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Posted: 6 years ago

Yes its their story and their craft. Let's enjoy their storytelling. 😊😊

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Posted: 6 years ago

Also I feel they are rushing into too many things too soon... whatever be the reason... That's one of the reason it's not at times relatable to me atleast..

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: sunaina02

This is the answer for all your questions ( I agree with you ) and have given it in your write -up ( a great one ! 👍🏼)

or was the PH trying to cash in on AD's brilliant acting skills to show him emoting angst, pain, tragedy?? and the outcome is simplifying Babita's emotions...

Yes. AD has pulled the audience and emotes really well and the PH is using that to maintain connect....

But the story is about the woman's journey.... would be nice to see the woman's complex emotions brought out.... Zindagi Gulzar Hai brought this out through the diaries both write. external actions never convey the person's full feelings.... the inner workings of a human mind is complex. Others can label it anything but only you know what's really going on inside. like I said earlier - Human emotion is not one-dimensional. The audience is mature - Over-simplification is not always good.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

Yes we often relate to complex characters due to amazing in depth feelings they portray or understanding they generate despite their flaws... Whether it's jealousy, ego or anger..if writer has conveyed it onscreen beautifully with natural flow..one relates with them and forgives them ..more importantly empathize with them... Meeta was also portrayed beautifully till they simplified her character in end by making her Bechari and victim of circumstances in the end..

Exactly That's my point.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Peace_Seeker

Yes its their story and their craft. Let's enjoy their storytelling. 😊😊

Yeah let's leave at that then😊.. looking forward to what they show..

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Devilow0405

PH or CVs are just lumping every feelings,emotions of babita as ego,the way the portrayed Minnie”s and Hs’ feelings in the serial was more profound then they portraying babita’s Feelings. Every action ,word are given the name ego as if she is incapable of having any other feelings. Even when she said Hs has chosen ego over love is shown as her ego. As woman who is 48 years I find it highly insulting because what I understood from that scene was she was reassuring herself the love that her man had for her above all.

@Bold - My thoughts exactly..... There's too much going on inside Babita and it would have been beautiful to show even half of it without putting one label to it.....

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

Thank you for this post. It made me watch the episode on Monday when I thought of not watching the show for few weeks perhaps. I have been criticising Babita's character as well and I felt that whatever they have shown in that apology scene made her look insensitive to me. See I understand flawed and real women characters but it's also writing and screenplay that needs to make do an extra thing for people to understand them, relate to them and feel for them. I am okay with women having ego issues. I have too and yes I have suffered as well still that's my real me.. she deserved an apology ofcourse but my problem was her overlooking hurt that she caused him for that... When he apologized it's her reaction that bothered me... It was like victory by putting other person down..atleast it came out like that to me.. if PH has to justify so much on her ego as they brought out then obviously they missed to project what they wanted to show. .You find HS character inconsistent, I found Babita's character bit inconsistent .She is shown to have such deep understanding of things yet at times she comes out to be ignoring not only HS but Minnie's feelings at time .. both of them being very considerate of her feelings on contrary. Somewhere in need to show her growth PH has relied too much on efforts of Minnie and HS... Yes she got wonderful support but people sometime are not that lucky.. they need to grow themselves too in the end of it all. As a woman I understand her feelings and like you said i could understand her reasons for previous reactions but at this juncture after proposing to the man and trusting his love to move forward in life.. conditional apology and then reaction on that was where writers missed the mark for me.. I give them benefit of doubt.. as a flawed female lead I have even liked binodini's character in Tagore's choker Bali.. A woman cheating on her best friend's husband..it's just the beauty of writing that Tagore has which makes you relate with binodini more than ashalata. For me that connection with Babita wasn't made.. may be as you said focus was shifted to HS's feelings more due to AD's connect and acting that they explored complexity in his character while simplifying Babita 's reaction in ego..

Anyways watching the show and allowing them to tell their story further..

This is a talented group of writers but they are no Tagore. It's a beautiful story and has connected but it is no Choker Bali... But they did raise our expectations as we saw they understood human psyche .... Friday was a miss in screenplay... and a disconnect in dialogues..... therefore the reaction from the audience.... I still give them the benefit of doubt if they can form the balance between AD's brilliance and Babita's journey and not over-simplify emotions ....

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

The point about Babita's ego came early in the show a few times and more recently in ep 184 when Minnie confronted her mother's true reason for wanting to leave the haveli. It was discussed in detail and if you go back and watch things will make sense.

Also, I agree that her reaction after HS apologized was what ticked a lot of people off, that triumphant look on her face after making him bend, as opposed to relief and happiness that her insecurities had been in vain.

I want Babita to always stand up for her self-respect and dignity, not just as a woman but as a human being, as a parent, but in going overboard she might risk losing the very dignity she is trying to uphold. Slippery slope.

I think the Ego is a label everyone else gave to her actions.... it's other's interpretation of her actions. Even when Mini called it Ego, it was Mini's interpretation of her actions. I would read Babita differently in that situation but then it's my perspective..... However, her words to Mini (after the sorry) were a tiny reflection of her inner thoughts - she felt assured of his love, her joy that he didn't leave like Ashok... this is her deep insecurity... she wasn't feeling a sense of victory for making him bend....

it simply didn't come out in the screenplay and the audience reacted....

It would be nice to have a better view of Babita's inner workings.... flaws or no flaws....

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: ARCH21

I think the Ego is a label everyone else gave to her actions.... it's other's interpretation of her actions. Even when Mini called it Ego, it was Mini's interpretation of her actions. I would read Babita differently in that situation but then it's my perspective..... However, her words to Mini (after the sorry) were a tiny reflection of her inner thoughts - she felt assured of his love, her joy that he didn't leave like Ashok... this is her deep insecurity... she wasn't feeling a sense of victory for making him bend....

it simply didn't come out in the screenplay and the audience reacted....

Yes she had tears in her eyes and at the same time she was happy after the apology bcoz she got assured that he chose her and will never leave her as ashok did earlier. That's what her smile indicates.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: ARCH21

I think the Ego is a label everyone else gave to her actions.... it's other's interpretation of her actions. Even when Mini called it Ego, it was Mini's interpretation of her actions. I would read Babita differently in that situation but then it's my perspective..... However, her words to Mini (after the sorry) were a tiny reflection of her inner thoughts - she felt assured of his love, her joy that he didn't leave like Ashok... this is her deep insecurity... she wasn't feeling a sense of victory for making him bend....

it simply didn't come out in the screenplay and the audience reacted....

It would be nice to have a better view of Babita's inner workings.... flaws or no flaws....

This is the whole point. We have seen HS and Minnie introspecting, heck even NB but not enough of scenes of Babita doing so.

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