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Originally posted by: sarasingh7
This is from approximately more than a month or 2 back. These are pictures that Vikas singh also spoke about , pictures taken by Meetu. Looking at these pics - Dr Gupta said it was 200% murder. [Previous pics released were to hide those clear injury marks]
I wish family would have filed original case with 302 itself , i think those picture were give away this couldn't be suicide , Maybe they knew Rhea herself didn't kill sushant directly but was involved in conspiracy n thought she could be convicted this way but then must have charged her in involvement of conspiracy of murder filing 302.
Body was with family in funeral and as seen from Funeral video - Sushant face was visible , they could have seen his body as well or no ? Injury would say it all
The family were not forensic experts. We don't know how far into the investigation they spoke to Dr. Sudhir Gupta. The fact that Meetu took those pictures and gave them to Vikas Singh says a lot about their effort to get to the truth.
I think Bollywood realizes they are on the verge of bankruptcy. Thus they are making money off Sushant even though they have left no stone unturned in maligning his grieving family. Broken every moral code ever written.
https://twitter.com/binitak51708357/status/1316427694616186880?s=20
Originally posted by: sarasingh7
EDIT - Reached 15 post limit so Replying here
I think it is becoming more about other people - No Dr. Swamy/Ishkaran or no Vibhor or Smita Parik are bigger than Truth. At the end we need to remember it is about Sushant and Disha's Justice - In that context every question needs to be asked.
@Bold - That is correct. Meetu took the pictures n gave it to vikas singh which were submitted to AIIMs or forensic expert of agencies. Family might not be in position at that point of time to even contemplate - I have heard they got body directly from crematory - now it is to be seen whether they performed rituals ( I m not sure about hindu rituals -whether body is given bath or not - in sikhism - body is given bath) , if male member performed such ritual then they can easily see injury marks n usually could there be other people helping in ritual other than family ? If they did then injury marks should be red flags right away - as ambulance driver say those needle marks were very visible . Or I suspect as shown in funeral , they already prepared body in hospital for funeral process, bz in video only his face was visible.
Agreed the truth overpowers everything but since we are fighting for the truth as a team it is important to put your trust in the right people to help guide you or work with you. Just like before you hire someone for a job (as most workplaces require teamwork) it is essential to do some basic background research. Vibhor has a really shady past and trust what he stated the minute he planted himself in this case could have easily divided up the entire team. Like I have said before divided we fall united we stand. The way he was maligning a grieving family should have given everyone red flags. I did my homework on Dr. Swamy before placing my trust on him and condemned his controversial statement like on the religious freedom bill at its rhetoric towards Muslims. But his background shows he fights for what he believes is right with bravery and that show integrity. He could have gotten killed himself in the 70s for standing up for Sikhs. STILL I don't believe him blindly. Again I don't have malice towards anyone on this thread. I invited everyone here because i have observed you guys and your comments show passion for the truth. Nor do I have a time for a debate.
Again the body in the videos was completely wrapped with a white quilt and only Sushant's face was visible. Again a grieving family has the job of deciphering whether it is suicide or murder? That responsibility is with the Mumbai police and clearly they did not do it with integrity. When the family regained it is conscious from overwhelming grief, they saw the Mumbai police was not doing its job which everyone in their right mind could already see. Then they started taking action to get the investigation on the right track. Again injury marks ? People who commit suicide very often harm themselves too. Meetu Di is neither a forensic expert. Nor has she prob seen multiple people commit suicide to have studied enough to know what marks from suicide look like and how they differ from murder. That was not suppose to be her responsibility anyway. Which is why most countries hand over that responsibility to the authorities and most people trust them. It wasn't her fault Mumbai police ran a sham investigation and the family was too busy grieving to question them for a while.
Again people made accusations at me as I could see loopholes in the narrative bollywood was selling along with Mumbai police. But I have read the facts for 100s of murder cases and have been trained to tell when the facts just don't add up. But people on the bollywood forum would call me a conspiracy theorist for questioning the narrative Mumbai police was sellling. No doubt they wouldn't have done the same to the family. Peace! I have no ill intent towards you. I understand we both are trying to get to the truth but just have different perspectives on the approach. I hope nothing I say offends you.
Originally posted by: grumpydwarf
Agreed the truth overpowers everything but since we are fighting for the truth as a team it is important to put your trust in the right people to help guide you or work with you. Just like before you hire someone for a job (as most workplaces require teamwork) it is essential to do some basic background research. Vibhor has a really shady past and trust what he stated the minute he planted himself in this case could have easily divided up the entire team. Like I have said before divided we fall united we stand. The way he was maligning a grieving family should have given everyone red flags. I did my homework on Dr. Swamy before placing my trust on him and condemned his controversial statement like on the religious freedom bill at its rhetoric towards Muslims. But his background shows he fights for what he believes is right with bravery and that show integrity. He could have gotten killed himself in the 70s for standing up for Sikhs. STILL I don't believe him blindly. Again I don't have malice towards anyone on this thread. I invited everyone here because i have observed you guys and your comments show passion for the truth. Nor do I have a time for a debate.
Again the body in the videos was completely wrapped with a white quilt and only Sushant's face was visible. Again a grieving family has the job of deciphering whether it is suicide or murder? That responsibility is with the Mumbai police and clearly they did not do it with integrity. When the family regained it is conscious from overwhelming grief, they saw the Mumbai police was not doing its job which everyone in their right mind could already see. Then they started taking action to get the investigation on the right track. Again injury marks ? People who commit suicide very often harm themselves too. Meetu Di is neither a forensic expert. Nor has she prob seen multiple people commit suicide to have studied enough to know what marks from suicide look like and how they differ from murder. That was not suppose to be her responsibility anyway. Which is why most countries hand over that responsibility to the authorities and most people trust them. It wasn't her fault Mumbai police ran a sham investigation and the family was too busy grieving to question them for a while.
Again people made accusations at me as I could see loopholes in the narrative bollywood was selling along with Mumbai police. But I have read the facts for 100s of murder cases and have been trained to tell when the facts just don't add up. But people on the bollywood forum would call me a conspiracy theorist for questioning the narrative Mumbai police was sellling. No doubt they wouldn't have done the same to the family. Peace! I have no ill intent towards you. I understand we both are trying to get to the truth but just have different perspectives on the approach. I hope nothing I say offends you.
Not at all , our goal is same Justice. I agree anything that divides SSRians is not good. I agree on part ,even if there was information, Vibhor's blatant revelation blaming member of family is doing more harm to the movement. In worst scenario ,where he is saying Meetu knew abt minor girl , I still fell , she must have been totally trapped n threatened , otherwise why would she willingly let all that happen.One never knows person with kid n family could be blackmailed convivently.
I have put everyone on radar now , I don't want to trust anyone blindly , and I believe we all should ask questions if there is doubt. Things will change as more information surface, some of it would be misleading , some would be truth - this is long battle but one things that remain constant is our Urge to get Justice for both Disha n Sushant. One thing is also certain that they were killed and it's big Racket they were trying to expose or got in middle of and this Mafia will try their best to avoid getting them exposed.🤢
Abt Dr.Swamy I follow him from quite over few years , he visited Sanjose Gurudwara some time back n as video was posted abt it , I wanted to understand his views on 84 where he indeed was against Congress n with Sikhs , His 70's emergency stories speaks of bravery and I respect him for that. I was with him till AIIMs report got tampered or leaked. He is close to Dr. Sudhir Gupta , he was one who got him in Sunanda Pushkar case , but I saw pattern there and In Sushant's case too, so my faith dwindled , Similarly with Vibhor , Idk what he get out of openly calling out member of family, it doesn't help the cause as I see but it might be that he has inside information ,where it is seen some people are taking advantage of Sushant't movement to help themselves like Niloptal (the way he deleted his account is weird, If I m honest i would answer n confront person) ,Smita n others. So it is hard to trust anyone but I somehow found loopholes in June 8th to June 13th happenings n hence analyzing chronologically what could have transpired from all angles.
And about BW forums , don't even bother, we know most are defending their favorites without any logic n ofcourse we are aware of Bollywood n it's dirt now.
Hi Sara,
I just wanted to quickly say I respect your views but Dr. Sudhir Gupta was assigned to head the CBI AIIMs forensic team. I don't think Dr. Swamy assigned him with that job. He does not head CBI or AIIMs. But again truth overrides everything and lets not put blind trust in anyone.
But I personally don't trust Vibhor at all. It was not just Meetu Di him saying that Priyanka is the only real sister and the other sisters are step sister that is why Rhea is only targeting Priyanka. He was implying many things about the family there. He also indirectly shading Sushant's dad saying he has been married three times. Indirectly maligning the entire family.
Going back to Vishal Bhaiya's point maligning a grieving family is preventing the plaintiff from their right to justice. I agree Sushant deserves justice above all. But the family that lost the most is rightly a plaintiff in this case in their own right as well. I don't think he came into this case with the right intentions.
But you can disagree and I have no qualms about you voicing your opinions here. Same goes for Anjs. I dont want to inhibit anyone from sharing their thoughts as that is just not ok.
Originally posted by: grumpydwarf
Hi Sara,
I just wanted to quickly say I respect your views but Dr. Sudhir Gupta was assigned to head the CBI AIIMs forensic team. I don't think Dr. Swamy assigned him with that job. He does not head CBI or AIIMs. But again truth overrides everything and lets not put blind trust in everything.
But I personally don't trust Vibhor at all. It was not just Meetu Di him saying that Priyanka is the only real sister and the other sisters are step sister that is why Rhea is only targeting Priyanka. He was implying many things about the family there. He also indirectly shaded Sushant's dad saying he has been married three times. Indirectly maligning the entire family.
Going back to Vishal Bhaiya's point maligning a grieving family is preventing the plaintiff from their right to justice. I agree Sushant deserves justice above all. But the family that lost the most is rightly a plaintiff in this case in their own right as well. I don't think he came into this case with the right intentions.
But you can disagree and I have no qualms about you voicing your opinions here. Same goes for Anjs. I dont want to inhibit anyone from sharing their thoughts as that is just not ok.
I think we are going back n forth. But no worries, I appreciate you putting forth your viewpoint n i respect that.
Now Dr. Swamy has lot of say n connections, he is also member of some medical committee , if one look into Sunanda pushkar case, he was in touch with Dr Gupta , even when Dr. Gupta came on board in SSR case, he was seen saying he know him well n Dr. Gupta is very honest n all.
As we are talking now, I forgot to mention earlier clean chit he gave to AU which was quite surprising given how kinda open it is now that AU is involved somewhere. Dr. Swamy was significant for this movement , he wrote letters to PMO , HMO for ED n agencies n due to his push it helped get these agencies on board along with public pressure. But he is Politician - he has an agenda - to expose UNWorld link which is even better but also for his other political benefit as I feel - i don't blame him for his ambitions - atleast he is not getting someone killed but if it hinder justice n look suspicious somewhere in way of justice - question should be raised - we have discussed this topic lot of times though.
And Abt Vibhor he has said lot of explosive stuff including step sister theory which might be wrong - it doesn't make sense as Shweta is in middle of Priyanka n Sushant , so how can Shweta be his step sister - I also felt he was drunk during live , there is no guarantee, what he said is 100% right , they all have some agenda deep down - they all might want justice but with some benefits of their own too, but some of his points made sense.
Anyways we shouldn't make it abt Dr. Swamy or Vibhor - Let's all agree to disagree on certain things will all due respect , we all surely agree on one thing - reiterating Justice Sushant n Disha, so its' all good 👍🏼
He said based on his believes he does not think AU's son is involved but that might be why he is objecting. This was back when he was still in the process of convincing AU to hand over the case to the CBI. Back when Mumbai still had the jurisdiction. After the family filed a FIR in Bihar. Bihar also gained jurisdiction. Thus he went to go talk to Nitish Kumar instead of truing to convince UT. He did say if all else fails I will go to court. People who are more known have far more at stake and would be extra cautious. Especially seeing how riled up India is about this case they would throw eggs at his face if he did something wrong and he would lose his entire life's worth of reputation. Vibhor does not have a good reputation to begin with so what does he have to lose?
Also Dr. Sudhir Gupta did find poison in Sunanda Pushkar's stomach which was crucial in the case I believe. Ishkaran was the lawyer fighting it, I think or he was heavily involved. Dr. Swamy is his boss. That might be why he trusted him.
Again you don't have to trust Dr. Swamy. I don't trust Vibhor! (Once again he has an extremely shady past unlike Dr. Swamy or Ishkaran). Agree to disagree it is! Peace!