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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hello.

I am a silent reader here and have loved the show, the writing, characters and the acting. There has been much discussion in the last few days about Babita and her ego and HS and his hurt/love. I have enjoyed reading all comments and perspectives and just felt like sharing something from my side now -

Aniruddh Dave - Has been a fantastic actor and stayed consistent in every emotion, track or moment they scripted. He made us believe in HS's goodness, love, unlimited support and understanding.

HS - The character. I feel the PH has been inconsistent with this character. It seems that the character graph or certain story bends got written to bring out Aniruddh's brilliant acting.

PH - They have scripted Babita in reality. but it feels to me that they kept scripting HS scenes the way they did as they understood AD is connecting with the audience brilliantly.

I have few questions/thoughts on the character HS (keeping AD out of the equation).

Disclaimer - This is a very long note. I just had many thoughts :-)

Hanuman Singh -

1. He says Babita hurt him many times and he ignored. Am trying to understand when did she hurt him and why was he hurt.

- Camera incident - Babita was returning everyone's invested money. All were well-wishers. NB took hers but HS refused. The way he reacted, NB understood for the 1st time that he has developed feelings for Babita. Now NB could be society and anyone will assume he has a soft corner for Babita if he reacted in such a manner.

Babita was still on a journey to moving forward from the painful events in her life. Her past was still around her and she was in no mind space to love anyone else.

Any self-respecting woman in that situation, understanding that another man has started having a soft corner for her, will attempt to clearly draw boundaries. No one needs that complication at that particular juncture in life. it was way too soon and she was not ready.

When he got the Camera from the returned money, she didnt like it and asked mini to return it. do we not tell our kids to not take expensive gifts from others - be it friends or family. and HS is someone in whose house they stay. He is a support but it is all the more important to ensure that the boundaries are maintained when you are not ready.

HS got upset. I don't understand this. Did his love come with a condition that it should be reciprocated immediately and in the manner he wants? This can't be the case as he has been shown to be mature so she clarified the boundaries, he accepted, then why carry the hurt. She was not in the love phase and it is important to have boundaries when living in this close proximity.

2. Babita says 'Thank you' to HS which he doesn't like - I understand the feeling but again from her perspective she is simply thanking him for everything he keeps doing.

Babita is not compelled to fall in love just because HS has fallen in love with her. Even if Babita loves HS, she is not compelled to act on it. She is just coming out of her life events that happened just a few months back. It is all too soon so she is OK to draw boundaries. Why should this hurt the man who understands her too well and knows relations are complicated? And why is he carrying this hurt? Did it hurt his love when she didn't reciprocate or his ego?

3. HS says he doesn't want to change Babita. He wants her the way she is with all her past, insecurities, cracks and more.

- Then how on the 1st clear view of her insecurities (when she demanded the sorry), does he worry so deeply and talks about Amrit Manthan and him drinking the poison and fear if he will be able to live with it. This is a man who knows the sensitivities of their relationship. The fact that both come with a past and the fact that she has many pains and insecurities and was willing to accept her with all.

Babita didn't ask him to apologise with folded hands. She asked him to apologise and mean it. He chose the style of doing it himself. I feel the PH is stressing on Babita's ego as that's what they want to highlight but in Babita's situation, any real woman will have insecurities and not once has HS ever verbalised his love for her. It has all been implied (from both ends) but any woman (or man) needs to hear it. She chose this way to assure herself that he really loves her (maybe the wrong way but in a real person, there are many emotions going on within simultaneously, in any moment - it's not like we deal with one emotion at a time). It was her hurt at the words, her confusion, her insecurity (maybe about herself if she is really worthy of this new happiness) and insecurity and the need to know if he really loves her or will leave at the first sign of discomfort.

She really didn't ask him to apologise with folded hands. She simply asked him to apologise and mean it. The first time he apologised, it was like 'you have also hurt me many times but i let it go. You knew the circumstances and why I said what I said, but sorry'. Yes, she knows the circumstances now but words once spoken cannot be taken away. In this scenario, I would like the man to apologise on his own which he didn't so if it was me, i would feel 'taken for granted'. she doesn't want to be taken for granted this time. HS will not but she is protecting herself (it's a natural instinct).

You cannot erase the past and her current actions will have impressions of the past. At least till the point, she is fully confident of her new life. In this scenario, just knowing the man loves you is not enough. Human psyche runs deeper.

Being taken for granted - extended the point above, HS came in during the Puja, sat next to her and announced himself to Mini's father. All this in full public view. Irrespective of the bond between HS & Mini, babita is Mini mother. HS has not declared his love for Babita in words but announced himself to be mini's father and this without even asking the mother even once. All discussions post this tell us that the father-daughter bond is not dependent on Hanita bond, which is true. Then the question is when the father-daughter bond is not dependent on Hanita bond, how can Babita be sure that the Father announcement was his declaration of love for her? It was simply his declaration of his love for mini ! And he didn't even bother to ask the Mother before doing that. Extension of this - he comes back and pushes her away with the harshest words. The Father-Daughter bond continues after this. In all this, only Babita would feel completely taken for granted and left assuming many things.

She understands his hurt, the Imarti situation and what he was going through but she is a grown woman with a past not an optimistic teenager free to choose relationships. She understood his situation but he had hurt her below the belt so she cannot just jump in. She doesn't know if she will be pushed away if she did that or if he even wants that. A teenagers response in this situation and an adult's woman's response cannot be compared.

Mini asks her to come to NB's house and help the situation. She hesitates. Mini goes by herself thinking Babita has given up. Mini talks to SS and gets the letter to read. Against all emotions and hurt, Babita comes there by herself (she just took longer to make that decision but Mini had already left and Babita could have chosen not to come but she did). Babita helped, she translated the letter but kept a physical distance. This is the distance HS created and she maintained. How the hell will she erase this completely when SS leaves and just jump back into romance. It takes guts. HS has still not verbalised his feelings and she finally took a leap of faith by vocalising her intention. (She proposed). She knows he loves her but love is not enough to drive a relationship in the real world. She needed assurance. She didnt hide her hurt and told him she was hurt and expected an apology. This is not one-dimensional. It was not just about the apology, it was about reassuring herself, not being taken for granted, wanting to know for sure if she is his priority and if he will stand by her even in an uncomfortable situation. There were too many emotions in that one act. The PH is over-simplifying this and labelling this as EGO. Humans are not so shallow.

4. HS kept his ego aside and apologised with folded hands - He kept his ego aside and chose love. Then why feel bad about it? and bad to this extend? He knows her too well so he knows she has many insecurities especially after the recent experience and the messy divorce. She has stood strong, listened and learnt from everyone but acted on her own and brought herself forward in life. This is what he fell in love with. He didn't fall in love with perfection but a woman with an inner strength to learn & grow. Accept what life throws at her and face it.

When he tells Lala that she never got a chance to take out her frustration & pain of past experience so she took it out on me - he is right. No-one just comes out of her kind of experience in a blink. It is not a switch and she has simply been moving forward since. But have her emotions got any outlet. So her insecurities came out.

The only answer to insecurities is love. A strong love anchor (which HS was supposed to be) will heal insecurities with time. He has a lot of love to give so why is he suddenly afraid and why is the woman's emotions suddenly her ego?

He meant his sorry so why is he so upset (even till the next morning) that he is so low and doesn't want to join the chunni selection? Why show a feeling of 'what have I gotten myself into'? If his love is strong and he understands Babita, how can he not see her insecurities? and If he sees her insecurities, why is he so afraid of the future? He knew she will have many 'kharashe' and he wanted her with all - so why be so deeply effected at the first sign of it?

or was the PH trying to cash in on AD's brilliant acting skills to show him emoting angst, pain, tragedy?? and the outcome is simplifying Babita's emotions....

The PH and us all know that the 2 characters (Babita & HS) are written as love interests to each other but that doesn't mean the characters know that (or should know that). If HS does something sweet, Babita cannot be expected to reciprocate on the same level. If she doesn't, she has hurt HS!! But she doesn't know she is supposed to be HS's love interest in this story.....she is living her emotions and drawing boundaries.

You don't love with a condition to receive love back. So you shouldn't hurt if the other doesn't reciprocate as expected. If you are willing to wait and give space to the other person, then how can you be upset that the other is taking time to step over boundaries! I don't understand how Babita hurt HS by not reciprocating his love as and when he wanted. She was simply not ready.

And HS has been shown to be more mature than this so the up & down of this character's emotions do not fully feel justified now. And in life, you don't just go from one thing to next without any space in-between which is what Babita is required to do in this script.

btw, he is also the one who said - 'Imarti, imarti thi' and walked away in angst. The next day when NB mentioned that his words hurt Babita, his response was 'I don't think I said anything hurtful. she knows my past with Imarti'. If he doesn't think he said anything hurtful, he cannot understand the impact of them.

Babita - why is she expected to understand all this and absorb everything without even expecting a heart-felt apology? Yes, Imarti, Imarti thi. Babita just wants to know if 'Babita, Babita hai ya nahi'. Why over-simplify and call it ego?

Like Babita, too many thoughts in my mind too :-)

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Kudos for thinking and listing out everything in such detail. Just scanned the entire post for now.

About the camera thing - if Babita would've just plainly told Mini to return it, it was okay. But the way she doubted HS' intentions behind that gift- was something that cannot be overlooked. HS himself has patiently waited for her first step, for a looong time, without any expectations. So him wanting an immediate reciprocation doesn't make sense.

He is always clear on one thing- it's okay if you don't feel the same. But don't make a mockery of my love and feelings, which is right. Cause his love is absolute and solid. And she has no right to question or object that.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Agreed on each and every point..one just can not forget all the experience he/ she earns in their Life..even when we moveon .. consciously or unconsciously we keep that hurt betrayal in our mind ..and act with all the learnings when another similar situation arises..one can move on from tangible things like wearing mangalsutra or sindoor .. person and places too ..like she moved on from ashok..but the babita she is today carries all the baggage ..we just can't cut our emotions pain and feelings unless it's drama and character looses it's memory and forget everything

...we aren't entirely made of flesh and blood but of emotions, lesson ,past ,memories ,hurt betrayal.. kindness.... experiences


..i think they have given too much importance to ego rather than her inner turmoil..and feelings

If it would have been shown as vividly hs's thoughts we could have felt her situation too

And the point a teenager and grown women..who has been betrayed in worst way after waiting for 17 years ...thinks and act differently

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Posted: 6 years ago
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You exactly echoed my feeling.

People are setting higher standards for babita than HS.

If HS can't get over a good marriage that ended 7-8 years ago, how can babita get over a traumatic relationship of 17 years within few months?

Also if HS apologized after sincere realization then why is he feeling low about it? Yes the way apology was asked was wrong, but that humiliation was nothing compared to how he humiliated babita. It would take a big heart to forgive a man who says paraya mard me interest na lo.

And most exceptional moment in this show for me was when babita decided to forgive meeta. She didn't have to, but still she did. If she can mend her ways with a mistress, she can always do it with HS. And it's not like she wouldn't let go for HS, but man tell her what you didn't like.

And Friday I felt bad for HS, but after rewatching the episode, I thought he was kinda overreacting.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I am surely in minority here but I don't think Babita did anything wrong in the Camera incident.

Ep 131 - She clarifies her stand towards HS. He understands he has feelings for her and politely draws boundaries. He is hurt and says 'seene main aag bhabhag gayi jaise' but accepts her decision and leaves. Babita tells NB that she knows HS is a very good man and she respects him a lot thats why doesn't want to do anything that will complicate the relationship. She is already in too many complicated relationships.

Ep 133 - HS brings Camera. Mini shows it to Babita and says that in such a short time, HS has become very attached to them. Babita remembers HS's words about 'feeling something for them.... when he was refusing to take the money' then, his feelings when was cleaning the gas burner. She knows his feelings and she conveyed her boundaries with respect. He gifting such an expensive gift is difficult for her to take. She confronts him and asks why he brought it. If people come to know, what will they think'?

Like she told HS in ep 131, she wants to keep herself clean. Mini's father has not been an inspiration but she wants to make sure that Mini never gets a reason to point fingers at her. This is what is playing on her mind when she confronts HS about the camera.

Yes, HS's equation with Mini is different & separate from his feelings for Babita but in that time, in that situation, in her state of mind, she cannot disconnect the 2. Also, he is a single man and his actions will lead to people pointing fingers at her (and by extension, Mini - she is in protective mode). She respects him a lot to insult him. She is simply into too much to deal with this new things in life and she tried to keep the relation clean.

The 'I don't care' attitude doesn't come easy to many Indian women and in that moment, she was (and still is many times) thinking of society.....and also didn't want anyone to point fingers at mini...

I feel since that episode, everyone's push to her to acknowledge her feelings or to have romantic feelings for HS just increased.... she was just coming out of a bad situation and everyone expected her to jump into a new one..... it's not easy for any woman.

Well, it was not easy for even HS even after 7/8 years of his past experience..... Babita's situation was still very fresh and her actions had to be very raw. It is natural...

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakurablossom

You exactly echoed my feeling.

People are setting higher standards for babita than HS.

If HS can't get over a good marriage that ended 7-8 years ago, how can babita get over a traumatic relationship of 17 years within few months?

Also if HS apologized after sincere realization then why is he feeling low about it? Yes the way apology was asked was wrong, but that humiliation was nothing compared to how he humiliated babita. It would take a big heart to forgive a man who says paraya mard me interest na lo.

And most exceptional moment in this show for me was when babita decided to forgive meeta. She didn't have to, but still she did. If she can mend her ways with a mistress, she can always do it with HS. And it's not like she wouldn't let go for HS, but man tell her what you didn't like.

And Friday I felt bad for HS, but after rewatching the episode, I thought he was kinda overreacting.

EXACTLY! I was avoiding to use the word but now even I feel he was overreacting... especially his speech to Lala seemed like an overreaction... It is okay to sulk over the way Babita asked for the apology... that was wrong but yaar he has wronged Babita at times too...

Like when he said all those words, everyone expected Babita to understand Hanuman and forgive him and move on without him apologizing... so why are the rules different for Hanuman?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakurablossom

You exactly echoed my feeling.

People are setting higher standards for babita than HS.

If HS can't get over a good marriage that ended 7-8 years ago, how can babita get over a traumatic relationship of 17 years within few months?

Also if HS apologized after sincere realization then why is he feeling low about it? Yes the way apology was asked was wrong, but that humiliation was nothing compared to how he humiliated babita. It would take a big heart to forgive a man who says paraya mard me interest na lo.

And most exceptional moment in this show for me was when babita decided to forgive meeta. She didn't have to, but still she did. If she can mend her ways with a mistress, she can always do it with HS. And it's not like she wouldn't let go for HS, but man tell her what you didn't like.

And Friday I felt bad for HS, but after rewatching the episode, I thought he was kinda overreacting.

Yes. I didnt understand the scene in the Police station and his conversation with Lala. HS is shown to be mature and knows what he is getting into. He is the one who was explaining to Mini the sensitive relation between a man & a woman especially ones with a past.... Why did he act as if everything came as a surprise?

Also, he still carries his feelings with Imarti so fresh.... how will Babita not have insecurities and not want assurance from the one person who can give it. Especially, when he has not conveyed in as many words that he loves her and wants her to stay.... something, anything

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Hey Arch21,

Thanks for penning your thoughts. Long but made lot of sense to me. Your point of view aligns to mine. To me Babita is an underdog. Too much importance given to HS and Minnie relationships which is great but to a limit. Babita has copped lot of negative press. It’s good to know there are some of us who’ve put ourselves in her shoes. 😁 I think I’ll get few on my head now 😉

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Originally posted by: ARCH21

Hello.

I am a silent reader here and have loved the show, the writing, characters and the acting. There has been much discussion in the last few days about Babita and her ego and HS and his hurt/love. I have enjoyed reading all comments and perspectives and just felt like sharing something from my side now -

Aniruddh Dave - Has been a fantastic actor and stayed consistent in every emotion, track or moment they scripted. He made us believe in HS's goodness, love, unlimited support and understanding.

HS - The character. I feel the PH has been inconsistent with this character. It seems that the character graph or certain story bends got written to bring out Aniruddh's brilliant acting.

PH - They have scripted Babita in reality. but it feels to me that they kept scripting HS scenes the way they did as they understood AD is connecting with the audience brilliantly.

I have few questions/thoughts on the character HS (keeping AD out of the equation).

Disclaimer - This is a very long note. I just had many thoughts :-)

Hanuman Singh -

1. He says Babita hurt him many times and he ignored. Am trying to understand when did she hurt him and why was he hurt.

- Camera incident - Babita was returning everyone's invested money. All were well-wishers. NB took hers but HS refused. The way he reacted, NB understood for the 1st time that he has developed feelings for Babita. Now NB could be society and anyone will assume he has a soft corner for Babita if he reacted in such a manner.

Babita was still on a journey to moving forward from the painful events in her life. Her past was still around her and she was in no mind space to love anyone else.

Any self-respecting woman in that situation, understanding that another man has started having a soft corner for her, will attempt to clearly draw boundaries. No one needs that complication at that particular juncture in life. it was way too soon and she was not ready.

When he got the Camera from the returned money, she didnt like it and asked mini to return it. do we not tell our kids to not take expensive gifts from others - be it friends or family. and HS is someone in whose house they stay. He is a support but it is all the more important to ensure that the boundaries are maintained when you are not ready.

HS got upset. I don't understand this. Did his love come with a condition that it should be reciprocated immediately and in the manner he wants? This can't be the case as he has been shown to be mature so she clarified the boundaries, he accepted, then why carry the hurt. She was not in the love phase and it is important to have boundaries when living in this close proximity.

2. Babita says 'Thank you' to HS which he doesn't like - I understand the feeling but again from her perspective she is simply thanking him for everything he keeps doing.

Babita is not compelled to fall in love just because HS has fallen in love with her. Even if Babita loves HS, she is not compelled to act on it. She is just coming out of her life events that happened just a few months back. It is all too soon so she is OK to draw boundaries. Why should this hurt the man who understands her too well and knows relations are complicated? And why is he carrying this hurt? Did it hurt his love when she didn't reciprocate or his ego?

3. HS says he doesn't want to change Babita. He wants her the way she is with all her past, insecurities, cracks and more.

- Then how on the 1st clear view of her insecurities (when she demanded the sorry), does he worry so deeply and talks about Amrit Manthan and him drinking the poison and fear if he will be able to live with it. This is a man who knows the sensitivities of their relationship. The fact that both come with a past and the fact that she has many pains and insecurities and was willing to accept her with all.

Babita didn't ask him to apologise with folded hands. She asked him to apologise and mean it. He chose the style of doing it himself. I feel the PH is stressing on Babita's ego as that's what they want to highlight but in Babita's situation, any real woman will have insecurities and not once has HS ever verbalised his love for her. It has all been implied (from both ends) but any woman (or man) needs to hear it. She chose this way to assure herself that he really loves her (maybe the wrong way but in a real person, there are many emotions going on within simultaneously, in any moment - it's not like we deal with one emotion at a time). It was her hurt at the words, her confusion, her insecurity (maybe about herself if she is really worthy of this new happiness) and insecurity and the need to know if he really loves her or will leave at the first sign of discomfort.

She really didn't ask him to apologise with folded hands. She simply asked him to apologise and mean it. The first time he apologised, it was like 'you have also hurt me many times but i let it go. You knew the circumstances and why I said what I said, but sorry'. Yes, she knows the circumstances now but words once spoken cannot be taken away. In this scenario, I would like the man to apologise on his own which he didn't so if it was me, i would feel 'taken for granted'. she doesn't want to be taken for granted this time. HS will not but she is protecting herself (it's a natural instinct).

You cannot erase the past and her current actions will have impressions of the past. At least till the point, she is fully confident of her new life. In this scenario, just knowing the man loves you is not enough. Human psyche runs deeper.

Being taken for granted - extended the point above, HS came in during the Puja, sat next to her and announced himself to Mini's father. All this in full public view. Irrespective of the bond between HS & Mini, babita is Mini mother. HS has not declared his love for Babita in words but announced himself to be mini's father and this without even asking the mother even once. All discussions post this tell us that the father-daughter bond is not dependent on Hanita bond, which is true. Then the question is when the father-daughter bond is not dependent on Hanita bond, how can Babita be sure that the Father announcement was his declaration of love for her? It was simply his declaration of his love for mini ! And he didn't even bother to ask the Mother before doing that. Extension of this - he comes back and pushes her away with the harshest words. The Father-Daughter bond continues after this. In all this, only Babita would feel completely taken for granted and left assuming many things.

She understands his hurt, the Imarti situation and what he was going through but she is a grown woman with a past not an optimistic teenager free to choose relationships. She understood his situation but he had hurt her below the belt so she cannot just jump in. She doesn't know if she will be pushed away if she did that or if he even wants that. A teenagers response in this situation and an adult's woman's response cannot be compared.

Mini asks her to come to NB's house and help the situation. She hesitates. Mini goes by herself thinking Babita has given up. Mini talks to SS and gets the letter to read. Against all emotions and hurt, Babita comes there by herself (she just took longer to make that decision but Mini had already left and Babita could have chosen not to come but she did). Babita helped, she translated the letter but kept a physical distance. This is the distance HS created and she maintained. How the hell will she erase this completely when SS leaves and just jump back into romance. It takes guts. HS has still not verbalised his feelings and she finally took a leap of faith by vocalising her intention. (She proposed). She knows he loves her but love is not enough to drive a relationship in the real world. She needed assurance. She didnt hide her hurt and told him she was hurt and expected an apology. This is not one-dimensional. It was not just about the apology, it was about reassuring herself, not being taken for granted, wanting to know for sure if she is his priority and if he will stand by her even in an uncomfortable situation. There were too many emotions in that one act. The PH is over-simplifying this and labelling this as EGO. Humans are not so shallow.

4. HS kept his ego aside and apologised with folded hands - He kept his ego aside and chose love. Then why feel bad about it? and bad to this extend? He knows her too well so he knows she has many insecurities especially after the recent experience and the messy divorce. She has stood strong, listened and learnt from everyone but acted on her own and brought herself forward in life. This is what he fell in love with. He didn't fall in love with perfection but a woman with an inner strength to learn & grow. Accept what life throws at her and face it.

When he tells Lala that she never got a chance to take out her frustration & pain of past experience so she took it out on me - he is right. No-one just comes out of her kind of experience in a blink. It is not a switch and she has simply been moving forward since. But have her emotions got any outlet. So her insecurities came out.

The only answer to insecurities is love. A strong love anchor (which HS was supposed to be) will heal insecurities with time. He has a lot of love to give so why is he suddenly afraid and why is the woman's emotions suddenly her ego?

He meant his sorry so why is he so upset (even till the next morning) that he is so low and doesn't want to join the chunni selection? Why show a feeling of 'what have I gotten myself into'? If his love is strong and he understands Babita, how can he not see her insecurities? and If he sees her insecurities, why is he so afraid of the future? He knew she will have many 'kharashe' and he wanted her with all - so why be so deeply effected at the first sign of it?

or was the PH trying to cash in on AD's brilliant acting skills to show him emoting angst, pain, tragedy?? and the outcome is simplifying Babita's emotions....

The PH and us all know that the 2 characters (Babita & HS) are written as love interests to each other but that doesn't mean the characters know that (or should know that). If HS does something sweet, Babita cannot be expected to reciprocate on the same level. If she doesn't, she has hurt HS!! But she doesn't know she is supposed to be HS's love interest in this story.....she is living her emotions and drawing boundaries.

You don't love with a condition to receive love back. So you shouldn't hurt if the other doesn't reciprocate as expected. If you are willing to wait and give space to the other person, then how can you be upset that the other is taking time to step over boundaries! I don't understand how Babita hurt HS by not reciprocating his love as and when he wanted. She was simply not ready.

And HS has been shown to be more mature than this so the up & down of this character's emotions do not fully feel justified now. And in life, you don't just go from one thing to next without any space in-between which is what Babita is required to do in this script.

btw, he is also the one who said - 'Imarti, imarti thi' and walked away in angst. The next day when NB mentioned that his words hurt Babita, his response was 'I don't think I said anything hurtful. she knows my past with Imarti'. If he doesn't think he said anything hurtful, he cannot understand the impact of them.

Babita - why is she expected to understand all this and absorb everything without even expecting a heart-felt apology? Yes, Imarti, Imarti thi. Babita just wants to know if 'Babita, Babita hai ya nahi'. Why over-simplify and call it ego?

Like Babita, too many thoughts in my mind too :-)

👏

Long but insightful and worth reading. We need to see things with different perspectives.

But the PH itself is labelling this as her ego. They want us to see this as her ugliness, her dark side.

Edited by Peace_Seeker - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chrys

Hey Arch21,

Thanks for penning your thoughts. Long but made lot of sense to me. Your point of view aligns to mine. To me Babita is an underdog. Too much importance given to HS and Minnie relationships which is great but to a limit. Babita has copped lot of negative press. It’s good to know there are some of us who’ve put ourselves in her shoes. 😁 I think I’ll get few on my head now 😉

Thank you for reading and sharing.

I kept feeling all through that Babita's graph was well-written as a real woman would go through. mini & HS are beautiful characters and great support to Babita. The theme of the story is for Babita to evolve and get wings and both Mini & now HS as well to act as catalyst. But it is Babita's story. I didnt feel she ever purposely hurt HS. Even when she ended up hurting, she had a logical thought or a real fear in her mind. Yes, she has to grow and everyone has her best interests in mind but it has to be her growth.....

I felt Mini's feeling & anger against HS for him falling in love with her mom was death with quickly to allow room for the love story to move forward and for Babita to feel more.....

Yes, the Mini-HS bond is beautiful but that cannot be the basis or the reason for Babita's decisions or emotions. I didnt feel she ignored anyone but their bond gave her the courage to act on her emotions. Left alone, she might not have proposed or taken that leap.... But while their bond gave her confidence, it didnt take her insecurities away..... you cannot wipe the slate clean

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Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".