Anatomy of hate - Page 10

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Franky i don't even have a definition of nepotism😆. For me only talent matters. If one is talented whether insider or outsider doesn't matter to me. If you are talented you deserve all the success. Come out clearly i think of Alia as talented actress yes not great but talented enough hence as per me she deserves her success. Hence i wont put down her success to nepotism. Like i said i don't have definition of nepotism for me Alia or Varun or Tiger or Ranbir or Hrithik are not nepo kids because they have achieved success on the basis of their talent. Audience has gone and watched their movies and given them a thumbs up. So thy deserve their success. They are not nepo kids in my opinion. But i know many will not agree hence i wanted to understand what is this forum's definition of nepotism? Any one having a family member working in Bollywood becomes nepo kid and like in case of Kiara only if you are rich you are still a nepo kid?

We are not the same sis/ bro 😂

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

By your logic Salman is an outsider then . He is no star son. Ajay is also an outsider then. Alia is also an outsider . VD also. Arjun also.

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

I am sorry we are mixing up things here. Niche films don't do wonders at the box office . With a star may be earn a bit more. But its tough.

Commercial movies will always find a bigger audience. You can compare a Soty2 with a Kedarnath coz both had commercial packaging.

I don’t think Kjo or any one deserves hate, but They do need a reality check and be held accountable. truth is that he launched 3 debutants who were all connected to him via family/friends and has played a critical role in shaping their careers. I’d go far to say, all three of them have not displayed talent that is so remarkable, you can forget about how they got their movies.

But, here is my issue with nepotism. Your vested interest in casting your favorite cannot Rather should not be Greater than your vested interest in making a good product. At the end of the day, Kjo or anyone is making a film for public consumption, not for private viewing.

I think the ire we are seeing is people fed up of being robbed of good talent, and content. Ofcourse you do have trolls and sheer stupidity, but I’d think many people are waking up to the fact that what we are served for consumption is carefully curated by some key people in BW.

So while, we can have an intersection where talent meets merit, we have also seen instances in which ‘who’ takes Importance than ‘what’. We saw it in Kalank, the infamous haseena Parker, and so forth.

BW, as an industry, atleast to me, isn’t growing. You don’t have innovation of thought, technology, and increasingly their traditional markets is poached by regional, international films and OTT platforms.

BW, is still stuck copying south films/remakes, adapting books or biopics, basically it’s so risk averse, it functions on copy paste template until something doesn’t work.

Movies like Avengers are raking in $. A Baahubali, despite not being a movie originating from BW, holds the highest $ made in history. Even in the south, you have innovation of thought... they are making movies like Super Delux, or getting 350 crores for a movie helmed by prabhas, who isn’t even a BWactor. Whereas bramastra is made at what,150 crores?.

I don’t think you can fully say nepotism here, but, i do think when you have gatekeepers who engage in power play, you breed mediocrity, which to me is the antithesis to growth. BW, I would say, needs to chuck away with the elitist mentality, and move forward with promoting talent and ultimately content.

Anatomy of hate. So simple to understand.

It's only and only because of Bollywood Mafia.

Originally posted by: TakingAStand2

I don’t think Kjo or any one deserves hate, but They do need a reality check and be held accountable. truth is that he launched 3 debutants who were all connected to him via family/friends and has played a critical role in shaping their careers. I’d go far to say, all three of them have not displayed talent that is so remarkable, you can forget about how they got their movies.

But, here is my issue with nepotism. Your vested interest in casting your favorite cannot Rather should not be Greater than your vested interest in making a good product. At the end of the day, Kjo or anyone is making a film for public consumption, not for private viewing.

I think the ire we are seeing is people fed up of being robbed of good talent, and content. Ofcourse you do have trolls and sheer stupidity, but I’d think many people are waking up to the fact that what we are served for consumption is carefully curated by some key people in BW.

So while, we can have an intersection where talent meets merit, we have also seen instances in which ‘who’ takes Importance than ‘what’. We saw it in Kalank, the infamous haseena Parker, and so forth.

BW, as an industry, atleast to me, isn’t growing. You don’t have innovation of thought, technology, and increasingly their traditional markets is poached by regional, international films and OTT platforms.

BW, is still stuck copying south films/remakes, adapting books or biopics, basically it’s so risk averse, it functions on copy paste template until something doesn’t work.

Movies like Avengers are raking in $. A Baahubali, despite not being a movie originating from BW, holds the highest $ made in history. Even in the south, you have innovation of thought... they are making movies like Super Delux, or getting 350 crores for a movie helmed by prabhas, who isn’t even a BWactor. Whereas bramastra is made at what,150 crores?.

I don’t think you can fully say nepotism here, but, i do think when you have gatekeepers who engage in power play, you breed mediocrity, which to me is the antithesis to growth. BW, I would say, needs to chuck away with the elitist mentality, and move forward with promoting talent and ultimately content.

How is good product defined? You may think KJO's movies are not good products but when his films become hit then it means majority do think its a good product.

I don't think Salman or even Tiger are great actors and dislike almost all of their movies but then again there are people who like their talent whatever it might be and make their movies hit. No one whether KJO,Alia or any one else can make everyone happy. For every actor there will be detractors thinking they are not good actors. These are just personal opinions, likes and dislikes. At end of the day any actor wants commercial success as long as they get that we cant really say they are untalented.

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

How is good product defined? You may think KJO's movies are not good products but when his films become hit then it means majority do think its a good product.

Dharma doesn’t make good products but we want our faves in them 😂

What nonsensical logic 🤣

Interesting question and answer is simple kjo is easy target 😆 I mean this is happening from years ago but now people are finding problem on it which i glad, "jab jago tab sabera." I agree kjo and every one should get questioned for their toxic working style but why only kjo and his nopo kid is getting hate? Its his money and he has full right to hire whom ever he want, business runs with connection and kjo has that. Many outsiders or insider survive because of connection only. They got movies even after flop because of connection. This is what corruption means and this happens every field and i am not saying just because this happens everywhere we shouldn't call out Bollywood. We should rightfully and this should not stop after mamla tanda hogya but why don't we call out other field too?

World is never a fair place they always doesn't get equal treatment. What alia bhatt has shraddha kapoor doesn't have and what shraddha has many people can't even dream. If we compares one person is always more privilege than other. Why one is getting all the hate and others is not even being questioned? Are we going to question only people who get most privilege and got most successful? I haven't talk about it because i did believe he need to call out for what he did but the hate kjo gets is just too much and now the hate is going over board. Will this only stop when he die? What if something happen to him because of all the hate he is getting? Whom will we going to blame? Sushant ke case me target easy tha kjo but kjo ke case me? Are we also not little bit responsible for sushant case for believing those blind item without proof even after he tries to explain. If kjo is responsible for many working toxic environment and that lead him sushant to depression than we also contribute for believing stupid blind items and bashed him without knowing truth. Call him so many name :(

Edit: just want to add i am not trying to blame anyone but can we not be look what we are doing before blaming others? We like to believe what we want and bashed people without knowing truth. I am guilty myself so i can't blame others if not sushant i believe in others blind item and bashed them too and still i dont know its true or not. Lets just became little responsible before sharing anything to anyone. We dont know what will cause what. Lets check facts before posting or believing something. Media headline is wrost they make those just to catch attention, content kuch aur hi hota hai. and people doesn't even check whole article and start bashing with headline only. I know life me stress bahut hai and sayad bash karke stress kam hota hai but apne stress kam karne ke liye kis aur ke stress ko nahi badna chahiye

Dharma Production is owned by Karan Johar. If any director or producer begs Karan for financing or producing a movie, then Karan has a right to interfare in the star cast. Its his money after all. Sometimes directors will do anything to become a part of Dharma production, so to impress KJO, they replace the outsiders with star kids. If by any chance that movie works with star kids, then the same replaced outsiders would have difficulty in getting roles in big banners opposite big stars.

I really laugh at people who cry before media for not getting roles. Bollywood is not your school play where you got roles by buttering the teacher. It is a place where millions try to make their dreams true. So there would be competition. So do not be such a snowflake. Accept the competition and learn to play the game. Actors star kids or outsiders need to make themselves visible to public mind. Most of the people want to relax with movie and prefare aesthetically pleasing actors. No body wants to see a sad melodrama or extremely serious movie.

The more visible star is more movies he or she will get.

Originally posted by: Chabaret34

oh boo freaking hoo! 😭😭

i know that truth is bitter and facts are very hard to digest for people like you but still hey...this is not a sushant temple where you expect everyone to worship him blindly like....you know who!

so suck it up instead of trying to derail the thread 🥱

This forum could be anything but you are still a coward who created a new id to spew hatred on a deceased soul. You couldn't bring yourself to use your main id. Coz you know how pathetic it is to attack a person who is no more.