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Posted: 6 years ago
#11

Since there is a question mark across your post, I want to answer it and say

NOT necessarily, see in my view and I have maintained this from the beginning, the buck does not stop with the channel, the quality of the content buck stops with the creator.

The one I will be vary of is not SP about SS...Sandip Sickand, Star gave you money and told you get these trps and you will stay, as a creative person, you need to get creative with your story and with the way you sell your story to the audience and the channel.


End of the day, SP is a business so their motivations are very very clear. I have an issue with the creative team who didn’t trust their creativity and just became stoogies...Sickand knew very well how this works, he has been the show runner for many many Ekta shows, he knows this business. And the way the last weeks track has gone it tells me that Sickand isn’t very mature. The way he has blamed everyone except himself tells me a lot about him. If his work was really qualitative I would stop watching Star, but when the content was getting awful some months ago, he went around on SM blaming the channel so much that forum members also sang the same song. He had the audacity to tell all fandoms increase trp then ronakshi can be saved...no, get us better stories and save ronakshi don’t make us watch shitzzz.

The audience at home- trp audience is smarter, they actually stopped watching when the show went to shitzzzz...the whole marriage track which was apparently brought in to save trps was BS! Attempted rape was the track!!! I mean come on!! That’s not creativity, it’s Laziness!! The creative team lost this show long ago not the channel.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: columbia

Since there is a question mark across your post, I want to answer it and say

NOT necessarily, see in my view and I have maintained this from the beginning, the buck does not stop with the channel, the quality of the content buck stops with the creator.

The one I will be vary of is not SP about SS...Sandip Sickand, Star gave you money and told you get these trps and you will stay, as a creative person, you need to get creative with your story and with the way you sell your story to the audience and the channel.


End of the day, SP is a business so their motivations are very very clear. I have an issue with the creative team who didn’t trust their creativity and just became stoogies...Sickand knew very well how this works, he has been the show runner for many many Ekta shows, he knows this business. And the way the last weeks track has gone it tells me that Sickand isn’t very mature. The way he has blamed everyone except himself tells me a lot about him. If his work was really qualitative I would stop watching Star, but when the content was getting awful some months ago, he went around on SM blaming the channel so much that forum members also sang the same song. He had the audacity to tell all fandoms increase trp then ronakshi can be saved...no, get us better stories and save ronakshi don’t make us watch shitzzz.

The audience at home- trp audience is smarter, they actually stopped watching when the show went to shitzzzz...the whole marriage track which was apparently brought in to save trps was BS! Attempted rape was the track!!! I mean come on!! That’s not creativity, it’s Laziness!! The creative team lost this show long ago not the channel.

would not comment on anything but to clear one thing...the marriage track...the team shot for a promo for which star didn't provided them a budget...the track was supposed to be completely diff...mahesh wasn't supposed to be mixed with the track...raima's track was supposed to end before the wedding day! The channel changed everything...every damn single thing!!! And even after that the script channel provided sanddip to show...if u r gonna hear that na..u will cringe!!!! And since sandiip refused to go to that extent prblms between the channel and sandeep started! And the downfall began!! Sandiip must be at fault at a lot of places...but what channel did with him was horrible!! And this is not the first show on star who is facing this...a lot of them have faced this crap from star!! Currwntly str is busy interferring in yrhpk's script...what happened in KHKT aftrt wedding is what is exactly happening their!


One more thing...coming to profits...KHKT was generating good revenews!! Better than many other shows on the channel...if star thought that it was still less..they could have easily shifted it to another time slot! Try calling star office in UK...those ppl will give a better insight of what is happening!!


Many ppl on twitter have sources in team SOL and in channel too...and those ppl r giving correct info right from the start..so are trustable too!! Pls if possible go through the show's official hashtag u will come to know about a lot of stuff!! Also will get to know about what was originally written..what he wrote for the next 6 months and the script channel provoded! 🙃🙃🙃

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shanayass

would not comment on anything but to clear one thing...the marriage track...the team shot for a promo for which star didn't provided them a budget...the track was supposed to be completely diff...mahesh wasn't supposed to be mixed with the track...raima's track was supposed to end before the wedding day! The channel changed everything...every damn single thing!!! And even after that the script channel provided sanddip to show...if u r gonna hear that na..u will cringe!!!! And since sandiip refused to go to that extent prblms between the channel and sandeep started! And the downfall began!! Sandiip must be at fault at a lot of places...but what channel did with him was horrible!! And this is not the first show on star who is facing this...a lot of them have faced this crap from star!! Currwntly str is busy interferring in yrhpk's script...what happened in KHKT aftrt wedding is what is exactly happening their!


One more thing...coming to profits...KHKT was generating good revenews!! Better than many other shows on the channel...if star thought that it was still less..they could have easily shifted it to another time slot! Try calling star office in UK...those ppl will give a better insight of what is happening!!


Many ppl on twitter have sources in team SOL and in channel too...and those ppl r giving correct info right from the start..so are trustable too!! Pls if possible go through the show's official hashtag u will come to know about a lot of stuff!! Also will get to know about what was originally written..what he wrote for the next 6 months and the script channel provoded! 🙃🙃🙃


Thank you for this info. I am not on SM (thank god! Cannot handle one more aspect to my virtual life). But. if all this is true, I do feel somewhere he needs to accept that he has made mistakes too or be frank and honest about what happened. If it’s true that the he refused to go with the script idea from star, then he should come out and say that publicly. End of the day, intent and motivations is what should help convince us, not blind faith na. To me this information has cemented my thoughts of watching shows with detachment and not get emotionally invested, Humse ache toh trp aunties hai.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: columbia


Thank you for this info. I am not on SM (thank god! Cannot handle one more aspect to my virtual life). But. if all this is true, I do feel somewhere he needs to accept that he has made mistakes too or be frank and honest about what happened. If it’s true that the he refused to go with the script idea from star, then he should come out and say that publicly. End of the day, intent and motivations is what should help convince us, not blind faith na. To me this information has cemented my thoughts of watching shows with detachment and not get emotionally invested, Humse ache toh trp aunties hai.


lol true!!!

But sp is poweful..he won't dare say all this in open!! After all he still has tonwork in the industry! He said in raj's iv that he will come back soon and specially mentioned "on other channel"

Somewhere down the line he has made certain mistakes....but what he faced and suffered was much more worse..which kind of overshadowed his mistakes!! I do have more info...but it would create unnecessary confusions and conflicts amongst many!!!😂

KHKT was his dream project which got crumpled...he signed a 3yr contract which got terminated overnight, his actors including leads didn't got costumes many a times from channel (even some other actors from diff shows also don't get many a times) , and when they got those were those crappy sarees and faded shirts!!🙄 , his shot promos were scrapped, he shot for some epi..the whole track got scrapped, his scripts were rejected, plots were changed one after the other, seperation and leap were enforced, ronakshi scenes gotbedited out, stupid effects were added and what not!! And after this when he was finally planning to end this crappy plot and give viewers what they wanted an overnight decision was taken!!!

When he got the mssg...he jusy gave up.(what i feel) as per raj's iv..he said u cannot give the best or even a satisfactory ending in 20 epi whem so many tracks r left open ended and so much is yet to be explored!! Even after this he wrote an end which was to comvey that not all sry's deserve an its ok...and ronakshi were to walk off from the sippys ....the channel again scrapped that and their logic was don't give away the mssg that one should walk off from the family! Uske baad..he just let the channel dominate! 🙃🙃🙃

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shanayass

lol true!!!

But sp is poweful..he won't dare say all this in open!! After all he still has tonwork in the industry! He said in raj's iv that he will come back soon and specially mentioned "on other channel"

Somewhere down the line he has made certain mistakes....but what he faced and suffered was much more worse..which kind of overshadowed his mistakes!! I do have more info...but it would create unnecessary confusions and conflicts amongst many!!!😂

KHKT was his dream project which got crumpled...he signed a 3yr contract which got terminated overnight, his actors including leads didn't got costumes many a times from channel (even some other actors from diff shows also don't get many a times) , and when they got those were those crappy sarees and faded shirts!!🙄 , his shot promos were scrapped, he shot for some epi..the whole track got scrapped, his scripts were rejected, plots were changed one after the other, seperation and leap were enforced, ronakshi scenes gotbedited out, stupid effects were added and what not!! And after this when he was finally planning to end this crappy plot and give viewers what they wanted an overnight decision was taken!!!

When he got the mssg...he jusy gave up.(what i feel) as per raj's iv..he said u cannot give the best or even a satisfactory ending in 20 epi whem so many tracks r left open ended and so much is yet to be explored!! Even after this he wrote an end which was to comvey that not all sry's deserve an its ok...and ronakshi were to walk off from the sippys ....the channel again scrapped that and their logic was don't give away the mssg that one should walk off from the family! Uske baad..he just let the channel dominate! 🙃🙃🙃

this info shows the brutal way of handling things by star.I got to learn from here about how channel interfering in storyline again n again but to this extent??? that's pathetic 😡same thing would definitely be happening in other shows as well.Star deserves downfall for all this
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: RonakshiFan

this info shows the brutal way of handling things by star.I got to learn from here about how channel interfering in storyline again n again but to this extent??? that's pathetic 😡same thing would definitely be happening in other shows as well.Star deserves downfall for all this

the reason we wanted extension..because finally sandeep was gonna present plits without sp's interference! And this is what channel ultinately did...

And this is just 5% of all what is going on!!! I hope its all out in open in a more proper way soon!!

And yess..other shows face this situation too..the diff is big nanes like ekta and shahi r able to dominate but producers which r still new fall prey to this crap!!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: columbia

Since there is a question mark across your post, I want to answer it and say

NOT necessarily, see in my view and I have maintained this from the beginning, the buck does not stop with the channel, the quality of the content buck stops with the creator.

The one I will be vary of is not SP about SS...Sandip Sickand, Star gave you money and told you get these trps and you will stay, as a creative person, you need to get creative with your story and with the way you sell your story to the audience and the channel.


End of the day, SP is a business so their motivations are very very clear. I have an issue with the creative team who didn’t trust their creativity and just became stoogies...Sickand knew very well how this works, he has been the show runner for many many Ekta shows, he knows this business. And the way the last weeks track has gone it tells me that Sickand isn’t very mature. The way he has blamed everyone except himself tells me a lot about him. If his work was really qualitative I would stop watching Star, but when the content was getting awful some months ago, he went around on SM blaming the channel so much that forum members also sang the same song. He had the audacity to tell all fandoms increase trp then ronakshi can be saved...no, get us better stories and save ronakshi don’t make us watch shitzzz.

The audience at home- trp audience is smarter, they actually stopped watching when the show went to shitzzzz...the whole marriage track which was apparently brought in to save trps was BS! Attempted rape was the track!!! I mean come on!! That’s not creativity, it’s Laziness!! The creative team lost this show long ago not the channel.


exactly .only sickand needs to be blamed .star plus was very clkear from start get trp and stay out from our interference

whats SO UNIQUE about khkt even in first 70 epiosdes ..talking to screen by FL 🤣 THE FERSHNESS IN FIRST 70 EPISODES IS NOT ENOUGH IN THE MOST COMPETITIVE 9 PM SLOT

U NEED TO BE REALLY UNIQUE AND CREATIVE AND SANDEEP FAILED IN THAT ASPECT IN THE FIRST 70 EPIOSDES

REMEMBER balika vadhu those days what a rage it was and it was a unique show ..sandeep failed miserable and now laming the channel alone and audience ..shameless sickand


for me anupama looks promising ..i gonna watch it at 9 p.m

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shanayass

would not comment on anything but to clear one thing...the marriage track...the team shot for a promo for which star didn't provided them a budget...the track was supposed to be completely diff...mahesh wasn't supposed to be mixed with the track...raima's track was supposed to end before the wedding day! The channel changed everything...every damn single thing!!! And even after that the script channel provided sanddip to show...if u r gonna hear that na..u will cringe!!!! And since sandiip refused to go to that extent prblms between the channel and sandeep started! And the downfall began!! Sandiip must be at fault at a lot of places...but what channel did with him was horrible!! And this is not the first show on star who is facing this...a lot of them have faced this crap from star!! Currwntly str is busy interferring in yrhpk's script...what happened in KHKT aftrt wedding is what is exactly happening their!


One more thing...coming to profits...KHKT was generating good revenews!! Better than many other shows on the channel...if star thought that it was still less..they could have easily shifted it to another time slot! Try calling star office in UK...those ppl will give a better insight of what is happening!!


Many ppl on twitter have sources in team SOL and in channel too...and those ppl r giving correct info right from the start..so are trustable too!! Pls if possible go through the show's official hashtag u will come to know about a lot of stuff!! Also will get to know about what was originally written..what he wrote for the next 6 months and the script channel provoded! 🙃🙃🙃


star started interfering when first 70 bepisodes ave them 1.7 trp average

that trp not enough at 9 p.m slot

so they started interfering

even first 70 episodes are fresh but r not so unique to get above 2.0 trp in 9 p.m slot

my gut feeling is anupama now at 9 p.m will give that trp to star since its a family story and that woman potrayed anupama is doing rellay good acting

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: VARUNI2014


star started interfering when first 70 bepisodes ave them 1.7 trp average

that trp not enough at 9 p.m slot

so they started interfering

even first 70 episodes are fresh but r not so unique to get above 2.0 trp in 9 p.m slot

my gut feeling is anupama now at 9 p.m will give that trp to star since its a family story and that woman potrayed anupama is doing rellay good acting

star is even interferring in yrhpk right now...they r getting 2.4-2.5 then why??

And for a 9 pm slot 1.8-2 is quite good!! And if they had prblm they could have easily changed the time slot! Sikkqnd proposed the idea of shifting them to non-prime slot too!!


U feel sona's char is destroyed right!?? Do u even know what that amupama is even about?? Its no where near bieng a good show!! Its running in a few regional languages and has a lot of conyroversies on it!!


U want me to tell u..what they r gonna show??

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Posted: 6 years ago
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How does Anupamma look any good ? Granted the actress is good but the whole concept is so blah


Some woman being a doormat and being constantly insulted by family especially her husband ?

Wow what a new concept 👌🏽


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