What went wrong with EK's plan - A Case study - Page 7

I just say & believe that....

That that

Geneartion has evolved ppl dnt no more like devdas sad ending type stories..

All want to see leads fight back ...

They want leads happy lucky lovey dovey together..

Ek zamana tha jahaan novels padaa karthe the.

Abbb zamana aisa hai log webseries dekthe hai...

Ek zamana tha kitabeian, depth sadness alag hoke, doosrein relationship maein rehke affiars, love tadap aise kahaniya pasand karthe the...

Abb zamana aisa hai subah se shaam tak office pe kaaam, shaam ko thoda time ghar pe tv on, agar uss waqt par rona dhona dekhenge tho raat bhi kharab hojayega...

Ppl have evoloved but ekta dint evolve

Originally posted by: jasminerahul

if you notice not only kzk almost every couple in ekta shows are separated.they are together only for sometime n mostly they are separated. anupre1 got the name of star crosses lovers ink because the ending was tragic where as in other ekta shows thoughthe couples are separated always in the end they united.kzk1 ending was not re planned.that time even ekta had not planned to make it a star crossed lovers story.it was a sudden decision to end it like that.kzk1was never promoted as star crossed lovers story where as kzk 2 was promoted as star crossed lovers story only bcz it was the reboot of kzk1.even kzk1 anupre were not that mature.as my post wasn't about anything apart from KZK2 i won't comment on her other shows. KZK2 was sold on the theme of lovers who won't be able to unite, rail ki patri, star-crossed etc so the ending doesn't fit in that regard is all I'm saying.

compared to kzk1 there was more understanding among anupre1.cannot say that there was no trust between anupre2. anupre always trusted each other except the Times anurag married kamo n pushed prerna off the bridge.anyone will lose trust in that person n that's what prerna also did.but there was miscommunication because of stupidity.if they had shared the problems with each other they could have fought against all the odds together. i personally, never saw any trust between them. even Anu initially mistrusted Pre when she married RB even though he had just done the same thing, literally few episodes ago. (this is what i meant about making them stupid)

in every serial except kumkum n geet couples had lack of communication. I don't understand why in all other tv shows there is always lack of communication n hiding between couples.

ekta wanted to correct mistakes means. ..during s1 many people could not ask why anupre were termed as soulmates. because anupre always misunderstood each other..prerna kept slapping anurag n anurag married thrice to other women for stupid reasons.anupre had physical relationship with others. Sneha was rejected by anurag n she was known as bajaj's daughter though anupre fans never wanted this to happen. prerna loved bajaj too n was living happily with him.suddenly she became happy to unite with anurag in heaven.so most of the people could not understand how and why anupre were known as soulmates. i agree the ending didn't make that much sense to me as AnuPre weren't shown as this epic couple. infact no anupre fan liked the death of anupre in the ending. not every fan can be happy all the time, I'm sure they didn't like it when Pre chose RB either. she did whatever she thought was best for the show or what she liked. ekta wanted to correct all these mistakes in this season.through out s2 anupre fans bashed ekta after the last episode they thanked ekta only because she corrected the above mistakes. Star-crossed & soulmates are different concepts. star-crossed are those that can't be together but love for each other never leaves their heart. that doesn't mean they can't move on & love others, each love is unique & different. we hold so many different peoples love in our hearts.

soulmates is more of a subjective concept. it can be a couple who toils hard day & night to create heaven on earth for themselves or a couple who understands & is able to communicate without words. it's really up to us how we see it. she tried to fit in both at the same time, jammed it down out throats that they are literally made for each other but are star-crossed if they're made for each other then they would have absolute trust in each other & therefore would fight harder to face the Kasauti's but they brought them on themselves they weren't star-crossed because they united in the end. all I'm saying is i don't think the audience would have been ready for the concept because to stick with her theme one should have died. not all endings have to be happy. shows are limited to ratings & acceptance of audience at any given time. this seriously hampens story telling.

nearly most of all fans were happy it was ending, a testament to the atrocity that was KZK2. i myself didn't really care about the ending, wasn't that invested in the show to be honest.

Originally posted by: Peacefulmind

I just say & believe that....

That that

Geneartion has evolved ppl dnt no more like devdas sad ending type stories..

All want to see leads fight back ...

They want leads happy lucky lovey dovey together.. getting togther for 3 days then separating for 3 years isn't my idea of happiness. shows have more sadness than happiness, fact.

Ek zamana tha jahaan novels padaa karthe the. people still read & love watching shows & movies based on them.

Abbb zamana aisa hai log webseries dekthe hai... it gives people the option too watch different things & remember it's only people who are tech savvy that watch& navigate these sites.

Ek zamana tha kitabeian, depth sadness alag hoke, doosrein relationship maein rehke affiars, love tadap aise kahaniya pasand karthe the... there's still a big market for that. evidence is in the 'million' of shows on ITV that show continuous separation of leads but audience laps it up so haven't evolved that much 😳affairs? nowadays the ML leaves the FL & gets ready to marry another without divorcing the first... that is classed as an affair if not then don't know what is why is it classed as an affair if a woman does it but not a man?

plus you mean change not evolve. the regressive content being shown doesn't fit in the modern times. but it obviously caters to some audience & the ones that don't find it appealing simply look elsewhere. there's so many options available today compared to KZK1 times. so no zabardasti.

Abb zamana aisa hai subah se shaam tak office pe kaaam, shaam ko thoda time ghar pe tv on, agar uss waqt par rona dhona dekhenge tho raat bhi kharab hojayega...exactly people will watch anything for a little bit of entertainment & with the variety available simply change the channel. KZK2 was depressing & negative hence why it shut shop earlier. like you said kaam se ah kar who wants to watch that 😆

Ppl have evoloved but ekta dint evolve it's true EK's shows haven't changed but aren't some of hers really successful. & they all follow same routine, misogynistic ML, humiliating FL, marriying FL then getting ready 2 marry another, constant separating... not exactly cheerful is it

Originally posted by: oa2019

I think the concept of star-crossed lovers is a little hard to sell to the audience of ITV. Star- crossed lovers try with all there might to be together but can't for some external/internal influence that won't allow them to be. in s1 AnuPre didn't really fit that bill, they did up until they actually got togther. they had their shot but through their own misunderstandings, couldn't make it work. i think if they hadn't have gotten married & just kept trying, like they did for the rest of the show, then yes they could have been described as SC lovers. otherwise, they were like any other couple who got together but couldn't make it work (some people stay friendly with their exes, & yes, i realise they were more then friends 😑).

in s2 AnuPre seemed to fit the concept of SC lovers a little better except for the fact that it was their own stupidity that caused the kausauti's in the first place. i mean it was jammed down our throats that they were SOULMATES yet had nothing believable to support that. no trust, respect or communication. for a divinely blessed couple, who's supposedly made for each other, EK should have given them something which made the audience believe all that 🙄

i clearly remember EK saying before KZK started that AnuPre are 'rail patri kind of love' i.e. they'll love each other but NEVER meet. Barring the atrocious execution of the concept, AnuPre's fans started trending & creating noise of WeWantAnuPre...i mean did they not understand the concept 🤔 if you watch a show knowing you are going to get soo invested in the couple that you forget or blatantly ignore the CONCEPT... don't watch 😒 it's not that hard!

to cater & keep this fd satiated & still entice the other, EK lost the plot...literally she should have gone with one couple & one definitive plot, come what may. nowadays there's too much emphasis on the lead couple rather than the story, result everyone suffers, audience & show's quality 🤔

p.s the ending nullified the concept that EK was trying to show, star-crossed lovers don't get together at the end & live happily ever after like a domesticated couple, because otherwise they wouldn't be called star-crossed 🙄

Summed.up.in one line..."kzk2 lacked SOUL"

Originally posted by: oa2019

I think the concept of star-crossed lovers is a little hard to sell to the audience of ITV. Star- crossed lovers try with all there might to be together but can't for some external/internal influence that won't allow them to be. in s1 AnuPre didn't really fit that bill, they did up until they actually got togther. they had their shot but through their own misunderstandings, couldn't make it work. i think if they hadn't have gotten married & just kept trying, like they did for the rest of the show, then yes they could have been described as SC lovers. otherwise, they were like any other couple who got together but couldn't make it work (some people stay friendly with their exes, & yes, i realise they were more then friends 😑).

in s2 AnuPre seemed to fit the concept of SC lovers a little better except for the fact that it was their own stupidity that caused the kausauti's in the first place. i mean it was jammed down our throats that they were SOULMATES yet had nothing believable to support that. no trust, respect or communication. for a divinely blessed couple, who's supposedly made for each other, EK should have given them something which made the audience believe all that 🙄

i clearly remember EK saying before KZK started that AnuPre are 'rail patri kind of love' i.e. they'll love each other but NEVER meet. Barring the atrocious execution of the concept, AnuPre's fans started trending & creating noise of WeWantAnuPre...i mean did they not understand the concept 🤔 if you watch a show knowing you are going to get soo invested in the couple that you forget or blatantly ignore the CONCEPT... don't watch 😒 it's not that hard!

to cater & keep this fd satiated & still entice the other, EK lost the plot...literally she should have gone with one couple & one definitive plot, come what may. nowadays there's too much emphasis on the lead couple rather than the story, result everyone suffers, audience & show's quality 🤔

p.s the ending nullified the concept that EK was trying to show, star-crossed lovers don't get together at the end & live happily ever after like a domesticated couple, because otherwise they wouldn't be called star-crossed 🙄

I think the initial idea was to show the story of two half brothers falling in love wid the same girl. One being a boy who has had a secured childhood n had everything served on a platter and the other being a man who had a troubled childhood n had to snatch things which were not destined for him. Also gradually show how the boy ruins his life n himself in love versus a ruthless bad guy who redeems himself falling for the same girl. She was successful until the end of Bajaj phase1 but ruined it wid ML track which not required, she could've gotten them married but I guess she didn't want that to happen hence the ML track was introduced.

Imo this track was handled vey poorly, may be bcoz it was planned at the very last minute. She had a good opportunity to introduce Sonalika as a fresh positive character in Anurag's life, which was missing this season, instead she brought Komo disguised as Sona. Also if that was what they wanted to do they could've built some mystery around Sona n kept it hidden for the viewers as well but Alas.

The future tracks of a show depend on how you handle an ongoing track n the mishandling of this track led to the bridge kand. Just bcoz some actress tweeted about dreaming Anu killing Prerna 😂 EK jumped on the idea which in turn killed the show n ended up butchering every single character.

I think they changed the end just before the shoots post lockdown but rushed up with it as Parth wanted to quit. See no actor would like join a show as a replacement just before it's about to go off-air. And why would EK take the pains of replacing her lead when she had decided to pull the show off air in the next two months, probably that's the reason why we saw what we saw in the last two weeks. I can go on n on but I'll just leave it here.

Ps: these r my personal views n u're free to disagree.

Originally posted by: jasminerahul

anurag did not hate prerna.Bcz he was sure that like him she also married bajaj out of majboori n kept asking her to leave bajaj😃

With 'Hate' I meant that the initial devastation and disbelief of seeing Prerna marry someone wealthier and an older man who's a father of three children, any sane person would need months to process this type of trauma. 😆

Originally posted by: grace4317

This was same with S2 Pre also.

Btw, thanks for presenting S1 KZK in a different perspective. This helped a lot to understand what EK was trying to do with KZK2 reboot and why what happened with it happened. Had she not try to go for the nostalgia associated with the show, probably she could have run the show in a better way for the last 1year.

She always liked ruining her own shows, even best of her shows has been ruined and butchered. KZK2 was doomed the minute they decided to bring Mr.B immediately post Komolika's exit, there was no flow or connection, it seemed like one 3rd angle took an exit, so we will bring another one, it is okay if Prerna did not marry Naveen babu, we will make her marry Bajaj🤔.

Originally posted by: surbhi1995

Hiiii,

First time I m hearing such beautiful explaination of nuore love from s1.i felt Ekta's love for anupre during promotion launch of kzk 2 with parica.

Ekta was so excited and happy to reincarnation of her fvrt couple.Two people who love eachother immensely but can't be together due to unforeseen circumstances.

I really wanted to see the same pain,agony in anupre this season too.

True that I love anupre .and parica did complete justice to their role.But the way writing was done,the way cvs show anupre IQ level is negative,there was many time when it was hard to accept it.

The only thing I love about anupre despite everything was they both were flawed,selfish,love eachother.But how I wish ekta had shown character progression in them.

About Sujal ,I understand ur point of view.I m sure he must be good.But I can't take the risk of watching ekta show again.ekta can kill any couple for her ego.If she can do this to anupre her fvrt couple in kzk.then I can imagine what she must have done with Sujal and the girl opposite to him.she is sadist I must say.

Thank you, yes season 1 was pretty good, the innocence AnuPre had was something else. This season could have been better, had Ekta not made a 90% remake, the story was almost the same, so I believe nobody would want to watch the same story as we already have the original to watch multiple marriages of AnuPre with others and making kids.

About Sujal, well yes Ekta it is, she definitely ruined this show too, the interesting thing was that while she narrated her regressive track of butchering male lead Sujal to the actor Rajeev, he vehemently went against her decision and in turn told her a good bye and left the show, he was adamant that if he plays sujal then Ekta cannot butcher his character from the initial narration. Oh boy those days Sujal was actually the mammoth character, and Rajeev felt that he will cheat his fans if he still plays the character after the horrible track Ekta and her CVs had planned ahead of Kashish-Sujal's reunion.

However, this show was gold for the first 300 episodes, probably the best love story you might see, and a love story which was from male lead's perspective, because back in 2002-2003 shows were written from female lead's perspective, but this show proved to be otherwise.

@bold: The girl opposite him was Aamna who played komolika in KZK2.

in kzk2 bajaj had only a small daughter

Originally posted by: DexterRocks

With 'Hate' I meant that the initial devastation and disbelief of seeing Prerna marry someone wealthier and an older man who's a father of three children, any sane person would need months to process this type of trauma. 😆

i also heard the remour of rajeev quitting kth bcz of butchering sujal.but i wonder what track they planned.i think even after rajeev left they didnt show the track they planned.bcz even after rajeev got replaced sujal wasnt butchered.the only thing people hated was his one night stand with charu in drunken state though after marriage n using gayatri to make kashish realize her love.but these things happened much later.mostly people bashed only kashish in kth forum

Originally posted by: DexterRocks

Thank you, yes season 1 was pretty good, the innocence AnuPre had was something else. This season could have been better, had Ekta not made a 90% remake, the story was almost the same, so I believe nobody would want to watch the same story as we already have the original to watch multiple marriages of AnuPre with others and making kids.

About Sujal, well yes Ekta it is, she definitely ruined this show too, the interesting thing was that while she narrated her regressive track of butchering male lead Sujal to the actor Rajeev, he vehemently went against her decision and in turn told her a good bye and left the show, he was adamant that if he plays sujal then Ekta cannot butcher his character from the initial narration. Oh boy those days Sujal was actually the mammoth character, and Rajeev felt that he will cheat his fans if he still plays the character after the horrible track Ekta and her CVs had planned ahead of Kashish-Sujal's reunion.

However, this show was gold for the first 300 episodes, probably the best love story you might see, and a love story which was from male lead's perspective, because back in 2002-2003 shows were written from female lead's perspective, but this show proved to be otherwise.

@bold: The girl opposite him was Aamna who played komolika in KZK2.