not familiar with old Hollywood because they used to not release as many Hollywood films in India. Plus outsiders with merit do get recognition.


Robert Downey -> Robert Downey Jr.

James Brolin -> Josh Brolin

Michael Sheen - > Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez

Tom Hanks - > Colin Hanks

Denzel Washington - > John David Washington

Henry Fonda -> Jane Fonda, Peter Fonda

Melanie Griffith - > Dakota Johnson

Goldie Hawn - > Kate Hudson

Francis Ford Coppola - > Sofia Coppola

Jerry Stiller - > Ben Stiller

Donald Sutherland - > Keifer Sutherland

Jon Voigt - > Angelia Jolie

Kirk Douglas - > Michael Douglas

Will Smith - > Jaden & Willow Smith

Clint Eastwood - > Scott Eastwood

Debbie Reynolds - > Carrie Fisher - > Billie Lourde

Judy Garland - > Liza Minelli

Susan Sarandon - > Eva Amurri

Eric Roberts - > Emma Roberts

Stellan Skarsgard -> Alexander Skarsgard

Brendan Gleeson - > Domhall Gleeson

Quincy Jones - > Rashida Jones

Jayne Mansfield - > Mariska Hargitay

Ron Howard - > Bryce Dallas Howard

Bruce Dern - > Laura Dern

Tony Curtis - > Jamie Lee Curtis

John Aniston -> Jennifer Aniston


Most top stars in Hollywood have some connection - either a former actor or writers, editors, producers, or another minor role in the film making process. A lot of the Italian filmmakers were particular about keeping the business within the close circles. The McCarthy era red scare and inquisitions also led to the entertainment industry becoming insulated against outsiders.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Just out of curiosity...how is spending your own hard earned money on your kids not ethical or virtous....and here I am talking about just YOUR OWN money....not talking about a company where others are shareholders...not talking about a govt job...not talking about harassing or bullying someone...not talking about anything where someone else's money or Govt's money is involved.


If you subscribe to the philosophy that people should earn their livelihood, the most capable person deserves to move ahead, and no one should be handed anything; then handing wealth and career to kids on a silver platter becomes unethical.

On the other hand, there is the notion that if a person works hard for something then they have the right to spend it how they choose. But if you subscribe to this it puts handing things to kids in the murky grey area.

Being virtuous is displaying moral excellence. Giving money to support those in need would be a virtue. Taking money from those in need would be a vice or evil. Raising a kid who is virtuous would be virtuous. Giving your kids your own money is neutral at best.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades


I'm sure it is more than 20%. But there are so many celebrities that it gets lost. Also a large portion of Indians are not familiar with old Hollywood because they used to not release as many Hollywood films in India. Plus outsiders with merit do get recognition.


Robert Downey -> Robert Downey Jr.

James Brolin -> Josh Brolin

Michael Sheen - > Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez

Tom Hanks - > Colin Hanks

Denzel Washington - > John David Washington

Henry Fonda -> Jane Fonda, Peter Fonda

Melanie Griffith - > Dakota Johnson

Goldie Hawn - > Kate Hudson

Francis Ford Coppola - > Sofia Coppola

Jerry Stiller - > Ben Stiller

Donald Sutherland - > Keifer Sutherland

Jon Voigt - > Angelia Jolie

Kirk Douglas - > Michael Douglas

Will Smith - > Jaden & Willow Smith

Clint Eastwood - > Scott Eastwood

Debbie Reynolds - > Carrie Fisher - > Billie Lourde

Judy Garland - > Liza Minelli

Susan Sarandon - > Eva Amurri

Eric Roberts - > Emma Roberts

Stellan Skarsgard -> Alexander Skarsgard

Brendan Gleeson - > Domhall Gleeson

Quincy Jones - > Rashida Jones

Jayne Mansfield - > Mariska Hargitay

Ron Howard - > Bryce Dallas Howard

Bruce Dern - > Laura Dern

Tony Curtis - > Jamie Lee Curtis

John Aniston -> Jennifer Aniston


Most top stars in Hollywood have some connection - either a former actor or writers, editors, producers, or another minor role in the film making process. A lot of the Italian filmmakers were particular about keeping the business within the close circles. The McCarthy era red scare and inquisitions also led to the entertainment industry becoming insulated against outsiders.

And how many of them are really stars? Robert downey jr, Michael Douglas, Charlie Sheen (before his scandals), Fonda,Drew,Angelina,Jennifer,JL Curtis...and stop counting. Avengers (the biggest saga of the story at least at the box office) has only one nepokid as lead actor,that says a lot. In bollywood or in SI all would be nepotism products.

Edited by Dirdam - 4 years ago

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