What level of hypocrisy is this?

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Posted: 7 years ago
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If Kabeer does not have a ground to give talaq to Rukhsar, what ground did he have to give talaq to Zaara? At that time he just kept saying he had his reasons but never cared to explain just declared in front of witnesses that he is giving her talaq and now he has suddenly become good muslim and thinks upteenth times before giving talaq to Rukhsar?

And what is this nonsense about Zara not being granted Khula due to lack of valid reason. A man cannot even marry for a second time without the consent of his first wife,Kabeer did exactly that and not only can Zara ask for khula and be granted it but Kabir can also be punished for cheating his first wife by not having seeked her permission for second marriage and keeping it hidden until it came out in the open.

I was going to say I have not seen a bigger hypocrite than Kabeer but then CVs are such big hypocrites when it comes to manipulating religion as they choose, I can't put all the blame on Kabeer. I think Zara should go to the civil court if her religious court is being unbiased and doing injustice to her.I don't know the details but my understanding is that a court considers a second marriage in the presence of a first wife moot and void.

My respect has everyday been reduced for Kabeer since the talaq track and his conditional love for Zara but this getting married to a probable murderer who created havoc in your lives and became the source of harassment of your wife in all forms to save her sorry a** and then going on to hide this from your wife with the excuse of not having been able to say it because you did not want to hurt her is not at all acceptable for me no matter from which perspective I see it. This excuse can then be given by any man who cheats his wife! When she finds out he can simply say sorry dear, I knew you would be hurt if you knew I was seeing and sleeping with someone else so I didn't tell you.

This man of principle who was so honest that he broke his wife's heart by saying that he had slept with her out of a sense of responsibility happily got intimate with her now that he loves her without a thought that he had another wife sleeping in the next room. What he married Rukhsar for is not important but he is a religious man, right? And Islam does not permit any husband to treat his wives differently should he choose and the wives consent for him to have multiple wives. So if Rukhsar comes to him asking for her conjugal rights,will he be in a position to refuse? What is this with him being unfair to both his wives and CVs creating false dilemma in people's mind regarding Islam?

There is not a single reason for Zara to stay with a man who accepted her and showered affection on her only after she agreed to give up her principles for him and then went ahead to give up his own principles,manipulated his religion and married another woman without wife's consent and kept it hidden from her.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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That's exactly what has been bugging me. The blatant hypocrisy is too much to handle. How can a man who professes to love his wife dearly take a second wife who tried to kill her multiple number of times?
He said he would kill Ruksar for his love but he remains a silent spectator everytime Ruksar speaks nonsens to Zara.
He knows the extent of Ruksar's obsession and he just allows her to roam around in the house freely. Does he have no consideration for Zara's life?
What was Kabeer even thinking while agreeing for the nikkah if he didn't want to divorce Ruksar afterwards? Did he expect Zara to live her entire life sharing her husband?

Yesterday he said to Ruksar that he should have divorced her right away after saving her, so what's stopping him from doing so now? What is he waiting for? Zara's mental and physical health is deteriorating in front of him and he is not doing anything about it, why?
His words and actions doesn't make any sense at all to me.
And why is the khulla not being granted to her is just beyond me. The makers have lost it completely.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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What I do get is that when Zara and Kabeer are against each other, they both k ow all the Islamic rules and regulations. But suddenly when they should be fighting together on the same side none of them know the rules. Like mentioned before, does both Kabeer and Zara not know that the consent of the first wife is needed for the second marriage of a man? He is a maulvi and she has studied Islam. Where did both their k owledge go know? Okay fine forget that.. why doesn't shehar Kazi say anything about tht then? Does he not know either?? I'm sure if Zara states that fact that she wants khula from Kabeer because she was not asked for the consent of kabeer's Second marriage and therefore feel cheated is a more valuable reason than saying I don't want to share my husband nor his love so I want khula.

Sometimes it frustrates me how dumb all these characters act. I mean I feel like Ruksar is the only one who sticks to their character and role (the negative role who is after her one sided love)... and that has been her role from the very beginning. She has played the cunning and manipulative girl from the start. But like people like Kabeer, Zara, and Kazi Saab, who should know more about Islam pretends to not know anything and be confused at all times. If you are gonna play a character who has knowledge about certain things then don't be so limited with it especially with the main characters
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Dear from day one he is a hypocrite. He has always showed conditional love on Zara. He has only unconditional love on His Ruksar Begum. He admires her and her principles. According to him the women who wore burka is phaak so he got a phaak insan in his life why he want Zara I don't understand
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have been of the opinion all along that Kabeer is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen, he uses his religious knowledge only to his own advantage and has always treated Zara as a door mat and Ruksaar as some honest, virtuous goddess, it is so ridiculous that it is not enough for him that he is married to a murderer, I mean what bigger reason would you need to divorce someone, who would want to be married to a murderer, the CVs have completely lost it and making a mess of a beautiful show! Very very sad!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Everything that is being shown is so twisted manipulated and stupid. All characters conveniently know relgious rules and conveniently they are in a dilemma and none of them know what to do. Rukhsar and kabir marriage track was not needed and even if they have shown it. There's a very simple solution to this! It's a conditional marriage! Kabir didn't marry that dimwit out of love...it was only on the condition that it would save her life...ok cool so as qazi sahab said that the reason is over. Being a qazi how did he not know that kabir has the right to invalidate this wedding as it was conditional! What annoyed me the most is that Peer sahab happily just said it's taqdeer and what did he expect them to share their husband! That answer was plain dumb! He's dumb or what...he's also saying that it happened without anyone's will. Ok great! The only person happy about it was rukhsar! So if kabir is not happy with it...obviously he can divorce her. There is no reason for him to.keep this dumb marriage! I can't understand why CV's are manipulatinv everything to the advantage of Rukhsar. These are not religious teachings! This is just manipulation and hypocrysy to keep that peice of crap rukhsar between zaabir and increase their TRP but sorry this track cannot be stuffed down our throats illogically!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: beastmaster

That's exactly what has been bugging me. The blatant hypocrisy is too much to handle. How can a man who professes to love his wife dearly take a second wife who tried to kill her multiple number of times?
He said he would kill Ruksar for his love but he remains a silent spectator everytime Ruksar speaks nonsens to Zara.
He knows the extent of Ruksar's obsession and he just allows her to roam around in the house freely. Does he have no consideration for Zara's life?
What was Kabeer even thinking while agreeing for the nikkah if he didn't want to divorce Ruksar afterwards? Did he expect Zara to live her entire life sharing her husband?

Yesterday he said to Ruksar that he should have divorced her right away after saving her, so what's stopping him from doing so now? What is he waiting for? Zara's mental and physical health is deteriorating in front of him and he is not doing anything about it, why?
His words and actions doesn't make any sense at all to me.
And why is the khulla not being granted to her is just beyond me. The makers have lost it completely.



Most of the ITV serials stop making sense after some 50-ofd episodes and some like ISA go beyond repair. I won't be surprised if the next track is supernatural in nature. Don't the makers watch what they are making? How can they not see themselves contradicting themselves every step of the way. Since the moment Kabeer uttered talaq to Zara,I lost whatever little respect I had for him and the moment Zara actually returned to the house with the intention of trying to woo back Kabeer and save her marriage, I lost my respect for her too. Even now, she didn't leave Kabeer's home with her parents but then she is asking for Khula. Each and every character seems high on a combination of drugs while making decisions.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: annjose1998

What I do get is that when Zara and Kabeer are against each other, they both k ow all the Islamic rules and regulations. But suddenly when they should be fighting together on the same side none of them know the rules. Like mentioned before, does both Kabeer and Zara not know that the consent of the first wife is needed for the second marriage of a man? He is a maulvi and she has studied Islam. Where did both their k owledge go know? Okay fine forget that.. why doesn't shehar Kazi say anything about tht then? Does he not know either?? I'm sure if Zara states that fact that she wants khula from Kabeer because she was not asked for the consent of kabeer's Second marriage and therefore feel cheated is a more valuable reason than saying I don't want to share my husband nor his love so I want khula.

Sometimes it frustrates me how dumb all these characters act. I mean I feel like Ruksar is the only one who sticks to their character and role (the negative role who is after her one sided love)... and that has been her role from the very beginning. She has played the cunning and manipulative girl from the start. But like people like Kabeer, Zara, and Kazi Saab, who should know more about Islam pretends to not know anything and be confused at all times. If you are gonna play a character who has knowledge about certain things then don't be so limited with it especially with the main characters



You know, you are right. Rukhsar is the only relatively consistent character in the show.Kabeer and Zara have been absolutely hopeless since the talaq track first started but what is wrong with Kazi Saheb though? I don't remember him telling Kabeer that he can't divorce Zara without a valid reason and as he hasn't cited one therefore a divorce is not possible. Neither can I see his ground for refusing Zara a Khula.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: s_lover

Dear from day one he is a hypocrite. He has always showed conditional love on Zara. He has only unconditional love on His Ruksar Begum. He admires her and her principles. According to him the women who wore burka is phaak so he got a phaak insan in his life why he want Zara I don't understand



Kabeer is a hypocrite but what happened to Zara though? Why is she a doormat giving lectures about self-respect and women empowerment? I have never seen a more disempowered woman in my life! Her husband divorces her and she comes back crawling to his house in an attempt to woo him back into taking her back. For that she not just gives up on her self-respect by her repeated attempts at winning him back, she ,eventually also gives up on her principles thereby getting him to accept her. Now when she found out her husband married again without her consent (illegal in a civil court and permissible in islamic court only and only if permission of the first wife has been taken),she refused to leave the house with her parents but asking for khula now! If Kabeer divorced Rukhsar, did Zara plan to go right back to Kabeer overlooking how he has wronged her and cheated on her? Once Khula has not been granted, she gives tall dialogues but walks right back to the kitchen to fulfill her responsibilities of a housekeeper.And also, what is this walking on ashes to see if her love for Kabeer is strong enough or not? She is supposed to be an educated woman, right? Does she believe Kabeer cheating on her had something to do with her love lacking somewhere? Does she not realize that it is Kabeer who has taken one wrong decision after the other and it is he whose love holds no value at all. Why would she cause self-harm?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ananhita

I have been of the opinion all along that Kabeer is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen, he uses his religious knowledge only to his own advantage and has always treated Zara as a door mat and Ruksaar as some honest, virtuous goddess, it is so ridiculous that it is not enough for him that he is married to a murderer, I mean what bigger reason would you need to divorce someone, who would want to be married to a murderer, the CVs have completely lost it and making a mess of a beautiful show! Very very sad!



In real world, Kabeer would be considered a hypocrite and Zara obsessive. As disturbing as Kabeer's hypocrisy is, I feel Zara's obsession with Kabeer is more concerning. He divorces her, she comes crawling back to his home right away. He remarries, she refuses to leave his house with her parents. He doesn't divorce his second wife, she walks on ashes to see how strong her love for Kabeer is. I have always felt uncomfortable at Zara's love for Kabeer, it always felt too much to be normal. There is not a single thing about Kabeer to recommend him but not only that Zara does not see it, she treats him like some prized possession who is worth fighting for. But self-harm? Self-harm is a big no-no and is considered indicative of clinical depression. These things should not be shown in television unless you plan to show that the person does suffer from clinical depression.

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