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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sonia.KN

helooo Sonia KN😃 good to see you
What a wonderful analysis actually I was waiting for your post.The feeling you expressed in words are same they personified on screen.
it was a moving episode... clean and unadulterated by worldly ways
He is on 10 years Visa but he can't stay more than 6 months at a place. He has to come back. As one of the staff Kartar questioned where you will go ? He had no answer. Still he knew his ultimate destination is his Homeland/Motherland, but It is not gonna be homecoming for him.
I love your thought.. not homecoming for him..hope it is no more reference to the past.. but maa inlaw not there might create some ructions..

He didn't know some one is planning to drag him back as soon he will land.Not with physical presence but it is with Mannat Ka Dhaga. Which Zoya tied loosely but it landed in his hands. He tied it with tight knots or tied his soul.Now the hold is more stronger from Zoya's end that she can pull his tightly tied soul from other side of Dhaga.
this is a beautiful cross reference to an important bonding episode

When he was lighting candles the bright sun shine was coming inside. He was about to go but snuffled out candle stopped him.Like it was giving message lit me, I am new ray of hope for you, let the sunshine fall over you and the darkness will vanish in no time.
that was such a poignant scene... to keep hope going on ,, for at times things appear fine.. but one thing can tip the balance and create chaos in life

In India it was dark when Zoya lighted the candle and promised to self that she will always protect this light. Hence even if some time in future he will have to face darkness, there will be ray of hope for him as her.
hey Sonia 👏👏 well done for bringing this to my notice.. they were both in different time zones.. Paris is behind 6yrs to Indian ..

Coming to words of slogan Nobody Cares, Nobody Knows, these terms were traced like a outer circle. As outcomes of past events had encircled him. But there was one more term in straight line Never Regret piercing that circle in the middle. What ever happened, has happened so no need to regret. Symbol of rose inside circle has got a way to come out though narrow hole Never Regret made..His love is waiting, but the path to reach is too narrow. Still its high time for Home Coming.
again thanks for bringing it to my notice.. the no regret logo.. with both Adi and Zoya... their grief has been a learning experience for them.. thanks for your wonderful comment... The best bit is reminding me of some key things I over looked in the episode. ,, thanks for a lovely comment.. much love hammie

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sun2011

Wonderful post Ha let and comments too. Keep the posts coming whenever you can - will always look for it.

How are you sunshine😃.. Missed you... glad you showed up... I hate! being in a different time zone..😛... sneak in when I can.. thanks for reading and supporting my thoughts.. much love hammie
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Hamlet53 thanks for beautiful response darling
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

helooo Shruthi 😃 lovely to see you wise one😛
Beautiful post Hammie. I loved how you equated the yellow shirt of Adi to sunrise. And now that blue of Zoya made sense to me. I was thinking what that yellow and blue combination would have meant. You know 15 yrs back I had visited Darjeeling and had seen sunrise there. A scene so serene, so calming that even after so many years it still plays in front of my eyes
ohhhsounds surreal.. saw sunrise., in Turkey,from hotel balcony.. had a late hours flight.. the oranges, gold.. were amazing and than the blue clear skies reflecting the blue lagoon
. As we see the sun through the clouds, the color of clouds and valley become that shade of blue which Zoya had worn. It is not orange or yellow. It was a kind of beautiful blue. What Anjana throw away from her house was dawn. A new beginning. But the impact of her actions on the entire family will be shielded by Aditya. As he knows what she is.
thank heaven's he'll be there for Zoya.. we can expect that from Monday..
She is the color of sunrise, the color of hope. If you are spurning that color it is equivalent to spurning the sun itself. yes.. zoya is the guiding light for him.. as he is for him
Now coming to candle. You equated it at spiritual level. Yes it is, but for me it also symbolizes co existence, interdepedance and mutual understanding, similar metaphor is diya aur baati. The wick burns , baati too burns. Diya feels the heat, the stand on which the candle is kept also feels the heat. If oil is the love in diya aur baati, wax is the love in candle and the medium that holds it. Diya can be lighted with another wick and oil, similarly candle can light other candles. Basically it shows together a couple with love, understanding and trust bring light to everything that surrounds them. It happens through personal sacrifice and give and take. Though we see only the wick burning, the heat affects the other partner and without love or oil or wax the light cannot be sustained.
loved the comparison.. and you know that already Shruthi.. me watching DAB.. find the hard line of the MIL appalling... demeaning and cruel.. wish the lead would open her mouth.. but yes both DAB.. do burn together like the candle and the wick...
And the representation of lighting the candle was also represented in the seen and unseen realm. The wick that is seen is represented by Zoya as he lights the candle in a public place and the diya or stand who feels the heat is represented by Aditya as he was lighting it in a church. Once you see Zoya and you feel Aditya. And I am happy CVs are sticking to this theme very much.
yes Shruthi.. you outline their inner light and candle connection very well.. yes me to pleased that cvs are not throwing in romance.. on the double.. they need to let things grow between them gradually... we saw what passion led to.. distasteful to me.. Adi and Zoya's bond has to be on a higher level..pure and virtuous... thanks for a lovely feedback...😊..much love ,yours hammie

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: geetkumar

Hey Hammie!!
ohhh geetey.. sorry my online groceries arrived at my doorstep! so thure daaer se.. response..
Late or early doesn't matter, as long as you keep writing. Always waiting impatiently for your posts.

What a beautiful episode. CVs are on a roll. Spiritual episode indeed. In fact I thought that Adiya are talking to each other through God.
haan touch of Sufism...
In one of the early episodes when Aditya landed in a church, he was angry at god.
yes.. and thanks for casting my mind back.. it was like tum kush tu ho aaj type dialogue and he slept on the bench...
He was engulfed in darkness. But today he came to thank god for giving him a reason to smile. He himself lighted the candle. Zoya as usual the one with the inner glow. spreading light around.
When Aditya's candle was blown out, it felt to me that there might be turbulence in their relationship.
good point...👏 we can expect that ..the path of true love never runs smooth..
That he may back out or try to distance himself from Zoya when he realises that he is falling in love with her, but the scene changes and is shown Zoya protecting the flame, which might mean that she is not going to let him back out and going to hold on to him and their relationship firmly. Then again the scene shifts to Aditya lighting the candle again might mean he may try but will not be successful to walk away. Hence, will give in to his heart's desire.
great interpretation.. waise I expect him to resist pyar vyar... it was such a farce first time.. he ended up kicked in the teeth to put it brutally.. but yes should be interesting to see when he does succumb to her sincere devotion..
The song which played while Kartar Singh's phone rang was "Abhi na jaao chhod kar, ke dil abhi bhara nahin".
Geetey in UK they played the new theme song mere dil ko.. as a duet.. respectively on their faces.. the old song.. is history for me... the new song is Adiya song
They remembered each other, Aditya looked surprised and Zoya happy. I think he was expecting to see Pooja but It was Zoya whose memory took over completely. Have you seen kuchh kuchh hota hai? At the end of the movie "Tina closes Rahul's eyes and he sees Anjali." Aditya's reaction reminded me of that. shukar hai they didn't sound off the old song... its Zoya now in her Cricket gear.. loved those FBs... aur Pooja kaun hai???😛 ab tu Zoya ke baachi.. Galib khaien ki is chum chum every where,,,, waise geetey in her lal kapre French perfume ke model lag rehe the... me likes Zoya in pastel shades...
Arnoor's love will be the catalyst to keep Adiya together. Both are going to strive to convince their respective family. love Arjun... loads... yes.. they will
Anjana still has hatred towards Zoya and Wasim has strong dislike towards Aditya. So the voyage is going to be a turbulent one. Whether it is Arnoor or Adiya.
Anjana I predicted has this fear of her men being snatched away from her..
Wasim told Roshana that he is glad of the absence of Aditya from Zoya's life! Didn't he hear his daughter's speech?
good point.. he clearly had selective hearing and is in denial... after all that Adi did for saving Zoya's life..
I mean, she thanked her family and her employees in one line, whereas she kept on praising Aditya throughout! Wasn't he present? Doesn't he realises the importance of Aditya in Zoya's life? Look at the girl! She misses him so much that she has absorbed his traits, his characteristics into her own being.
👏👏 loved this bit geetey... khud ko bhula diya zoya na..😆 she picked up all his go get Tamesha's have to say ,Zoya to is bit of a rebel... was controlled to much!!
Who ever sees her says that she behaves like Adi. And here I thought the man as observant. Why dislike a man who has been there for his daughter when none was there, who has saved her life numerous times! Waseem.. is perhaps cautious .,she did screw up her life before... but that is when zoya was a kid.. now with Adi... she has come up in leaps and bounds
Anjana, at least I can understand, but wasim doesn't make sense!
thanks for a mind blowing feedback enjoyed it a lot...
*PS: Hammie I am unable to open your previous two posts. I have tried everything but failed. The massage shown is "This page cannot be opened". If you could help!!
which ones Geetey... aacha will go and check... should work now Geetey,, I missed a word in the title... sorry matey...
much love hammie...
Love Geet ❤️

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sonia.KN

@Hamlet53 thanks for beautiful response darling


ohhh my pleasure Sonia 😛... mera brain gets in ghajini mode some times... bas you remind me if I go astray!...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: SnehaDoll

helooo Sneha doll...😃 lovely to see you ..
I loved your analysis Hammie.
Especially the way u even tried attaching meaning to small things like yellow shirt to Sunrise , Candle to spiritual peace, associating color Orange to passion etc.
and u r absolutely right. It marks the beginning of new chapter in AdiYa's life.
And yea😆 Zo is keeping Adi's khurafati soul alive in her.
haaa haaa,,,😆😆 she sure is.. he knew under the shrinking violent jis ke awaaz bhi nehin niklati thi.. lives a rebel waiting to be unleashed!! thing is both have rubbed off on each other.. shows how much they mean to each other ,although they don't show it... good to hear from you.. Sneha much love hammie

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Very beautiful analysis ...loved your comments ...the entire week the writing the direction n the scene picturisation was marvellous ..with a one constant factor - the amazing chemistry of Jenny n Harshad ...it seems unbelievable that adiya are stationed miles apart yet the most moving love story is seen in the making ...hats off to the cv's ... the true impact of Zoyas words was made clear here ...Aditya had become a lifeles figire during six months ...Zoya had infused in him a fresh breath of life ...due to Zoya he was able to smile ... now being soulmates both came before God ..both used the same words ...drowning in tumultuous waters n both thanked the superior power as well as having each other in their life ...Zoya had him in his dua n likewise Aditya wished the Noor of happiness in the lives of his dear ones including Zoya in his inner circle ...
that is why due to her providing him a ray of hope he had become restless in Paris then .. due to Zoyas nner happiness n contentment travelling towards his soul he could not stay put in Paris any longer and ..and next he wanted to move to another place ...to start his journey of life but before that on his free will he wanted to thank God for rekindling of new hopes n for b ringing Zoya in his life ...remember Aditya had saved Zoya after her suicide attempt n now Zoya had saved the barely existing Aditya ...a lifeless person ...to once again embrace life ...a big favour by the benevolent God n bowling before Him was natural ... . Aditya had entered a closed building which showed his inner conflicts whereas Zoya was outside ...she was confident of facing the outside world ... the bucketful of symbols . We're shown ...the .earlier church visit was of deep hurt n turmoil ...no soothing music ...now Aditya had found some solace as Zoya s dua had already worked upon him...so in this visit he had lit the candles ...his going back to lit the snuffed out candle was again to show how he was in depression n now he would light up how life ...how he would not allow a single shadow of darkness in his lighted up church ...in a way he will ...with a new faith n hope instilled by the warmth of Zoya s words n dua for him ...take steps to face up the world ... . Zoya had already become strong confident n she wanted to thank for her happiness n also for Aditya who was the reason for her re birth into a happy contented capable business woman ... Aditya had packed his memories. Zoya photo in his bag ...it was dear to him. maybe his only ray of hope in his self imposed exile in Paris ...he was also packing a yellow shirt to show that now he was ready to be himself ...
armed with his sun shine Zoya s wishes for him unknowingly he was travelled towards her though he did not say it ..and also that he was moving from Paris to undertake another safar ...He had understood that if Zoya who was earlier in deep darkness n derpair could rise up n shine ...likewise there was hope for him n so no point in staying holed up in paris ... the song was soothing to him now but surprisingly he saw Zoya s face instead of expecting sad reminder of Pooja ...that had jolted him ...Zoya had already accepted Aditya role in her life n she was happy with her memories she was blushing ...the play of colours orange red yellow was intentional ...in Paris Aditya was in greys ...in precap...in yellow ...Aditya himself would bring life n love back into Zoya life and at least he had taken steps to be with his love And Zoya ...she had already hatched up a plan to bring her sun ...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mm250314

helloo mm😃 was missing your comment.. just noticed 😃

Very beautiful analysis ...loved your comments ...the entire week the writing the direction n the scene picturisation was marvellous ..with a one constant factor - the amazing chemistry of Jenny n Harshad ...it seems unbelievable that adiya are stationed miles apart yet the most moving love story is seen in the making ...hats off to the cv's ...
yes and its done in an unhurried manner.. that lends it credibility
the true impact of Zoyas words was made clear here ...Aditya had become a lifeles figire during six months ...Zoya had infused in him a fresh breath of life ...due to Zoya he was able to smile ... now being soulmates both came before God ..both used the same words ...drowning in tumultuous waters n both thanked the superior power as well as having each other in their life ...Zoya had him in his dua n likewise Aditya wished the Noor of happiness in the lives of his dear ones including Zoya in his inner circle ... yes you rightly comment.. their silent confession is before a spiritual deity. which never mattered to Adi.. but he has a reason to relate to god now..thanks to Zoya
that is why due to her providing him a ray of hope he had become restless in Paris then .. due to Zoyas nner happiness n contentment travelling towards his soul he could not stay put in Paris any longer and ..and next he wanted to move to another place ...to start his journey of life but before that on his free will he wanted to thank God for rekindling of new hopes n for b ringing Zoya in his life ...remember Aditya had saved Zoya after her suicide attempt n now Zoya had saved the barely existing Aditya ...a lifeless person ...to once again embrace life ...a big favour by the benevolent God n bowling before Him was natural ...
Paris,, as in the rest of Europe,, churches and chapels are fantastic artefacts of Catholisim and are landmarks of national heritage.. so it was so natural for Adi to visit a church. light candles and for their inner lights to converge !
. Aditya had entered a closed building which showed his inner conflicts whereas Zoya was outside ...she was confident of facing the outside world ... the bucketful of symbols . We're shown ...the .earlier church visit was of deep hurt n turmoil ...no soothing music ...now Aditya had found some solace as Zoya s dua had already worked upon him...so in this visit he had lit the candles ...his going back to lit the snuffed out candle was again to show how he was in depression n now he would light up how life ...how he would not allow a single shadow of darkness in his lighted up church ...in a way he will ...with a new faith n hope instilled by the warmth of Zoya s words n dua for him ...take steps to face up the world ... . Zoya had already become strong confident n she wanted to thank for her happiness n also for Aditya who was the reason for her re birth into a happy contented capable business woman ..
well narrated mm.. the cv's offer scenes rich and profound in content ..open to much interpretation. This has to be another strength of the show
. Aditya had packed his memories. Zoya photo in his bag ...it was dear to him. maybe his only ray of hope in his self imposed exile in Paris ...he was also packing a yellow shirt to show that now he was ready to be himself ...
armed with his sun shine Zoya s wishes for him unknowingly he was travelled towards her though he did not say it ..and also that he was moving from Paris to undertake another safar ...He had understood that if Zoya who was earlier in deep darkness n derpair could rise up n shine ...likewise there was hope for him n so no point in staying holed up in paris ...
this is a fine observation.mm.😊
the song was soothing to him now but surprisingly he saw Zoya s face instead of expecting sad reminder of Pooja ...that had jolted him ...Zoya had already accepted Aditya role in her life n she was happy with her memories she was blushing ...the play of colours orange red yellow was intentional ...in Paris Aditya was in greys ...in precap...in yellow ...Aditya himself would bring life n love back into Zoya life and at least he had taken steps to be with his love And Zoya ...she had already hatched up a plan to bring her sun ...
by now you must has ascertained UK viewers were spared of that obsolete song.. me was loving their reaction in FB s of the cricket game..mm I LOVED that episode both Harshad and Zoya looked out of this world in their cricket game kit..😃... I wanted a siggy of that game.. Yes Monday we'll see the sunrise.. all will be lit up !! thanks so much for your much missed feedback mm... much love hammie

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hammie actually I loved they used Abhi na jao. Reason the song was old, but the memory new. It showed a tectonic shift in the way Adiya has started thinking about each other.

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