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Posted: 5 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: najma123

Yeah, so they showed today that Maya's interpreting the Gita to suit her situation and her vengeance. It's not wrong to have one's own interpretations. However, it means she isn't the right person to learn morality from. Coz her sense of moral compass is completely tilted and skewed. I'd mentioned this earlier as well, and this is why I couldn't see Rudra learning from her, what he is though, is learning because of her presence in his life.

She's the Krishna in her own life and she's trying to redeem herself from her past. But Krishna guided Arjun, did not entrap him in deceit and myth. Here Maya is doing just that. And that's why I don't see the Krishna-Arjun parallel here.

I hope with the future episodes we will get to review this post again.

To be honest, I still believe it's a parallel of Krishna-Arjun bond at the moment between them. Obviously Maya's actions cannot be compared to the Lord but her circumstances are also not comparable. We are in Kalyug and so the people, the morality, nothing is similar to the Dwaparyug of the Lord. Maya is also going to grow as the story progresses. Talking of tricks though, Krishna is the Lord of Maya. He played several tricks on the battlefield and they were justified coz they were played to make truth win over evil. For example, he made Arjun kill Bhishma using Shikandini by first threatening to kill Bhishma himself using the sudarshan chakra.

Maya thinks she is following the Lord's teachings. Maybe she sees tricks as the only Way to gain Rudras patronage. Let's see when the realization hits her that an eye for an eye makes the world blind. She does need to confront the moral questions in the future, especially seeing how Rudra questions her on things. Maybe Rudra will be her conscience?

Btw, just as a disclaimer, this is purely a discussion post for drawing parallels. Mean no offense. I love the Mahabharata and am a follower of Lord Krishna.

Edited by Armu4eva - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

I hope with the future episodes we will get to review this post again.

To be honest, I still believe it's a parallel of Krishna-Arjun bond at the moment between them. Obviously Maya's actions cannot be compared to the Lord but her circumstances are also not comparable. We are in Kalyug and so the people, the morality, nothing is similar to the Dwaparyug of the Lord. Maya is also going to grow as the story progresses. Talking of tricks though, Krishna is the Lord of Maya. He played several tricks on the battlefield and they were justified coz they were played to make truth win over evil. For example, he made Arjun kill Bhishma using Shikandini by first threatening to kill Bhishma himself using the sudarshan chakra.

Maya thinks she is following the Lord's teachings. Maybe she sees tricks as the only Way to gain Rudras patronage. Let's see when the realization hits her that an eye for an eye makes the world blind. She does need to confront the moral questions in the future, especially seeing how Rudra questions her on things. Maybe Rudra will be her conscience?

Btw, just as a disclaimer, this is purely a discussion post for drawing parallels. Mean no offense. I love the Mahabharata and am a follower of Lord Krishna.

Yeah yeah, I understand the disclaimer. It's alright. πŸ˜† Maybe.

That said, today I thought I saw Maya not being very happy when Rudra was being beaten up. Like a small part of her wasn't rejoicing.

I hope we get to come back to this thread again and again and with newer developments.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: najma123

Yeah yeah, I understand the disclaimer. It's alright. πŸ˜† Maybe.

That said, today I thought I saw Maya not being very happy when Rudra was being beaten up. Like a small part of her wasn't rejoicing.

I hope we get to come back to this thread again and again and with newer developments.

οΏΌI love to have these discussions. During Geet, IPKKND, Madhubala, I used to be part of these discussions. It's always enriching to hear differing points of view. And totally agree hope we get to revisit the thread with more episodes

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Posted: 5 years ago
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@najma I hav different pov that Krishna didn't trap arjun. Yes he didn't trap but he didn't tell arjun the complete truth also. Krishna the Lord knew what was goin to happen to his nephew on day 13. He knew arjun knew the trick of breakin chakravyuha abhimanyu had half knowledge. Yet on day 13 he took arjun on other side of battlefield allowing abhi to die brutally in that chakravyuh. The deceit he did to kauravas is different. But not forewarning his best friend abt the impendin doom on his son. He did it for a reason which I will make a seperate post if time permit. Here Maya is bringing out rudra same way Krishna brought out arjuna through trials. So to a great extent I agree to armu on the parallel
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Posted: 5 years ago
#25

Adding on to this thread (wrt Episode aired on 12th December)


Earlier during the day, Maya told Rudra that she being the investor, is his boss and the office is his. In yesterday episode, Rudra told Maya that though she is 40% shareholder, RuAn are together 60% shareholder and therefore, HER BOSS!


^^another example of how deeply Rudra registers Mayas words.

Edited by Armu4eva - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#26

Today's episode i.e. 17th December, 2019, as Rudra suffered from Claustrophobia and panic attacks from remembering his lovers betrayal with MJ, Maya inspired Rudra to get over his past and his fears to be truly free. "Tod do apni hadein.Beyhadh ho jao", was the mantra that Maya holding the Gita told Rudra. His posture, on his knees and distraught reminded me of Arjun once again from Mahabharata!


"π‘»π’–π’Žπ’‰π’† π’ƒπ’‚π’π’…π’‰π’π’†π’Œπ’‚ 𝒉𝒂𝒒 π’”π’Šπ’“π’‡ π’•π’–π’Žπ’‰π’† π’‰π’‚π’Šπ’, 𝒄𝒉𝒂𝒉𝒆 π’˜π’π’‰ π’‘π’šπ’‚π’‚π’“ 𝒉𝒐, 𝒏𝒂𝒇𝒓𝒂𝒕 𝒉𝒐, 𝒅𝒂𝒓𝒅 𝒉𝒐, π’Œπ’Šπ’”π’Š 𝒂𝒖𝒓 π’Œπ’ π’π’‚π’‰π’Š"


Nice job CVs

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Posted: 5 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Today's episode i.e. 17th December, 2019, as Rudra suffered from Claustrophobia and panic attacks from remembering his lovers betrayal with MJ, Maya inspired Rudra to get over his past and his fears to be truly free. "Beyhadh ho jao", was the mantra that Maya holding the Gita told Rudra. His posture, on his knees and distraught reminded me of Arjun once again from Mahabharata!

Maya said hume badhne ka haq sirf hume hona chahiye, koi atit, koi darr, buri yaad ko nahi!


Nice job CVs

@Bold, yes that was exactly like Krishna-Arjun. I completely agree.

My question - Why did Maya do what she did? Coz she's innately not so bad? Or she wanted the Roy's to suffer at HER hands alone and not due to their own fears and issues? Something like, curing a sick man and killing him with your own hands coz you want to cause the destruction. Or was she paying him back for saving her in the morning so they don't have debts to each other? I don't know.

Did Rudra tell Ananya about the lift incident? He doesn't seem to recall that aspect. It's as if he's mentally blocked that and is remembering the earlier aspects of the day when he's reminiscing.

Is it an unconscious understanding between MayRa that they won't acknowledge the inborn insecurities of each other? Rudra didn't mention about Maya's fears. Maya didn't really mention about his breakdown, but gave him a lesson.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#28

3rd January, 2020 Episode


Maya to Rudra: Mahabharat me Arjun aur Duryodhan ko Sri Krishna ne unme aur unki sena me chunne ko kaha tha. Aur Arjun ne Sri Krishna ko chuna tha kyunki yudh sena se nahi, akal se jeeti jati hai aur jab tak Maya ki akal tumhare sath hai tab tak tum nahi har sakte.


^^ woot. Super giddy

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Posted: 5 years ago
#29

Forget about the reference to the Great Lord Krishna or his disciple Arjuna the fact is during that time Krishna had to descend from the heavenly abode to restore the balance of good/evil leading the victory of Pandavas on the evil Kaurava clan but in this day and age of Modern Day Kaliyuga when the evil reigns supreme in the hearts and minds of humans alike if not all Maya has her task cut out against MJ.


As I have reiterated before also MJ is no fool.He is a corrupt but a ruthless Businessman with all the powers at his command-money can buy and Maya inspite of her divide and rule strategy pitting one brother Rudra and the other one Rishi against each other in order to hurt her Principal Adversary MJ knows how to reverse the games.


With the Live Press Social Media Conference by Rudra to take back his quota of shares Maya is playing a calculated but a risky game.Her Ally Rajeev perhaps is providing her the logistical and Financial Support perhaps bcoz this Maya Jaysingh is not the uber rich Maya Malhotra.


Perhaps Rajeev has given her the funds or Maya has made enough money through her modelling career to get upto 40% shareholding in Rudra's Business venture. I have not seen the episodes so can't comment about the same much.


Getting back to the topic I would prefer the term Chanakya bcoz Maya is using Chanakya like strategies against the Roy family though Rudra might be her Arjun.As far as Rishi is concerned he could clearly see today that Maya was covertly manipulating Rudra to do her bidding against MJ.


I don't have problem with Maya's revenge games but her exposure this quickly against a powerful.adversary like MJ is not advisable.Maya might have done her research on the Roys for her revenge but why is she openly taking the battle headlong to MJ forget the moral part later? In tomorrow's episode MJ's henchman threw Maya into some ditch? Is she prepared to fight those henchmen though she might know fencing and other martial.arts perhaps with a trained body?


MJ knows her name now through that Mobile Live Conference.Now MJ might not be able to directly hurt Maya bcoz of his own bad deeds with the fear of getting exposed but he has 100 other ways to hurt her.Rishi also might go.against her now seeing her open games.I don't think the kiddo is such a fool.to fall into Maya's seductive charms again.He can clearly see Maya's provocative game of turning Rudra against his own family.


Jhanvi or Durga played their games but did it in a hidden manner under the shadows not openly like Maya howsoever effective it might be.She could have been a silent Investor/Sleeping Partner without going into the Lion's Den(Roy's Office) in the first place.This is not to put down Maya's character but her games needs more polishing.Yeah we all want Mayra's blissful reunion with MJ's defeat but depending on the genre being revenge it might or might not have happy ending. The last season had a sad ending with Maya as the chief tormentor then now the roles have been reversed.


Maya could have exposed herself before the Roy family with the right timing against MJ.



Maya might be a grey character but she needs to be the Chanakya more with a little wisdom from.Lord Krishna though I might add that both Krishna/Chanakya were legendary characters and cannot be compared to.a normal fictional grey character like Maya.

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