IB Offscreen Drama: Where Gul is Going Wrong & Where Fans Are

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Haters and Bashers please stay away. If you have a differing opinion, please state it without succumbing to mocking/bashing or anything that's outright negative. State your point in a civilized manner. Discussions between different fandoms should remain cordial (at least 😆). I'm fully capable of removing and reporting my own post if a fan war starts here.
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As probably one of the oldest fans of IB here, I honestly don't know the direction this show has taken recently. I've always stated that I don't care about much else except ShivIka but since there's a dearth of that onscreen and offscreen, unfortunately - I have to get this outta my system.

Gul Khan states that we should focus on the positive fans. Gul Khan - in her posts and responses to fans on social media - completely ignores the positive fans. Gul Khan says that she's okay with positive criticism. Gul Khan, in her responses, either never responds to criticism that makes sense or manipulates it in such a way that even the best of feedback comes across as negative. Gul Khan says she's making the show for TRP people and therefore, she owes no explanation to onliners (who, btw, have won her show every award last season). Fair enough. But are her tactics winning her TRPs? Nope.

My problem with Gul is that if an opinion is coming from an online fan, she perceives it as negative and as a personal attack on her "creative abilities". She mocks the onliners yet acts exactly like them, if not worse - hating back in revenge, acting like a little child with the onscreen story and showing things with the sole reason of pissing people off, never appreciating with as much passion as the hate. What's the difference, really Gul? Looks to me like we're no different, after all.

Time and time AGAIN, TRPs have shown that IB works best only when there's, at best, one week of groupbaazi and then everyone goes back to their personal relationships for a good 3 weeks, at least with ShivIka as the center of attention.

I will sound like a broken record here - but if the track isn't mainly focusing on ShivIka - it may see a bit of an initial jump, but it will eventually fizzle out. Gul isn't dumb, I think she knows that but understandably, she can't say that out loud. Fine by me. But why so adamant at sinking your own ship? Is your ego really bigger than ALL else?

That kick on the face seemed like a LITERAL kick for fans. I dunno if I'm reading too much into this but it REALLY did feel like she was telling us to go eff ourselves because she can do whatever she wants. If she's so ziddi about selling Bhavya - FINE.

I honestly haven't cared too much about the RuMya/RuVya angle lately, anyway. But how about she actually GIVES Bhavya a story line which makes us like her? She hasn't exchanged three words with Rudra since the wedding began. When she first came, I actually LOVED the idea of an older, female cop for Rudra but ever since then, she's been nothing but talk.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Gul - Just doing Bhavya, Bhavya, Bhavya isn't going to bring you TRPs, TRPs TRPs. You know what brings the numbers and I have no idea why you're stretching it out/avoiding to show it for so long. A few months ago, if someone had told me it's just because of her ego, I probably wouldn't have believed them. Not so sure now.

Coming to the other side of the story - Mansi.

I'm sorry but the personal attacks on the ACTOR are where fans are going wrong. You're pissed about the track, I get it. You don't wanna see her onscreen, I get it. Her character literally has nothing to offer except to satisfy Senior madam jee's dinosaur sized ego, I AGREE. She's an average actor at best, I AGREE.

But she's also a real person. With feelings and sentiments. So comments that personally target her - where fans mock her for coming in the frame offscreen with other actors or mocking her natural looks or the way she eats (yes, that has happened) - it's TOO MUCH.

In the article released over the weekend and then the tweets in which she was defending herself, you can see the hate's getting to her and she lashed out back at fans (I honestly don't think she was talking about Annika in anyway but that's just MY OPINION). Was it childish? Yes. But for me personally, it isn't unfathomable. It's exactly the way fans have been reacting, too.

I don't wanna draw comparisons here because then this post will totally go somewhere else, but we all know how much our favs were once mocked, too. It doesn't feel good. And in some cases, the hate sticks for a longer period of time.

So you hate her acting, let her know that. You hate how she dresses ONSCREEN, let her know that. You think Bhavya is a waste of space, that's fine. But please differentiate between the ACTOR and the CHARACTER.

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P.S. Will post replies a bit later. Sorry for the delay.

Again, keep your hate comments/indirect or direct mocking/fazool ke arguments etc etc to your self. 😆 Anything I deem too intolerant, I won't respond to and will request others to ignore, as well.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I'm at a lost on what to comment 😆
So taking a big breathe, just chant 'bhavya, bhavya and bhavya'😆

People are completely disconnected from the show, story is nil. I won't go into fanwars, but last year majority of rikara fans left the shpw. Majority shivika fans have been watching the show patiently since vanwas.
But right now we are at a phase where even shivika fans are going away, as seen both here, on twitter n IG. Just see our forum ranking- no5... something which has never happened ever.

Its pointless now, gul is lost in her own world, harneet is in mode 'dont care'😆

I wonder about that positive comments gul is receiving lately😆

Anyway show is going down the drains, fans are complaining, some very humbly and some a bit badly, however Gul doesn't care at all.

Lol ending on don't worry keep chanting 'bhavya, bhavya and bhavya'😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Well said and we'll written
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Gul lets be real has not been either interested or invested in ib for a while now, even when ib was at its peak and raking in both trps and the money and attention that came with said trps. Instead of reinvesting in her profitable product and stablize it, she started spending that money on new projects, a rookie buisness mistake that has come back to bite her. Now its catch 22 for her she stick to her guns and let the sink ship slowly but surely or admit that she made mistakes with ib and miscalculated a lot of things. Right now with sp revamp ishqbaaz is rumoured to go off air in june so she is using it as carte blanche to do whatever she wants. I dont expect good things in the future.
Coming to Mansi attacking actors personally is wrong but her comments were also in bad taste especially when not only the situation was hot but also when she is aware of how the fandom reacts to things.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Bringing Bhavya into the Rumya story was self-defeating. But how do you make the makers understand?
People watch entertainment to be entertained. So at the very least, a serial has to be interesting. The makers don't have to tell the story the viewers want. They can tell their own story, but it must be interesting, captivating even. Otherwise viewers will leave when they get a better option.

The serial was supposed to be the story of three brothers. Great. Then how come there is no character growth in Om and Rudra? It has been 500 (?) episodes, but Rudra is still the Rudra we saw in episode 1. Married once, about to marry a second time and he has no clue of responsibility, of consequences of actions like making Bhavya lose her job. It is his wedding and he is standing in the background while villains plan and plot and his bhaiyya bhabhi find solutions to his and others' problems.

And Bhavya. The makers didn't even waste minutes thinking about giving her a believable past or a logical story. 15 years old. LOL! Ex-ACP. Marrying the man who destroyed her career. Least bothered about Sultan-Sultana now!!! The don-Sundari bua scenes were more entertaining than Bhavya scenes.

Nothing, absolutely nothing is happening in Om-Gauri's life. There was so much scope for story-telling. Gauri's past is a mystery to Om. Om's past is a mystery to Gauri. Then we have the Chutki angle to explore.

But will the makers give us interesting tracks? No. We are stuck in a mudhole with veer, Svetty, Tia who can't decide if she is good or bad, Soumya tendulkar/Kapoor who suddenly became a bad angel, a toothy bua, a fireboy and his wife who have vanished, a Kalyani Mills Raaz that has been been around for so long that it has lost its kick...

I don't know why the makers brought Soumya back. Maybe it was punishment for the viewers demanding her return. The kick that a Bhavya who can't act placed on Sumo (who can act)'s face was a kick the makers laid on the viewers' face.

IB is in serious danger of losing viewers. I hope the makers pull their socks up and get back to telling an interesting story instead of feeding their egos, pushing their favourites down the viewers' collective throats, and abusing abusive viewers.

All the main characters in the serial (except the villains and Bhavya) are played by incredibly talented actors and actresses. It is a shame to see them going waste, especially when there are viewers wanting to watch them. Sigh!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Online fans continue to ask the PH for their favourites out of attachment to the actors they like or for the couple, but the TRP viewers simply use their remote as adviced by the producer herself - there are 800 other shows, shows come and go etc! 😆 IB viewers (TRP) are not as loyal as EK show viewers, they'll stick with the show if the tracks are relatively good , if not leave, can come back too if it gets better!!

As for the actor, I dislike her explanation and subsequent ones as much as I dislike the scene itself ! It was factually not correct to say that if it was some other characters, there wouldn't any criticism. Till date the most criticised/bashed/trolled character is Shivaay and close second Anika. The actors playing the respective characters were criticised too. The forced shaadi scene , Anika touching Daksh's feet , scenes that were pointed out to be wrong ! Pita mata jo bhi ho , what all names Shivaay' been called 😆

And if it's Bhavya Bhavya n Bhavya , then why there isn't one memorable scene of the couple who are about to be married, it's been three months almost , apart from getting some good outfits and an assurance that the end game is Ruvya what exactly are they getting? Most of the time is taken to establish Saumya's story so far was fake !! 😆

In her explanation she said, bhavya facing so many criminals , I don't remember one case she solved conclusively! Here too the truth about Saumya was discovered by KRR , obros made Saumya confess , she only came in for the kick ! And uttar mattar case too she couldn't solve, instead she thought there's a possibility the kid is Rudy's 😆
See so many things don't add up , neither the scene nor the explanations!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Rish, Gul should stop being a producer & go back to directing or whatever coz she neither has the business sense nor basic courtesy.

She is ditching IB again for her new project & has gone too far this time. She can not disregard the show which got her out of bankruptcy time & time again & demean NarBhi, they always rise above the mediocre script & get the numbers with the right dose of supporting cast.

Everyone deserve the credit for the show's success but not everyone can claim equal credit 🤔

As for the other actress, yes she is human & is hurt by her character's trolling & bashing. As per me people in showbiz should have thick skin to tolerate all this if not find another profession. Liking comments on show getting closed, mocking & things, playing victim card & acting foolish will not gain any sympathies from me 🥱
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Gul tells media that the fans trolls should be ignored and advice media to not take them seriously but herself jumps to react to those trolls desperately and retrolls the online fans by showing shit on the TV as if trp aunties doesn't matter to her but she always tells online viewers doesn't matter.

Recently she creates stuff only to take revenge on online fans,she doesn't care for her own money,her own show ignoring even trp aunties,who is going to be at loss?We viewers move on after some time but she is the one going to loose as she can't get this previlage for any show in future like Ishqbaaz,so she looks childish,dumb,foolish to me by ruining her own creation playing these childish games rather than focussing on what is needed.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: OyeNautanki

Rish, Gul should stop being a producer & go back to directing or whatever coz she neither has the business sense nor basic courtesy.


She is ditching IB again for her new project & has gone too far this time. She can not disregard the show which got her out of bankruptcy time & time again & demean NarBhi, they always rise above the mediocre script & get the numbers with the right dose of supporting cast.

Everyone deserve the credit for the show's success but not everyone can claim equal credit 🤔

As for the other actress, yes she is human & is hurt by her character's trolling & bashing. As per me people in showbiz should have thick skin to tolerate all this if not find another profession. Liking comments on show getting closed, mocking & things, playing victim card & acting foolish will not gain any sympathies from me 🥱



She is not ditching IB or its viewers she is ditching herself😆 as we viewers already moved on from the show and on the verge of forgetting the show(not Shivika), she is the one going to loose,so she looks foolish atleast to me😆.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Agree with everything you said. Gul is gul and not gonna change now.
About Mansi yes people need to differentiate between reel and real.
Its unfortunate and sad that Mansi getting such hate but I disagree from her latest defense.
Latest hate she invited herself(My Opinion). She could've simply replied without saying that if kick was from other character then fans would've liked it. Did she really think that fans will like that? & what she meant by other character. Ok I agree it might not be annika but she did mention about other character (which was not required) and this instigated fans. She could've simply said it was in script but even though if she wanted to defend that act, she need not to mention about other character because none of fans would've liked it even though it was Shivaay annika or any other character.
Then again in defense, she tagged actors which was so uncalled for and not at all needed.
From start of show, the hate/bashing Nakuul and Surbhi have got and still getting specially Surbhi, but none of them have brought any other character anytime in their interviews to defend themselves or for anything. So yes fans are wrong but somewhere Mansi is responsible for latest bashing.

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