Hanuman Singh - Page 9

Originally posted by: MaaneetDeewangi

I think he meant it like every time someone (you love) disappoints you, a part of you just dies. Not that he'll never be able to love again. He was probably not expecting Babita to behave the way she did regarding the jhumke and bring ego in between. On the phone she sounded way too excited and when he finally comes home he gets this, hence he said mere andar kuch mar gya.
He's extremely hurt and disappointed by Babita's actions so I fully understand why he said this.

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This is exactly what he meant. I fully fully understand him too.

Originally posted by: inlieu

He always has, until the night she refused to answer his questions about boundaries and then tried to stop him from drinking.

He has closed himself off after that, which goes against his nature. The more he bottles up for fear of hurting her the more he will feel suffocated.

He is a very straightforward person who doesn't like or appreciate hide and seek. Now he's doing the hiding and that's going to be toxic if it continues.

This is what he needs to stop doing cuz it pains me to see him like that 😭 💔

Pehle waala Hanuman wapas chahiye 😭

I know eventually we will but I hope it's soon! 😒

@TM - Firstly, thank you so much for your insightful post! It has gotten me to reconsider a few things about the previous episode.

I feel like others will be able to hold a more decent and insightful conversation with you than I can, but I would still like to throw in my two cents.

1. Is HS' love conditional?

No, it's not. He never expected Babes to love him back. He would have been content from loving her afar whilst maintaining a close friendship with her. Furthermore, he knew that Babes is not on the same wavelength as him when it comes to marital maturity. He has experienced all the ups and downs and knows how to navigate through the complications. Babes on the other hand, never really got that opportunity. To expect her to hasten her speed and reach his level is foolish. It will take her time and that's exactly what he had wanted to give her. It's also why I think he was wanted her to make the first move. He would always be ready for her, it's just a matter of if she's ready for him. Given the way the current track is proceeding, it's safe to say she's not a 100% there.

2. Why does it hurt him?

Him understanding Babe's position doesn't exempt him from feeling hurt. Just like the underlying reasoning behind HS' words didn't spare Babita from feeling offended, similarly, HS too, has the right to feel hurt whenever she speaks or acts harshly. You can't feel emotions in their singular format. There's always a mixture of other elements involved. When he made that poison comment, he had assumed that he would be all alone in it. Lala and Naeem Bi are there, but there's only so much that they can do. Besides, he can't involve them in all his marital problems. There will be some things that he will have to handle on his own. As for Minnie, his love for her prevented him from sharing his concerns with her, but being his true daughter, she had figured it out and informed him she's on his side. He had wrongly assumed that he would have to drink the poison alone because he's not alone. He has his brother, mother and daughter on his side, willing to help him out whenever he asks.

3. He doesn't want to change Babita.

No, he doesn't but that doesn't mean she won't. Babita is her own woman, undergoing her own journey. There are still some things that she'll have to figure out on her own, and that includes making some mistakes.

To believe that someone won't change over the course of their life is foolish. Heck, even HS himself has changed since Imarti died. He's not the same HS when Imarti was alive or before they got married. In Babes' case, it hasn't even been a full year since the whole Ashok fiasco went down. There will still be a lot of emotional entanglements she'll have to sort through before she can become stabilized.

4. HS kept his ego aside and apologized with folded hands.

As you mentioned, it was his choice to apologize this way. I can't really describe it since although it symbolizes a sincere form of apology, it also demonstrates the power dynamic. In this case, Babes was in power while HS wasn't. However, I don't really think he had an issue with this per say. Usually when one apologizes, the expectation is that all mistakes are forgiven and the wrong doer is now accepted with a clean heart. But that's not really what happened her. The apology, while it had held the potential to be sincere, got morphed into something ugly. It became a choice, a test which will decide how they live their lives going forward. If he hadn't apologized, then I don't know if Babes would have gone through with the wedding. If she did, then it would have been filled with a paranoia that one day HS would mistreat her like Ashok. But HS apologized and essentially told her that he would always choose her no matter what. Of course, we know that's not true as he too has his own limits, but that's the message that was delivered to Babita.

5. Other thoughts.

I don't know if I would go as far as saying that HS overreacted. I will have to rewatch the episode to see if I concur. That being said, both characters have acted in ways that has hurt the other a lot. Regardless of the intentions, or the stress factors that triggered such behavior, pain was delivered and felt on both sides. It's in the aftercare that they have fallen short and need to work on now. For that to happen, they need to communicate without any third party interference. If they keep neglecting their issues or keep sweeping them under the rug, it's going to blow up in their face in a very ugly manner.

The bike ride is a sign that they went to the Mandir for blessing by themselves and it was spoiled by Khatri hounding them on arrival but he was saved by Hs who stopped Babita but next time if Khatri says something to Babita and he may not be too lucky as he may get beaten up for sure.

Very insightful post, TM.

If Babita was wrong to make HS choose between his ego and love, HS was also wrong to have not told Babita later that this condition hurt him badly. He should have communicated with her what he felt, and how he is skeptical about the future. At this point, all they need to do is talk. Just talk. And everything will be resolved. CVS at this point are delaying their "talk", because I think they want this to linger around until after their wedding. I think as usual they are going to brush this under the rug, forget about it for sometime and bring it up later after they get married and have them deal with it, tackle it and sort it out. This is where the story is headed I feel.

Having said that, I don't think they are gonna show HS not happy with the wedding celebration. I think both Babita and HS will be extremely happy and I hope we get to see more light moments and romantic moments during this wedding celebration.

Hey Arch21,

very good analysis. I agree with all the points you made.

I feel they are changing story, all of a sudden they are showing Babita in a negative role, It looks like Babita has changed overnight. For 17 years she stayed with her in-laws without any support of her husband and managed it very well, took care of everyone, that time she didn't have any Ego! Ashok said babita was so perfact that he couldn't love her, and now Babita has become imperfect, how?

They are trying to show now Mini is Mahan, at 17 she understands everything, which is ridiculous.

I used to take active interest in writing on IF in others shows, there was a show on Colors few years back, After the shock of reading some post I stopped taking interest in reading post on IF. Most people worship Male lead, no matter what. So I gave up arguing.

I have said this before too, reaction for Babita's character has always been extreme. Hanuman is somehow always given the benefit of doubt, however wrong he might have been. No offense meant, I love HS's character too. But, Somehow, we refuse to give the same benefit of doubt to Babita. Babita is a sensible, nurturing person at the end of the day. I am sure she will come around, I will give her the benefit of doubt. I am sure she will surprise us all. This is a part of her journey after all.

Superb post. I completely agree with all your points. Writers have unnecessarily given too much highlight on this word ego the way they highlighted mitas past life and her relationship with her parents before her meeting ashok, just for the sake of her exit suddenly they started showing mita weak and stupid and ashok suddenly very abusive with her. I truly hope that makers dont mess with such a sweet person like babita.

Originally posted by: ARCH21

@Bold - Agree. I have liked the writing so far but feels like this track is not being set up right.

HS is not a child and he went in this with eyes open. He cannot be shown disillusioned to this great extend even before taking the first few steps.

I felt the whole lala conversation in last episode was extreme and off mark. He could simply have reflected on Babita's insecurities.

Originally posted by: Resham

They better sort this out and not cover under the rugs assuming chalta hai nahi dikhayenge to... PB audience is different... They themselves have spoiled this audience who have always craved for good stories on ITV.... Wedding should happen.. I want them to get married as they do deserve each other and I believe that it will be a very good marriage but all I want is the makers should make HS and Babita TALK among themselves and they should keep Mini away from this.... Let her be a girl... Let her be only their Daughter now.....