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Posted: 6 years ago
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OMG. I don't believe this. 😡 I typed out an entire long comment and analysis and it got deleted 😭. Now I have lost the motivation .😡 I'll take time later and do it
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fairy_KimBokJoo

This episode detailed the layers of Karna's personality in vivid detail! We got to see a generous, conflicted and determined man all in the same episode. We're seeing Karna, the character, through Uruvi's eyes...She is the narrator of his story... Overall, an intense episode riddled with some over the top moments!

I perfectly agree. This episode was perfectly in sync with Urvi's role as a narrator. She's more of an anchor of the ship called Karn. I loved the episode, but I had to agree some moments were highly OTT.😆 And, i again loved the adjectives you have used for him. Generous coz of the shoes, conflicted when he doesn't like what Duryodhan did, however determined when Urvi challenges him.
I think that is super realistic. Coz, even in life, we tend to get lost in the sea of confusion despite taking a particular course of action, not sure whether it is right or wrong until someone either agrees or strongly opposes it. Mostly the latter. We can't stand someone opposing our stance to something and justify it to them in turn justifying it to ourselves. and thus the confusion clears. Same is the case here. He probably still thinks it's wrong, however now he is more in terms with it and less confused and less conflicted coz now he knows why he is an accessory to something he believes is wrong too.
1. I keep saying this, Karna's characterization has been rather intriguing so far. We saw two specific moments of Karna tonight...almost contradictory. First, the man who offers his shoes to an injured servant. Second, the man who sticks to Duryodhan even as he proceeds to abduct Bhanumati.

👏👏 Brilliant. I think this intrigue is the same that Urvi feels too. I think Urvi's portrayal is so brilliant that when she is intrigued by Karn, the enigma, as is mentioned in another thread, she carries the audience with her. The audience feels the same intrigue and is as mesmerized by this man before us as she is. That's mainly coz in this episode Karn spoke pretty less. His expressions (I genuinely think he's got awesome expressions. 😆) and his actions spoke volumes. Even in inexpressive stoic nature just added to his allure I think.

Urvi indulges in major fangirling throughout the first half. This is simply how we female fans fangirl over heroes. Pretty simple on the surface but she's got sufficient reasons for this. 😆
The first part about the music thing, Karn, who's assured, who's the low cast rebel and who wishes to be seen as the outsider who can take the incumbent system by storm (the Rangbhoomi episode when his confidence stemmed from his low status), is wavering, shy, and embarassed slightly. And she is ever so delighted. When he says deliberating sufficiently that everyone would sleep, the entire room eupts in laughter. She looks at them, and laughs with a hint of pride if you noticed. Conveying that Karn, the fantasy man belongs to her. 😆 That was hands down the cutest thing in the episode.

The shoe thing - Danveer and all, our girl got floored. 🤪 I won't elaborate further.
2. I was worried that they're gonna intensify Karna's conflict re. his role in the abduction but I admire them for not overdoing it! He didn't ask a single question but supported his friend throughout...These are the grey shades that people speak of when they speak of Karna...

Now, to the next part. Here, I need to thank you. Immensely. Coz I was super confused as to what to assume and infer from Karn's silence. This is why I couldn't comment properly then. On one hand he came off as helpless and vivash etc. But your comment cleared my head. This is his grey nature. I am glad now he did not speak a word then, but showed his disapproval, was slightly shaken when Urvi told him it is wrong but he supported Duryodhan nevertheless. 👏
3. Yes, there were moments of sweeping angst when Uruvi tells him not to do this...but I liked how he instantly turned to leave when Duryodhan asked him to! He is a very determined man, he may be conflicted but he is very sure of himself and his decisions. I especially liked his reaction after Uruvi said, "I should've never sent Arjun away"... It reminded me of Darcy going all, "Wickham? Oh his misfortunes have been great indeed." 😆 Yes, I am gonna drag out this analogy! 😆

So what I think about this scene is what I have already mentioned in the beginning. i think this entire sequence of Karn's silence is through Urvi's eyes. In the hall, when Duryodhan forces Bhanumati, she immediately looks at Karn, coz he's her knight in shining arms, a man who is morally upright and superb in character. But he doesn't say anything. First crack to her hero worship. And when he openly stands against everyone in the way, and creates that arrow barrier, the image is cracking properly. It is broken at the end of the episode. So, when she says, I know you, you aren't like this. She doesn't know this man at all. She's barely spoken five lines to him. But, she knows the image he's got in her head. And, here she is NOT speaking to Karn, she's pleading and reasoning with the hero in her mind, coz she isn't okay in letting that image get shattered.
So, we see him speaking nothing. We don't even know whether the words she spoke in her heart even reached him, the same way she doesnt know that. That's coz it is her narrative. She doesn't know what he is thinking.
I think this scene, even though slightly slow, was brilliant because I got this inference from it. 👏
4. The moments in the wedding hall between Karna/Uruvi were charming as usual.. It's interesting how Uruvi is starting to see the shades of this man she is crushing on. Before this, the idea of Karna has been an untouchable, perfect fantasy for her...but she is beginning to see the man for who he. Complicated, conflicted and not all sunshine-rainbows! This, I feel, is the point of inflection between her schoolgirl crush and her future love.

Yes, I agree. I elaborated a little too much in the above Bold lines, I guess. 😆

PS, The scene in which Duryodhan abducts Bhanumati was way over the top, so was Bhanumati's irritating commentary on everyone.

I commented on all these ridiculous things in another post. Another thread I guess. 😆 Also, the absence of soldiers and guards in a palace, the king being helpless. Urvi acting mahaan etc. 😆

PPS, Mittals, Uruvi is not a Kekta bahu! Stop making her do things that seem outrageous...and limit her interference in everything! I appreciated the angst factor because it delivered the scene where Karna moves away from Uruvi to reach Duryodhan...setting up their future conflict...but Uruvi is not a daily soap bahu, please!

Kim, dear. Sorry for the late reply. I haven't even seen you in the Forum the past two days. Come back soon. 😉 Also, your Karn-Darcy image is growing on you. 😉😆😆 Good going! Sorry if my reply dragged long.
P.S. I have only referred to the said episode, not the episodes after when Karn rebuked and corrected Duryodhan.
Edited by najma123 - 6 years ago

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