Is Nepotism only in Bollywood?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Nepokids in other industries?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Nepo kids are everywhere.. Even outside movie industry.

Scions of business houses - in every country in every industry of every size

Scions of political dynasties

Why else would Lalu's sons have clout in Bihar

How else did Shatru's son Luv Sinha get a ticket to contest assembly elections in Bihar.. He is a flop actor - nepo kid in that too

Seen lot of 'son shine' in Karnataka politics. The same is visible in other states and at the national level - no one is exempt from this malaise

I was against nepotism in Bollywood at one time...have realised that it is the way of life everywhere. A lot of managers in MNCs too prefer to hire people from their caste or hometown - not nepotism but unfair to others nevertheless

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Is casting couch only in Bollywood?

Is corruption only in our government?

Are cases of rape and sexual harassment only in India?

Even if you think that nothing is wrong with nepotism, you can't use this "it's everywhere" logic to defend it to those who consider it wrong.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Not defending anything. The TM asked where else can one spot nepo kids and I answered where I could spot them. I have never asked anyone what to feel. I wrote what I felt. If people see my observations as preaching then so be it. I will continue to write what I feel. I have clearly written in the last line that preferential treatment is unfair to others. My post was last edited minutes before the next post was made

I am not grovelling in front of anyone to adhere to my POV. I just state what I feel. People needn't get worked up if I find it tolerable because I see it as a way of life. Nepotism exhibited by owners of private organisations isn't a crime. I am not defending any crime here. I find it intolerable only when practiced in government companies and people who haven't put their money at stake. I am not proselytising here.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Veni-Vidi-Vici

Not defending anything. The TM asked where else can one spot nepo kids and I answered where I could spot them. I have never asked anyone what to feel. I wrote what I felt. If people see my observations as preaching then so be it. I will continue to write what I feel. I have clearly written in the last line that preferential treatment is unfair to others. My post was last edited minutes before the next post was made

I am not grovelling in front of anyone to adhere to my POV. I just state what I feel. People needn't get worked up if I find it tolerable because I see it as a way of life. Nepotism exhibited by owners of private organisations isn't a crime. I am not defending any crime here. I find it intolerable only when practiced in government companies and people who haven't put their money at stake. I am not proselytising here.

Kyun thak rahi ho? I wasn't taking a dig at you. I was calling out TM for stirring shit.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Logic of some people. Casting couch, rape and corruption are clear cut crimes. Nepotism practised by Karan Johar while casting for movies in his production house isn't. If one can find the relevant section in the Indian Penal Code to prosecute him then please feel free to do so.


I am not a fan of nepotism. I have just made peace with it. It can be challenged in a court of law only in certain circumstances and in certain organisations. I don't find it legally wrong - morally yes. If people feel otherwise then they can take actions to remedy the situation. I am not a Bollywood lover. I have clearly stated elsewhere that I view them negatively. I am not their apologist. At the end of it it is just my opinion. I used to cry and crib a lot about nepotism in Bollywood but I have learnt to relax. If someone else wants to take to activism - it is a free country.. To each his own.

P. S Don't take anything personally. If you weren't trying to offend me then let us extend an olive branch 😊

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The prevalence of it is a lot more in Bollywood vs the average industry. You’re not going to get too many nepo engineers, doctors, accountants etc because no matter how much money you throw at the kid, if they can’t pass the exams, they’ll never be good enough and sustain in those fields.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Veni-Vidi-Vici

Logic of some people. Casting couch, rape and corruption are clear cut crimes. Nepotism practised by Karan Johar while casting for movies in his production house isn't. If one can find the relevant section in the Indian Penal Code to prosecute him then please feel free to do so.


I am not a fan of nepotism. I have just made peace with it. It can be challenged in a court of law only in certain circumstances and in certain organisations. I don't find it legally wrong - morally yes. If people feel otherwise then they can take actions to remedy the situation. I am not a Bollywood lover. I have clearly stated elsewhere that I view them negatively. I am not their apologist. At the end of it it is just my opinion. I used to cry and crib a lot about nepotism in Bollywood but I have learnt to relax. If someone else wants to take to activism - it is a free country.. To each his own.

P. S Don't take anything personally. If you weren't trying to offend me then let us extend an olive branch 😊

Okay, I'm seriously not understanding you. First you said you're not defending nepotism and then you go on defending it in both of your comments. You call out my logic, indirectly take digs at me, and then you ask me to not take offense from your comments. Sorry, that's not gonna happen.

I wasn't talking to you in the first place. What's your problem? If you draw the line where it's legal or illegal, then good for you. But many nepo-apologists here don't. Few days ago itself the same people who defend nepotism were also defending drug use on this forum, which is also illegal. So they definitely don't care about what's legal or illegal.

Marital rape and homosexuality were also illegal a few years ago in India. Women raping men is not even considered a crime. So our law is not perfect. Never was and never will be.

As for me, I don't have much problem with nepotism and I wasn't calling it out on this thread. I was calling out "it's everywhere" logic which is often used to defend it. If you want to defend nepotism, then do it properly.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sev.puri

The prevalence of it is a lot more in Bollywood vs the average industry. You’re not going to get too many nepo engineers, doctors, accountants etc because no matter how much money you throw at the kid, if they can’t pass the exams, they’ll never be good enough and sustain in those fields.

Not arguing or countering you. I find nepotism bad too. The problem with nepotism in Bollywood is that there is no qualifying benchmark.. And yes engineers and doctors have to earn their qualifications. Kids of doctors aren't placed on a pedestal in med school. It is just very few engineers get to run the family business, some CA's get into family firm.. Some doctor kids run the hospitals their parents set up.. The percentage is very miniscule (and more so when compared to what is happening in Bollywood). I get the difference, they have earned the basic qualifications and got the rest as virasat which isn't the case for Bollywood insiders. Audience is helpless as one can't say bosses of PH where to put their money. Maybe shareholders of corporate production houses can but then unlisted companies will have insiders as shareholders. The listed ones like balaji, Pritish Nandy's company has general public as minority shareholders. They can make some noise and put moral pressure if they want to..but minority shareholders can't take activism beyond much limits. Shareholders of listed distribution companies can also try something like that but they can't dictate business decisions.. Even if they do, a small section of shareholders can't dictate things which can potentially affect the bottomline of the company. Activists will be told to shut up and their limited knowledge of the working of the industry and profitability will work against them... I don't see any legal measures to tackle this. Hence I have given up and made peace

Solid jalta hai mera when I have to work hard and others got good jobs very easily 😆.

.Didn't mean to quote but I realised that I had opened the quote window a bit too late, so went to the top of the post and added a few lines.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Harley_Quinn

Okay, I'm seriously not understanding you. First you said you're not defending nepotism and then you go on defending it in both of your comments. You call out my logic, indirectly take digs at me, and then you ask me to not take offense from your comments. Sorry, that's not gonna happen.

I wasn't talking to you in the first place. What's your problem? If you draw the line where it's legal or illegal, then good for you. But many nepo-apologists here don't. Few days ago itself the same people who defend nepotism were also defending drug use on this forum, which is also illegal. So they definitely don't care about what's legal or illegal.

Marital rape and homosexuality were also illegal a few years ago in India. Women raping men is not even considered a crime. So our law is not perfect. Never was and never will be.

As for me, I don't have much problem with nepotism and I wasn't calling it out on this thread. I was calling out "it's everywhere" logic which is often used to defend it. If you want to defend nepotism, then do it properly.

I saw your second post only after posting mine

. Hence just wrote a post script without deleting what I wrote first. I did not mean to offend you.

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