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Posted: 5 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Zeal17

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ Still stuck up on gender discrimination wonderful!! I was putting forth the point that stop looking it from gender prism.

Traditions evolve with time. In ancient time it was meant for praying n fasting for Ragi harvest. Gender is not mentioned. So who knows who was keeping it.

Then came the so called patriarchal society where men who volunteered for army their family was praying n fasting for their safe return. Gender wife or maybe sister, mother of married men. (Why not father or brother, might as well be in the army. Personally, you might see as gender discrimination.. I see it as a sign of women strength that they can and they adhere to rituals much better than men)

Fast forward to today... Female wants to fight KC and make it the gender war. Some men out of love have started keeping fast out of love( some forced by the feminist wife).. which is a good development.

So why not we go back to the roots celebrate karva chauth about harvesting where couple volunteer together. Teach that to out next generation rather than keep fighting for ancient customs.

Wow ๐Ÿ˜† A whole lecture on why we shouldn't question a GENDER based ritual.

This is 2019,lol. Come back to this time and reassess everything and question every single ritual that was borne out of the past. Thats why we get educated in life. To question things. What women had to to do for men centuries ago should not be a ritual in 2019. Ancient customs are made by men and humans and can and should be questioned by humans and be left where they belong -history if they are not equal.

You seeing women keeping a fast for men gong to war as something of their strength is great! Congrats! Now come back to 2019 when women can show their strength by going to fight themselves and every other way men can :) SURPRISE! ๐Ÿ˜†

Again,some men keeping a fast for their wives is not whats followed by the ritual in majority of the land so good for them 'lucky ladies' whose husbands are such great human beings fasting for them(lol) but how about we do a ritual in tune with todays times that has nothing of the Karwa Chauth hangover. Great to see 'the feminist wife forcing them comment' Incredibly insightful ๐Ÿ˜†

And sure let's teach that! Please petition for it next! Do tell us how to get rid of this gender based ritual :D But before that,lets not bs about it and not call it was it is.. gender based.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Wow ๐Ÿ˜† A whole lecture on why we shouldn't question a GENDER based ritual.

This is 2019,lol. Come back to this time and reassess everything and question every single ritual that was borne out of the past. Thats why we get educated in life. To question things. What women had to to do for men centuries ago should not be a ritual in 2019. Ancient customs are made by men and humans and can and should be questioned by humans and be left where they belong -history if they are not equal.

You seeing women keeping a fast for men gong to war as something of their strength is great! Congrats! Now come back to 2019 when women can show their strength by going to fight themselves and every other way men can :) SURPRISE! ๐Ÿ˜†

Again,some men keeping a fast for their wives is not whats followed by the ritual in majority of the land so good for them 'lucky ladies' whose husbands are such great human beings fasting for them(lol) but how about we do a ritual in tune with todays times that has nothing of the Karwa Chauth hangover. Great to see 'the feminist wife forcing them comment' Incredibly insightful ๐Ÿ˜†

And sure let's teach that! Please petition for it next! Do tell us how to get rid of this gender based ritual :D But before that,lets not bs about it and not call it was it is.. gender based.

Did you forget to read that who was keeping fast for original purpose rahi harvest is unknown?

I am saying forget it karva chauth has any gender connotation.. celebrate it together as praying for what original intent that is.. harvesting (in past it was ragi-harvest.. I say in modern times it's about love harvest). Couples can make it as a celebration of day of love. (Don't give me what about other 364 days.. why celebrate any festival on any particular date in that case)

You want to make it gender based not me...

Ok tell me did you question why only female goddesses in Bengali are worshipped and why no male God๐Ÿค” why no equality fight there.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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No funds no barking lol n in might be preparing for mars passport lol

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Out of curiosity. Those who celebrate karva chauth or teej - why do you celebrate it. Obviously, we all know that a wife cannot increase her husband's life by fasting.

So what motivates you to fast and keep this ritual? Do you at some level believe it will increase your husband's lifespan? Why does it bring you joy? What was going through your mind the first time you kept karva chauth? What goes through your mind every year? Did it ever bother you that men didn't have to do anything similar for their wives? Have any of you had a husband who has mutually joined in? If your husband asks you not to fast, what do you tell him in order to keep your fast? Do you feel it is important to keep this tradition? What would happen if this ritual faded away in time? Do you ever ponder on the fine line between free will and peer pressure - aka is every woman doing it out of her choice or is she being guilted into doing it because all the women around her are doing it? What do you tell impressionable girls who think they must fast for their boyfriends? Or the crazy ones who fast for movie stars and celebs?

In more general curiosity - do people know of same-sex couples who participate in karva chauth?

My husband and I both belong to communities that do not celebrate Karwachauth. However I have been fasting since I have been married. Most of my friends are Punjabis and that is one day that we celebrate together. We go for mehendi together, go shopping for churis together, go buy stuff for our sargis, share pics of us when we wake early that morning, do the Pooja together and break our fast together. Itโ€™s also one of the few days of the year where I get to wear a saree and doll up and spend the evening taking pictures with my girlfriends. Several of my friends have moved away now and yet we still share pics of everything this day. Itโ€™s a fun filled day for me and gives me great pleasure. Also to answer your question yes my husband does join me in the fasting and we do Pooja of each other when we break the fast. My mother in law or husband have never asked me to fast.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Out of curiosity. Those who celebrate karva chauth or teej - why do you celebrate it. Obviously, we all know that a wife cannot increase her husband's life by fasting.

So what motivates you to fast and keep this ritual? Do you at some level believe it will increase your husband's lifespan? Why does it bring you joy? What was going through your mind the first time you kept karva chauth? What goes through your mind every year? Did it ever bother you that men didn't have to do anything similar for their wives? Have any of you had a husband who has mutually joined in? If your husband asks you not to fast, what do you tell him in order to keep your fast? Do you feel it is important to keep this tradition? What would happen if this ritual faded away in time? Do you ever ponder on the fine line between free will and peer pressure - aka is every woman doing it out of her choice or is she being guilted into doing it because all the women around her are doing it? What do you tell impressionable girls who think they must fast for their boyfriends? Or the crazy ones who fast for movie stars and celebs?

In more general curiosity - do people know of same-sex couples who participate in karva chauth?

RTH most of the questions you have asked are related to one's faith....its difficult to explain....like it would be difficult for an atheist to understand why those who believe in God ...believe in God...sometimes scientific proofs are not needed...I also do 9 days of fasting for Navratri.....if u ask me why I do it...its difficult to explain...

I can speak for myself only...no it never bothers me that men don't do it....I don't care if some men now do it...I really don't care if this tradition slowly fades....My religion and my faith is personal to me....and its not my responsibility to pass it on to the next generation....the next generation will do what they think is correct...

My husband or in-laws never guilted me into doing this....I do this because I want to do it...there are some traditions that I absolutely didn't want to follow...like when I was getting married...I told my Dad that I didn't want him to do Kanyadaan.....as I am not something that he owns and can give it away to someone..I am my own person.....my Dad although agreed with my thought.....still said that there are some things that are part of a Hindu marriage and we have to do it...I understood his majboori.....but the thought of a girl being given away to another person as an object still repulses me....So it depends...I do what my heart says...

As for same sex couples...I don't know any but it would be nice for them to fast for each other if that is what they want.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Wow ๐Ÿ˜† A whole lecture on why we shouldn't question a GENDER based ritual.

This is 2019,lol. Come back to this time and reassess everything and question every single ritual that was borne out of the past. Thats why we get educated in life. To question things. What women had to to do for men centuries ago should not be a ritual in 2019. Ancient customs are made by men and humans and can and should be questioned by humans and be left where they belong -history if they are not equal.

You seeing women keeping a fast for men gong to war as something of their strength is great! Congrats! Now come back to 2019 when women can show their strength by going to fight themselves and every other way men can :) SURPRISE! ๐Ÿ˜†

Again,some men keeping a fast for their wives is not whats followed by the ritual in majority of the land so good for them 'lucky ladies' whose husbands are such great human beings fasting for them(lol) but how about we do a ritual in tune with todays times that has nothing of the Karwa Chauth hangover. Great to see 'the feminist wife forcing them comment' Incredibly insightful ๐Ÿ˜†

And sure let's teach that! Please petition for it next! Do tell us how to get rid of this gender based ritual :D But before that,lets not bs about it and not call it was it is.. gender based.

You almost seem upset at the idea of some LUCKY ladies have good husbands๐Ÿ˜†

No one is judging the ones who don't fast....then why are the ones who are fasting being judged....if women don't want to do it...the system will fade away on its own....

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Posted: 5 years ago
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And how do you know that they are forced ?

Do they celebrate forced KC in Bengal ? .. ๐Ÿค” .. I thought only Durga pooja and celebration of feminine power is big over there .. ๐Ÿค— ... Do you personally know anyone who has been forced to fast during KC ? .. Have you tried to help them ? .. FYI, fasting once during the whole year is actually good for health .. But this gender thing is indeed troublesome , isn't it ? .. ๐Ÿ˜†

You know, all of yours' and RTH's posts can be attributed to one single phenomenon which has come to be known as "feminazis" .. You guys arent feminists , you are feminazis .. So, everything you say or see , you say or see it from a gender perspective .. RTH at least tries to be diplomatic and reasonable about it ( and fails miserably ๐Ÿ˜†) .. You on the other hand do not bother to mince words - man hater and proud .. ๐Ÿ˜Ž.. I like that about you .. At least you arent phoney like RTH .. ๐Ÿ˜†

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

You almost seem upset at the idea of some LUCKY ladies have good husbands๐Ÿ˜†

No one is judging the ones who don't fast....then why are the ones who are fasting being judged....if women don't want to do it...the system will fade away on its own....

Cliche. ๐Ÿ˜†

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

You almost seem upset at the idea of some LUCKY ladies have good husbands๐Ÿ˜†

No one is judging the ones who don't fast....then why are the ones who are fasting being judged....if women don't want to do it...the system will fade away on its own....

Oh you wish but naaaah ๐Ÿ˜†

And literally who is judging the ones who have the freedom to do whatever that pleases you ๐Ÿ˜‚ Infact this thread was made cause someone literally could not care enough to judge y'all this year.

My jibe was at the blanket statement of how because some husbands do it its suddenly not gender based anymore. How lucky๐Ÿ˜†A class centric comment can be made here but I digress.

And really? If women didn't want to do something thrusted by ritual in this country...the system just faded on its own accord.. just like that? Took no societal effort ?Wow..Nice ๐Ÿ˜†

I hope you know this. The same woman who is thrusted with the responsibility of fasting for the long life of their husband in most cases is also held responsible and called names like daayan apne pati ko kha gayi and boycotted when something happens to that husband. Truth of rural India. So I think all the connotations for Karwa Chauth need to be taken into consideration before declaring it blanket statements how it is not regressive. A class divide remains potent.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: --Pro.vo.King--

And how do you know that they are forced ?

Do they celebrate forced KC in Bengal ? .. ๐Ÿค” .. I thought only Durga pooja and celebration of feminine power is big over there .. ๐Ÿค— ... Do you personally know anyone who has been forced to fast during KC ? .. Have you tried to help them ? .. FYI, fasting once during the whole year is actually good for health .. But this gender thing is indeed troublesome , isn't it ? .. ๐Ÿ˜†

You know, all of yours' and RTH's posts can be attributed to one single phenomenon which has come to be known as "feminazis" .. You guys arent feminists , you are feminazis .. So, everything you say or see , you say or see it from a gender perspective .. RTH at least tries to be diplomatic and reasonable about it ( and fails miserably ๐Ÿ˜†) .. You on the other hand do not bother to mince words - man hating and proud .. ๐Ÿ˜Ž.. I like that about you .. At least you arent phoney like RTH .. ๐Ÿ˜†

I suggest you become a social worker in India. :) And Yes KCs are forced in rural India and even in urban India (Delhi NCR). Women have been called daayans and witches for refusing to fast. Even when they were pregnant. So yes! In all 7 years I have seen everything very personally and rehabiliated a lot of them too! Thanks for asking :)

Feminazis lmfao. Now,where have I heard that one before๐Ÿ˜† Questioning a gender based ritual when the women fast is 'feminazi' ! Oooh. So original!

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