Hanuman Singh - Page 12

If that what the case , wasn’t babita ‘s dream shattered by Hs words, there is always two side to a coin but I find most are only see one side which is Hs .

PH or CVs are just lumping every feelings,emotions of babita as ego,the way the portrayed Minnie”s and Hs’ feelings in the serial was more profound then they portraying babita’s Feelings. Every action ,word are given the name ego as if she is incapable of having any other feelings. Even when she said Hs has chosen ego over love is shown as her ego. As woman who is 48 years I find it highly insulting because what I understood from that scene was she was reassuring herself the love that her man had for her above all.

A very well written post. I was confused as well about when Babita hurt HS to the extent he has. For a woman to be told by the man she has come to trust "don't get too interested in paraya-mard" is deeply insulting! He needed to apologize for that.

She needs to be supported now that she is learning to balance relationships and self-respect! Instead the story is making her the bad guy.

Thank you for this post. It made me watch the episode on Monday when I thought of not watching the show for few weeks perhaps. I have been criticising Babita's character as well and I felt that whatever they have shown in that apology scene made her look insensitive to me. See I understand flawed and real women characters but it's also writing and screenplay that needs to make do an extra thing for people to understand them, relate to them and feel for them. I am okay with women having ego issues. I have too and yes I have suffered as well still that's my real me.. she deserved an apology ofcourse but my problem was her overlooking hurt that she caused him for that... When he apologized it's her reaction that bothered me... It was like victory by putting other person down..atleast it came out like that to me.. if PH has to justify so much on her ego as they brought out then obviously they missed to project what they wanted to show. .You find HS character inconsistent, I found Babita's character bit inconsistent .She is shown to have such deep understanding of things yet at times she comes out to be ignoring not only HS but Minnie's feelings at time .. both of them being very considerate of her feelings on contrary. Somewhere in need to show her growth PH has relied too much on efforts of Minnie and HS... Yes she got wonderful support but people sometime are not that lucky.. they need to grow themselves too in the end of it all. As a woman I understand her feelings and like you said i could understand her reasons for previous reactions but at this juncture after proposing to the man and trusting his love to move forward in life.. conditional apology and then reaction on that was where writers missed the mark for me.. I give them benefit of doubt.. as a flawed female lead I have even liked binodini's character in Tagore's choker Bali.. A woman cheating on her best friend's husband..it's just the beauty of writing that Tagore has which makes you relate with binodini more than ashalata. For me that connection with Babita wasn't made.. may be as you said focus was shifted to HS's feelings more due to AD's connect and acting that they explored complexity in his character while simplifying Babita 's reaction in ego..

Anyways watching the show and allowing them to tell their story further..

The point about Babita's ego came early in the show a few times and more recently in ep 184 when Minnie confronted her mother's true reason for wanting to leave the haveli. It was discussed in detail and if you go back and watch things will make sense.

Also, I agree that her reaction after HS apologized was what ticked a lot of people off, that triumphant look on her face after making him bend, as opposed to relief and happiness that her insecurities had been in vain.

I want Babita to always stand up for her self-respect and dignity, not just as a woman but as a human being, as a parent, but in going overboard she might risk losing the very dignity she is trying to uphold. Slippery slope.

Originally posted by: riti4u

Thank you for this post. It made me watch the episode on Monday when I thought of not watching the show for few weeks perhaps. I have been criticising Babita's character as well and I felt that whatever they have shown in that apology scene made her look insensitive to me. See I understand flawed and real women characters but it's also writing and screenplay that needs to make do an extra thing for people to understand them, relate to them and feel for them. I am okay with women having ego issues. I have too and yes I have suffered as well still that's my real me.. she deserved an apology ofco7urse but my problem was her overlooking hurt that she caused him for that... When he apologized it's her reaction that bothered me... It was like victory by putting other person down..atleast it came out like that to me.. if PH has to justify so much on her ego as they brought out then obviously they missed to project what they wanted to show. .You find HS character inconsistent, I found Babita's character bit inconsistent .She is shown to have such deep understanding of things yet at times she comes out to be ignoring not only HS but Minnie's feelings at time .. both of them being very considerate of her feelings on contrary. Somewhere in need to show her growth PH has relied too much on efforts of Minnie and HS... Yes she got wonderful support but people sometime are not that lucky.. they need to grow themselves too in the end of it all. As a woman I understand her feelings and like you said i could understand her reasons for previous reactions but at this juncture after proposing to the man and trusting his love to move forward in life.. conditional apology and then reaction on that was where writers missed the mark for me.. I give them benefit of doubt.. as a flawed female lead I have even liked binodini's character in Tagore's choker Bali.. A woman cheating on her best friend's husband..it's just the beauty of writing that Tagore has which makes you relate with binodini more than ashalata. For me that connection with Babita wasn't made.. may be as you said focus was shifted to HS's feelings more due to AD's connect and acting that they explored complexity in his character while simplifying Babita 's reaction in ego..

Anyways watching the show and allowing them to tell their story further..

For me too its simply about writing and describing characters, their actions and the reasons behind them. Human emotions are some time too complex to understand. It's depth of writing which makes an action or reaction justified.

I think that who ever wrote those words for HS to say has messed up as it was totally of context of his Character and even I was shocked by it. Who in there right mind would write those lines when it is not in the Character from the beginning. I think that they wanted drama and they got it at the expense of a HS butchered character by those words.

But with Babita blackmail was not good either as there was no need for it and again the writer messed it up and shown flip and flop again.

What was the need for it as this is PB and not a Etra serial is beyond me.

Even now there are based too much on what will people say. Really move on now.

Will Babita demand a apology from Khatri as he said a lot worse to her as well. Maybe Babita should tell Khamo what Khatri said about a lady for him as well.

The PH is better off focusing on continuing to deliver good scenes and writing and not getting too affected by what people say. It is their story after all, their creation to do whatever they want with. They did not want the ML or FL to be seen as perfect or idealistic, that's their call.

Let's give them some breathing room and experience the characters' journeys instead of judging the PH.

The fact that they are able to elicit such strong reactions in the first place proves that they are generally going in the right direction. I reiterate that they are leagues ahead of anything else around.

Originally posted by: inlieu

The PH is better off focusing on continuing to deliver good scenes and writing and not getting too affected by what people say. It is their story after all, their creation to do whatever they want with. They did not want the ML or FL to be seen as perfect or idealistic, that's their call.

Let's give them some breathing room and experience the characters' journeys instead of judging the PH.

The fact that they are able to elicit such strong reactions in the first place proves that they are generally going in the right direction. I reiterate that they are leagues ahead of anything else around.

Yes the fact that only one scene can cause such disappointment shows how high standards they have.. I am okay with them telling their story...after their reaction on tweets one could see a writer's anguish.. as someone who writes too...I understand that frustration.. so yeah let them tell their story :) . They should though be open to criticism and feedback too but yes in the end it's their story to tell .

Originally posted by: Peace_Seeker

For me too its simply about writing and describing characters, their actions and the reasons behind them. Human emotions are some time too complex to understand. It's depth of writing which makes an action or reaction justified.

Yes we often relate to complex characters due to amazing in depth feelings they portray or understanding they generate despite their flaws... Whether it's jealousy, ego or anger..if writer has conveyed it onscreen beautifully with natural flow..one relates with them and forgives them ..more importantly empathize with them... Meeta was also portrayed beautifully till they simplified her character in end by making her Bechari and victim of circumstances in the end..