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Posted: 5 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: rkisnothot

I saw funny comments about how Dharma makes the big budget films with the glossy or good stories so they can't be skipped. It's a tragedy that outsiders don't get those movies. The whole thing comes down to wanting their favorites to get Dharma movies instead of Alia but they won't honestly just admit it. 😂

Bold-Exactly. May be not all think like that but quiet a few do as is clear from the posts here. They definitely want Dharma to continue making movies, they want KJO to use his connection and his business acumen to make that movie a hit but the cast shouldn't be what KJO wants but what they want.😆
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Posted: 5 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: zoinks

Salman Khan's dad went to one of the Sippys (Big producers from the 80s) to ask him to announce a fake movie starring Salman. It was after Maine Pyaar Kiya and producers were not offering Salman movies thinking romantic heroes had no future. That announcement helped them fool some other producers and Salman started getting offers from the mid level to chote mote producers. Now compare that story with today's story.

FYI that anecdote... Salim Khan himself shared that story.


Interesting...


Something similar happened with Madhuri Dixit. Her “mentor” Subhash Ghai who was a bigwig then, arranged to display her glamour shots on spreads of various glossies with the announcement that this newcomer has several movie projects lined up with all the big shots of the industry, (or something like that). He even named names



Needless to say it worked

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Posted: 5 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: BettyA1


Interesting...


Something similar happened with Madhuri Dixit. Her “mentor” Subhash Ghai who was a bigwig then, arranged to display her glamour shots on spreads of various glossies with the announcement that this newcomer has several movie projects lined up with all the big shots of the industry, (or something like that). He even named names



Needless to say it worked


It seems long done practice 😆 Stealing and what not

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Posted: 5 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche


It seems long done practice 😆 Stealing and what not


I don’t know about stealing... They didn’t snatch offers from others...

More like false advertising

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Posted: 5 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: BettyA1


I don’t know about stealing... They didn’t snatch offers from others...

More like false advertising


We go back far enough Ill find those stories as well 😆


The actor who wanted all his films with just 1 or 2 heroines so he can enjoy the fun in the sun 😆 That guy needs to be stopped first

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Posted: 5 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: coldbrew


I haven't really stayed up to date on all the posts. Obviously that's not happening, he can do what he wills, but I'm not speaking for anyone, just sharing my two bits based on your topic.


To turn the tables though, what do you have to say about those who keep reiterating that a "successful" outcome excuses any wrongs committed to attain it?


And some even go as far as saying that there were no "wrongs" committed at all because, somehow, Machiavellian scheming is the new virtue cuz the end justifies all kinds of means. Sorry, but I'm not sold on that idea at all.

That is a very generic question. But i will still try to answer. Being realistic do i think there can be any successful business man in the world who hasn't committed any wrong to attain the success? Absolutely not. May be only Ratan Tata not even Mukesh Ambani can claim that not even Mark Zuckerberg can claim that not even Bill gates can claim that. Any successful business man would have committed some wrongs to attain it. SO Karan Johar is small fry in front of these i am sure just like all businessmen he would have committed wrongs to attain his success no doubt. Now how much is this justified to be frank there is no answer to this because nothing in the world is black or white infact even in the greatest people your will find black and white in equal shades. Coming to KJO is he a great man i am sure not, he would definitely have had his flaws or his wrong doings as every successful person in this industry does. But is he a demon who has snatched projects from each and every outsider and destroyed their lives. No to that as well. In any case like i said my post was only for the ideology wherein people want to hate on KJO but also want him to invest his own money the way they like it. I am glad we agree he can spend his money where he likes.
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Posted: 5 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: KewlDude

so by your logic, even Salman Khan is not a nepotism kids, because as far as I know, Salim Khan was not a STAR

Franky i don't even have a definition of nepotism😆. For me only talent matters. If one is talented whether insider or outsider doesn't matter to me. If you are talented you deserve all the success. Come out clearly i think of Alia as talented actress yes not great but talented enough hence as per me she deserves her success. Hence i wont put down her success to nepotism. Like i said i don't have definition of nepotism for me Alia or Varun or Tiger or Ranbir or Hrithik are not nepo kids because they have achieved success on the basis of their talent. Audience has gone and watched their movies and given them a thumbs up. So thy deserve their success. They are not nepo kids in my opinion. But i know many will not agree hence i wanted to understand what is this forum's definition of nepotism? Any one having a family member working in Bollywood becomes nepo kid and like in case of Kiara only if you are rich you are still a nepo kid?
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Posted: 5 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

That is a very generic question. But i will still try to answer. Being realistic do i think there can be any successful business man in the world who hasn't committed any wrong to attain the success? Absolutely not. May be only Ratan Tata not even Mukesh Ambani can claim that not even Mark Zuckerberg can claim that not even Bill gates can claim that. Any successful business man would have committed some wrongs to attain it. SO Karan Johar is small fry in front of these i am sure just like all businessmen he would have committed wrongs to attain his success no doubt. Now how much is this justified to be frank there is no answer to this because nothing in the world is black or white infact even in the greatest people your will find black and white in equal shades. Coming to KJO is he a great man i am sure not, he would definitely have had his flaws or his wrong doings as every successful person in this industry does. But is he a demon who has snatched projects from each and every outsider and destroyed their lives. No to that as well. In any case like i said my post was only for the ideology wherein people want to hate on KJO but also want him to invest his own money the way they like it. I am glad we agree he can spend his money where he likes.


I am fully aware that there's nothing black and white about these matters, but if someone comes to me to tell me that the right thing to do is praise or admire whoever is "successful" just because they're "successful", I'm not buying it. I simply don't believe that means justify the end... and those businessmen you've mentioned above have received plenty of public flak too, esp Zuckerberg with the privacy violation among other things. That might fly in India though, with everything being swept under the rug as "chalta hai, hota hai." When they are busted doing the dirty on others, I believe in calling them out on it, so it must all come down to what you personally prioritize in life--and the topic is going off on a different tangent, so coming back to where we started, I don't disagree that KJo can do whatever he wants or go live in Venus if he so desires--it's free will all the way.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#69

My question is that even the producers like KJo who cast nepo kids....would they do a repeat if they thought that the nepo kid is not bringing them returns??

I can understand about parents...like Anil Kapoor spending money on his kids....but why would KJo repeat Chunky's daughter if she was not financially viable for him....its not like KJo or any other producer has unlimited resources...

Similarly some SRK haters keep saying oh Yash Chopra and and this and that gave him movies...thats why he made it....toh SRK se kissne karza khaya hua tha......jo usko movies deta....

Do people not think before saying such things.....tum apna dus dollar bhi kharch karne se pehle sochoge...and the other person will not think about his millions??


also socialism is bad.....in the sense that ...hard worker aur ek lazy loser will benefit the same...aisa kyon??

I did not have a life when I was studying....while some girls were partying...and when we start earning...I am supposed to get the same as those party girls.....what was the use of me studying then...hum bhi party karte...🤣


aur BW se saare nepo kids ko nikaal doh....we will be back to square one....because the outsiders who become successful will do the same things that insiders do...and the failed outsiders...will bash them...😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
#70

Reading the discussions in the thread. Interesting indeed. Different perspective. Please dont mind adding one more. 😆


I am sure first time when someone wrongs somebody, and it goes without protest, or slight protest, but the wrong happens anyway, from 2nd time onwards it's taken as example or reference. Then the wrongs are repeated 3rd, 4th, 5th times, until it becomes the new normal. And then we land in a day where whoever wants the right thing to happen, has to explain in 100 pages why they want what they want.

Ghor Kaliyug.

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