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Posted: 4 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Sunita1986

EK tried to show the entire 9 years journey of S1 in just two years wid S2 and tracks were combined along wid introducing new tracks but the idea backfired which ruined everything.

I think the initial idea was to show the story of two half brothers falling in love wid the same girl. One being a boy who has had a secured childhood n had everything served on a platter and the other being a man who had a troubled childhood n had to snatch things which were not destined for him. Also gradually show how the boy ruins his life n himself in love versus a ruthless bad guy who redeems himself falling for the same girl. She was successful until the end of Bajaj phase1 but ruined it wid ML track which not required, she could've gotten them married but I guess she didn't want that to happen hence the ML track was introduced. is that really what she was planning? all though i don't like that RB be related to the Basu's 😒but that would have made for a far more interesting show than what we got. it would explain RB's mysterious background (which she never revealed 😔) & enmity towards Moloy, that she hinted at. plus i think KSG & Parth would have killed it in any sibling rivalry scenes...i mean their tashan filled ones were fire 😳 i doubt the CV's would have been able to handle that as well as a love story, they can only do 1 story at a time i mean they rushed the PreRish marriage & ruined that so...😒

Imo this track was handled vey poorly, may be bcoz it was planned at the very last minute. She had a good opportunity to introduce Sonalika as a fresh positive character in Anurag's life, which was missing this season, instead she brought Komo disguised as Sona. Also if that was what they wanted to do they could've built some mystery around Sona n kept it hidden for the viewers as well but Alas. the ML track was probably the weakest one they had. NOTHING HAPPENED, it was the same repeat over & over again. Sono/Komo trying to kill Prerna in a zillion pathetic ways & Prerna threatningto reveal/kill her only to have ML herself during the next attempt 🤪then the 2 weeks they spent on that kidnapping thing which also turned out as 'phuski' 😆. i agree that if she introduced Sonalika as postive, then maybe later gradually revealed she was Komo, it would have added much needed drama & shock value.

The future tracks of a show depend on how you handle an ongoing track n the mishandling of this track led to the bridge kand. Just bcoz some actress tweeted about dreaming Anu killing Prerna 😂 EK jumped on the idea which in turn killed the show n ended up butchering every single character. lol i remember that tweet, was she who inspired the track or just promoting it 🤔 there were a million different ways she could have separated the 2 that would have made far more sense. the quick reveal & justification of Anu's majhboori killed the suspense & the track IMO, it only attracted sympathy for him & her revenge took a back seat 🤔

I think they changed the end just before the shoots post lockdown but rushed up with it as Parth wanted to quit. i agree, i think she had other plans for after but Parth quitting meant she couldn't afford to take the risk with another replacement, add to that the crappy ratings, meant she had to shut shop. from what i understand Parth wouldn't have done the show for more than 2 years, in that case she should have planned everything earlier for a nice crisp ending or continuation without him. but to be fair some things like Covid were out of her hand & must have derailed her plans so she did what she could.

See no actor would like join a show as a replacement just before it's about to go off-air. And why would EK take the pains of replacing her lead when she had decided to pull the show off air in the next two months, probably that's the reason why we saw what we saw in the last two weeks. I can go on n on but I'll just leave it here. the ending could have been handled far better than it actually was 😒, they spent too long stretching out unnecessary scenes cough*freezer cpr*cough 😏. she should have wrapped up AnuPre's misunderstandings earlier & given them the grand, social wedding that they had been attempting throughout the show, it would have been a satisfying ending to their struggles.

Ps: these r my personal views n u're free to disagree. i agree with most 👍🏼

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jasminerahul

i also heard the remour of rajeev quitting kth bcz of butchering sujal.but i wonder what track they planned.i think even after rajeev left they didnt show the track they planned.bcz even after rajeev got replaced sujal wasnt butchered.the only thing people hated was his one night stand with charu in drunken state though after marriage n using gayatri to make kashish realize her love.but these things happened much later.mostly people bashed only kashish in kth forum


As far.as.i remember , she planned a track where sujal rapes kashishs sister to get back to her or something . Which rajeev protested.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jasminerahul

in kzk2 bajaj had only a small daughter



That was innovative, given in season 1 Bajaj was alive till he was around 100 years old 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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to get back to whom?because that time sk were together n charu akshat were a couple.even after Rajeev got replaced they didn't show any rape track.I doubt whether it's true.bcz that time rape used to happen in most of the balaji shows but rapists even if they were the husbands were punished very badly.so why should they make a lead like sujal a rapist?I think there may be some other reason.


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As far.as.i remember , she planned a track where sujal rapes kashishs sister to get back to her or something . Which rajeev protested.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jasminerahul

i also heard the remour of rajeev quitting kth bcz of butchering sujal.but i wonder what track they planned.i think even after rajeev left they didnt show the track they planned.bcz even after rajeev got replaced sujal wasnt butchered.the only thing people hated was his one night stand with charu in drunken state though after marriage n using gayatri to make kashish realize her love.but these things happened much later.mostly people bashed only kashish in kth forum



So, the track was planned like this, Sujal gets to know the truth that Kashish betrayed him, thus he gets to know about Kashish's real intentions and then he goes on and rapes Charu (Kashih's sister) to put kashish back in her place.


So after reading that regressive and mindless track, Rajeev protested, his point was Sujal never loved any other woman other than Kashish, his obsession was beyond any explanation, his character was someone who would love kashish regardless what she did with him, so how on earth can this man turn into a chauvinist overnight and rape kashish's sister whom he has loved as his own sister? This was not only regressive but sick too as Sujal and Charu's bond was always shown to be that of a brother and sister, infact Sujal loved Kashish's all the sisters and supported them when Kashish was helpless, be it Mauli's singing career or Mehak's marriage with Varun. After building up Sujal's character to be someone selfless and strong, Ekta wanted to turn him into a loser who would molest a woman. Sujal would die but never disrespect any woman, the basic trait of his character was that every women deserves respect, be it his mother or even his fiancee Archie, he always was honest with Archie about never wanting to be with her, so how did this sudden rape event make any sense?


Ekta was desperate to show a kashish-Sujal separation, so she plans Sujal raping Charu, kashish marrying Swayam (Sujal's half brother) and that would be kashish's 3rd marriage .


Rajeev was adamant that he will not play Sujal if this regressive Charu angle is introduced, Ekta argue, channel wanted Rajeev to stay, Ekta wanted her ego to win, so Rajeev quits, new plastic surgery guy enters and the Ekta fulfilled her dream of showing Sujal and Charu ONS and later on Sujal-Charu marriage and Kashish marrying some two more men.Thank God Rajeev left, because he kept Sujal alive and he did not let Sujal get ruined, fans still think Sujal died at 355th episode, imagining him as a molester or betrayer was just too gross given the buildup of his character as a lover boy was beautiful, nobody can love a woman the way Sujal loved kashish. Recently Rajeev said in an interview that playing Sujal was something else, he can still feel that a man like sujal is hard to find, being too invested in a woman, kon karta hai aisa 😆


https://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/it-rape-turned-sujal

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jasminerahul

to get back to whom?because that time sk were together n charu akshat were a couple.even after Rajeev got replaced they didn't show any rape track.I doubt whether it's true.bcz that time rape used to happen in most of the balaji shows but rapists even if they were the husbands were punished very badly.so why should they make a lead like sujal a rapist?I think there may be some other reason.



Kashish betrays Sujal, she married him to take revenge as her idiocy made her believe that Sujal killed her spineless husband piyush. So ekta planned that Sujal will learn about this betrayal and he will be so heartbroken that he will be drunk and molest charu so that kashish understands the pain of betrayal. LMAO 🤣

Rape was shown in all ekta shows, kahani, kasauti 1 and even kaisa ye pyaar hai, kutumb. In both Kaisa ye pyaar hai and kutmb, Angad molests kripa and pratham molests gauri respectively, in Kyuki Ansh raped nandini, in KZK sharad raped mukti, rape was ekta's gross formula to get TRPs, so she could not see why Sujal would be different. I am just glad Raj left, I cannot imagine the horror of seeing Rajeev's sujal sleeping with Charu, i do not care what the plastic sujal did, he was Tushar anyways.

Edited by DexterRocks - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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ekta is obsessed with separating her couples .but for that how can they make the hero a rapist when all balaji shows of that time showed rapists as the biggest villains? why didn't they make sujal a rapist after bringing a new sujal?sujal was nice till the end.kashish was always bashed till the end for taking advantage of sujal's good nature for her sisters.actually in the memory loss track too sujal fell in love with kashish.but kashish made him marry charu.after he gained his memory once when he was drunk he got intimate with charu.probably they wanted to show that sujal assumed charu to be kashish n had one night stand with her.


Originally posted by: DexterRocks


So, the track was planned like this, Sujal gets to know the truth that Kashish betrayed him, thus he gets to know about Kashish's real intentions and then he goes on and rapes Charu (Kashih's sister) to put kashish back in her place.


So after reading that regressive and mindless track, Rajeev protested, his point was Sujal never loved any other woman other than Kashish, his obsession was beyond any explanation, his character was someone who would love kashish regardless what she did with him, so how on earth can this man turn into a chauvinist overnight and rape kashish's sister whom he has loved as his own sister? This was not only regressive but sick too as Sujal and Charu's bond was always shown to be that of a brother and sister, infact Sujal loved Kashish's all the sisters and supported them when Kashish was helpless, be it Mauli's singing career or Mehak's marriage with Varun. After building up Sujal's character to be someone selfless and strong, Ekta wanted to turn him into a loser who would molest a woman. Sujal would die but never disrespect any woman, the basic trait of his character was that every women deserves respect, be it his mother or even his fiancee Archie, he always was honest with Archie about never wanting to be with her, so how did this sudden rape event make any sense?


Ekta was desperate to show a kashish-Sujal separation, so she plans Sujal raping Charu, kashish marrying Swayam (Sujal's half brother) and that would be kashish's 3rd marriage .


Rajeev was adamant that he will not play Sujal if this regressive Charu angle is introduced, Ekta argue, channel wanted Rajeev to stay, Ekta wanted her ego to win, so Rajeev quits, new plastic surgery guy enters and the Ekta fulfilled her dream of showing Sujal and Charu ONS and later on Sujal-Charu marriage and Kashish marrying some two more men.Thank God Rajeev left, because he kept Sujal alive and he did not let Sujal get ruined, fans still think Sujal died at 355th episode, imagining him as a molester or betrayer was just too gross given the buildup of his character as a lover boy was beautiful, nobody can love a woman the way Sujal loved kashish. Recently Rajeev said in an interview that playing Sujal was something else, he can still feel that a man like sujal is hard to find, being too invested in a woman, kon karta hai aisa 😆


https://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/it-rape-turned-sujal

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jasminerahul

ekta is obsessed with separating her couples .but for that how can they make the hero a rapist when all balaji shows of that time showed rapists as the biggest villains? why didn't they make sujal a rapist after bringing a new sujal?sujal was nice till the end.kashish was always bashed till the end for taking advantage of sujal's good nature for her sisters.actually in the memory loss track too sujal fell in love with kashish.but kashish made him marry charu.after he gained his memory once when he was drunk he got intimate with charu.probably they wanted to show that sujal assumed charu to be kashish n had one night stand with her.


The negotiations with Rajeev was still going on and the rape track was dismissed, however Ekta wanted Sujal-Charu to happen, she wanted Sujal to be with Charu once Kashish married swayam, Rajeev was firm that Sujal's character is not someone who will have ONS or any kind of physical intimacy with kashish's sister. After that Ekta said that 'Rajeev was too demanding about his track, he cannot change creative decisions'. Since he could not change creative decisions, he quit and lateron a new guy was introduced.


The new plastic sujal was a last minute plan, so once he was introduced they repeated every scene of Rajeev's sujal in this new plastic guy to build up Sujal-Kashish aura and they failed.


Angad and Pratham never got punished, they were male leads and they MOLESTED female leads.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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in kyph n kutumb angad n pratham did not rape kripa n gauri.when they lied that they are sterile to fix them they pushed them to the bed n behaved as if they are trying to rape them.but they did not rape them.they left the girls before that itself.it's in kdmh that ejaz's character raped the heroine.but even though he was redeemed he was killed in the show aa a punishment.i wonder why then only in kth alone they decided to butcher the hero by making him a pure rapist


Originally posted by: DexterRocks


Kashish betrays Sujal, she married him to take revenge as her idiocy made her believe that Sujal killed her spineless husband piyush. So ekta planned that Sujal will learn about this betrayal and he will be so heartbroken that he will be drunk and molest charu so that kashish understands the pain of betrayal. LMAO 🤣

Rape was shown in all ekta shows, kahani, kasauti 1 and even kaisa ye pyaar hai, kutumb. In both Kaisa ye pyaar hai and kutmb, Angad molests kripa and pratham molests gauri respectively, in Kyuki Ansh raped nandini, in KZK sharad raped mukti, rape was ekta's gross formula to get TRPs, so she could not see why Sujal would be different. I am just glad Raj left, I cannot imagine the horror of seeing Rajeev's sujal sleeping with Charu, i do not care what the plastic sujal did, he was Tushar anyways.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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those times all ekta heroes had multiple marriages n one night stands.the other production houses too showed the same disgusting stuff.thankfully that trend has changed.but I feel that even if they hadn't butchered sujal Rajeev would have left after some time as he prefers to be in finite series.he quit left right left also even before RN love story flourished. it was very sad.now he is doing lovely webseries which is his cup of tea



Originally posted by: DexterRocks

The negotiations with Rajeev was still going on and the rape track was dismissed, however Ekta wanted Sujal-Charu to happen, she wanted Sujal to be with Charu once Kashish married swayam, Rajeev was firm that Sujal's character is not someone who will have ONS or any kind of physical intimacy with kashish's sister. After that Ekta said that 'Rajeev was too demanding about his track, he cannot change creative decisions'. Since he could not change creative decisions, he quit and lateron a new guy was introduced.


The new plastic sujal was a last minute plan, so once he was introduced they repeated every scene of Rajeev's sujal in this new plastic guy to build up Sujal-Kashish aura and they failed.


Angad and Pratham never got punished, they were male leads and they MOLESTED female leads.

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