IB Offscreen Drama: Where Gul is Going Wrong & Where Fans Are - Page 2

Originally posted by: SRKisLove

Er, I hope my post does not spark off a debate and/or unnecessary fanwar.

Anyways, the thing is, I think, and no offense to any fans, but TRP in general comes from storyline. I mean, look at YHM, its not really selling good stuff, the same sort of nonsensical tracks. And its definitely not the couple or the romance which brings them numbers. People do not watch for Raman-Ishitia's love story, but in general for the story. Because the story is interesting. High drama + coherent story which is progressing in some direction.

TBH nobody knows that TRP aunties want. TRP just measures choices for 10% of television sets in the country. And thats a really low number of audience.

I understand why there are villains, because every show needs a villain to bring in the drama. But IB has too many villains now. And it doesn't make sense also because the whole thing is going in circles.

I think Gul's first mistake was launching IPK3 when IB was at its high point. Her entire focus shifted to IPK3. She needed crew for IPK3 so she took the crew out of DBO, and transferred it to IPK3 (eg. Atif).

But IPK3 turned out to be a disaster. Gul should have waited imo, wrapped up IB/DBO (separately) by around November-December, and then started IPK3 this year.

'Cos clearly this lady cannot handle multiple projects at the same time. She was having a tough job handling IB and DBO, and consequently DBO suffered. Instead of curing DBO, she started IPK3 and added to her headache.

Her second mistake, as regards Shivika, was when she listened to online fans. Online fans went mad at Shivika separation and created a huge brouhaha over Aditi and Ankit's entry. Thats why two weeks after separation we see Anika coming back into the Oberoi Mansion. Gul had a golden chance to give Shivika a proper angsty, separation track. But she blew it all up, made Ragini a clown and Ankit left the show, so well we don't know what Samar track would have been like.

DBO was merged just when the track for Rikara was going to get good. Rikara track did improve in 40 mins post-mereger IB, they had no villains and actually dealt with real issues. But also they had no screenspace. Its only ShreNal who could convey emotions in like 2 mins, otherwise Rikara would have fallen flat. As it is after the Bareilly track in November, Rikara fans left, and the TRPs also started dropping, until the drama quotient was brought up with Vanvaas track.

The worst was the whole Tej-Jahnvi-Svetlana track which went on for weeks and came to nothing. No fandom cared about that, no online audience cared about, and till date we do not know the purpose of that track. It was just some nonsense forced in the serial.

I really feel there was some change in the writers in the merged IB (+DBO). Some ghapla happened which we don't know.

I just think as a production house 4Lions is really bad because it does not take tough decisions like getting better writers or retaining good ones.

Coming to fans, yes some fans go overboard in abusing, but Gul also stoops low in responding.

Obviously this lady does not have the dignity to conduct herself as a producer.

Also, coming to Bhavya, please don't get me wrong but really there is something weird about the character. Before her introduction, DBO was doing okay not great but still managing, and doing way better than other shows in 10.30 slot on SP. But after her track started the tv audience just started leaving.

The same thing happened with 40 mins merged IB, I dunno I somehow feel that Ruvya track did not go well with tv audience even here.

Whatever happens, the actors do not deserve the hate they are getting, they are just doing their job and going home. People should not bash/mock them. Especially not make fun of how they look or giving them death threats (which has been done by all fandoms).

So whoever reading this, please stop wishing bad for actors, who are real human beings.

P.S. No point replying to my post, because I won't be replying back, or even checking this thread again. I had to write my view and so I wrote it. But I don't expect any decent replies. So, hasta la vista, kaju badam pista!

Originally posted by: SRKisLove

Er, I hope my post does not spark off a debate and/or unnecessary fanwar.

Anyways, the thing is, I think, and no offense to any fans, but TRP in general comes from storyline. I mean, look at YHM, its not really selling good stuff, the same sort of nonsensical tracks. And its definitely not the couple or the romance which brings them numbers. People do not watch for Raman-Ishitia's love story, but in general for the story. Because the story is interesting. High drama + coherent story which is progressing in some direction.

TBH nobody knows that TRP aunties want. TRP just measures choices for 10% of television sets in the country. And thats a really low number of audience.

I understand why there are villains, because every show needs a villain to bring in the drama. But IB has too many villains now. And it doesn't make sense also because the whole thing is going in circles.

I think Gul's first mistake was launching IPK3 when IB was at its high point. Her entire focus shifted to IPK3. She needed crew for IPK3 so she took the crew out of DBO, and transferred it to IPK3 (eg. Atif).

But IPK3 turned out to be a disaster. Gul should have waited imo, wrapped up IB/DBO (separately) by around November-December, and then started IPK3 this year.

'Cos clearly this lady cannot handle multiple projects at the same time. She was having a tough job handling IB and DBO, and consequently DBO suffered. Instead of curing DBO, she started IPK3 and added to her headache.

Her second mistake, as regards Shivika, was when she listened to online fans. Online fans went mad at Shivika separation and created a huge brouhaha over Aditi and Ankit's entry. Thats why two weeks after separation we see Anika coming back into the Oberoi Mansion. Gul had a golden chance to give Shivika a proper angsty, separation track. But she blew it all up, made Ragini a clown and Ankit left the show, so well we don't know what Samar track would have been like.

DBO was merged just when the track for Rikara was going to get good. Rikara track did improve in 40 mins post-mereger IB, they had no villains and actually dealt with real issues. But also they had no screenspace. Its only ShreNal who could convey emotions in like 2 mins, otherwise Rikara would have fallen flat. As it is after the Bareilly track in November, Rikara fans left, and the TRPs also started dropping, until the drama quotient was brought up with Vanvaas track.

The worst was the whole Tej-Jahnvi-Svetlana track which went on for weeks and came to nothing. No fandom cared about that, no online audience cared about, and till date we do not know the purpose of that track. It was just some nonsense forced in the serial.

I really feel there was some change in the writers in the merged IB (+DBO). Some ghapla happened which we don't know.

I just think as a production house 4Lions is really bad because it does not take tough decisions like getting better writers or retaining good ones.

Coming to fans, yes some fans go overboard in abusing, but Gul also stoops low in responding.

Obviously this lady does not have the dignity to conduct herself as a producer.

Also, coming to Bhavya, please don't get me wrong but really there is something weird about the character. Before her introduction, DBO was doing okay not great but still managing, and doing way better than other shows in 10.30 slot on SP. But after her track started the tv audience just started leaving.

The same thing happened with 40 mins merged IB, I dunno I somehow feel that Ruvya track did not go well with tv audience even here.

Whatever happens, the actors do not deserve the hate they are getting, they are just doing their job and going home. People should not bash/mock them. Especially not make fun of how they look or giving them death threats (which has been done by all fandoms).

So whoever reading this, please stop wishing bad for actors, who are real human beings.

P.S. No point replying to my post, because I won't be replying back, or even checking this thread again. I had to write my view and so I wrote it. But I don't expect any decent replies. So, hasta la vista, kaju badam pista!

Originally posted by: Michmichi

Online fans continue to ask the PH for their favourites out of attachment to the actors they like or for the couple, but the TRP viewers simply use their remote as adviced by the producer herself - there are 800 other shows, shows come and go etc! 😆 IB viewers (TRP) are not as loyal as EK show viewers, they'll stick with the show if the tracks are relatively good , if not leave, can come back too if it gets better!!

As for the actor, I dislike her explanation and subsequent ones as much as I dislike the scene itself ! It was factually not correct to say that if it was some other characters, there wouldn't any criticism. Till date the most criticised/bashed/trolled character is Shivaay and close second Anika. The actors playing the respective characters were criticised too. The forced shaadi scene , Anika touching Daksh's feet , scenes that were pointed out to be wrong ! Pita mata jo bhi ho , what all names Shivaay' been called 😆

And if it's Bhavya Bhavya n Bhavya , then why there isn't one memorable scene of the couple who are about to be married, it's been three months almost , apart from getting some good outfits and an assurance that the end game is Ruvya what exactly are they getting? Most of the time is taken to establish Saumya's story so far was fake !! 😆

In her explanation she said, bhavya facing so many criminals , I don't remember one case she solved conclusively! Here too the truth about Saumya was discovered by KRR , obros made Saumya confess , she only came in for the kick ! And uttar mattar case too she couldn't solve, instead she thought there's a possibility the kid is Rudy's 😆
See so many things don't add up , neither the scene nor the explanations!!

Originally posted by: ashti1234

I'm at a lost on what to comment 😆

So taking a big breathe, just chant 'bhavya, bhavya and bhavya'😆

People are completely disconnected from the show, story is nil. I won't go into fanwars, but last year majority of rikara fans left the shpw. Majority shivika fans have been watching the show patiently since vanwas.

But right now we are at a phase where even shivika fans are going away, as seen both here, on twitter n IG. Just see our forum ranking- no5... something which has never happened ever.

Its pointless now, gul is lost in her own world, harneet is in mode 'dont care'😆

I wonder about that positive comments gul is receiving lately😆

Anyway show is going down the drains, fans are complaining, some very humbly and some a bit badly, however Gul doesn't care at all.

Lol ending on don't worry keep chanting 'bhavya, bhavya and bhavya'😆

Originally posted by: ashti1234

I'm at a lost on what to comment 😆

So taking a big breathe, just chant 'bhavya, bhavya and bhavya'😆

People are completely disconnected from the show, story is nil. I won't go into fanwars, but last year majority of rikara fans left the shpw. Majority shivika fans have been watching the show patiently since vanwas.

But right now we are at a phase where even shivika fans are going away, as seen both here, on twitter n IG. Just see our forum ranking- no5... something which has never happened ever.

Its pointless now, gul is lost in her own world, harneet is in mode 'dont care'😆

I wonder about that positive comments gul is receiving lately😆

Anyway show is going down the drains, fans are complaining, some very humbly and some a bit badly, however Gul doesn't care at all.

Lol ending on don't worry keep chanting 'bhavya, bhavya and bhavya'😆

Originally posted by: laola

Gul lets be real has not been either interested or invested in ib for a while now, even when ib was at its peak and raking in both trps and the money and attention that came with said trps. Instead of reinvesting in her profitable product and stablize it, she started spending that money on new projects, a rookie buisness mistake that has come back to bite her. Now its catch 22 for her she stick to her guns and let the sink ship slowly but surely or admit that she made mistakes with ib and miscalculated a lot of things. Right now with sp revamp ishqbaaz is rumoured to go off air in june so she is using it as carte blanche to do whatever she wants. I dont expect good things in the future.

Coming to Mansi attacking actors personally is wrong but her comments were also in bad taste especially when not only the situation was hot but also when she is aware of how the fandom reacts to things.

Originally posted by: Michmichi

Online fans continue to ask the PH for their favourites out of attachment to the actors they like or for the couple, but the TRP viewers simply use their remote as adviced by the producer herself - there are 800 other shows, shows come and go etc! 😆 IB viewers (TRP) are not as loyal as EK show viewers, they'll stick with the show if the tracks are relatively good , if not leave, can come back too if it gets better!!

As for the actor, I dislike her explanation and subsequent ones as much as I dislike the scene itself ! It was factually not correct to say that if it was some other characters, there wouldn't any criticism. Till date the most criticised/bashed/trolled character is Shivaay and close second Anika. The actors playing the respective characters were criticised too. The forced shaadi scene , Anika touching Daksh's feet , scenes that were pointed out to be wrong ! Pita mata jo bhi ho , what all names Shivaay' been called 😆

And if it's Bhavya Bhavya n Bhavya , then why there isn't one memorable scene of the couple who are about to be married, it's been three months almost , apart from getting some good outfits and an assurance that the end game is Ruvya what exactly are they getting? Most of the time is taken to establish Saumya's story so far was fake !! 😆

In her explanation she said, bhavya facing so many criminals , I don't remember one case she solved conclusively! Here too the truth about Saumya was discovered by KRR , obros made Saumya confess , she only came in for the kick ! And uttar mattar case too she couldn't solve, instead she thought there's a possibility the kid is Rudy's 😆
See so many things don't add up , neither the scene nor the explanations!!