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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: maharathikarna

Right now mrinal is black for enemies and white for her people. When she falls in love later, we can see various shades of grey in her i guess😊.


Now this is an awesome reply! 👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: moviefan-pooja

@lostmymusic well said. Even though I do not completely like what mrinal is doing or what she did, I do understand where those reactions of hers are coming from and why she behaves like that


So you mean I don't understand the reasons? 😲
Please don't misunderstand me. 😭
I'm just stating that she's pure grey and not to be idolised and could have done better. That doesn't mean I don't understand her state and thoughts.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: KalyaniPanchali


Panchali was self centered who should be hated? 😲 Who told you? She made the Kurukshetra happen and so did Lord Krishna. So now Lord had to be hated as well? The Kurukshetra was not to punish Panchali's culprits. It was to destroy adharma. It was a Dharmayuddha. It happened because Suyodhana refused to accept the peace proposal. I don't say she was a Goddess, but she was divine. She has an ansh of Parvati Devi in her and was born of out of fire. How can you compare her with Mrinal? Panchali was born to install Dharma on the Earth. The war happened in the entire Bharatavarsha and many innocents all died cause it was needed to establish a new age. It is was Lord's will. Even after going through so much, Panchali was never self centered. She was Lord Krishna's sakhi (friend). She has gone through much much more than Mrinalvati, but she seek justice not revenge. Krishna showed us that if you humiliate a woman, what happens. The destruction. And the remaining Kauravas except Vikarna laughed at her as she was being disrobed. They are equally her culprits. Vikarna had to be killed cause he supported adharma in the war. Panchali is definitely ideal. One can learn so much from her. She's not a typical lady nor like Mrinalvati. She was divine. And if you know, South India worships her as as Goddess.

Mrinal can't be idolised. I love ideal characters. Maybe that's why. But I'm enjoying the show. And I love Mrinalvati, don't think I'm not liking her. I like ideals more that's it. 😊


Whatever it is many people died because of her. Come on, even Gods are not always right. Krishna wanted new age but the fact is fact that many people died. Draupadi wanted rest of the brothers died because they laughed on her. Right? Then Mrinal's entire family was killed in front of her. As someone said above, the aftermath if Manyakhet attack is not shown so you are finding Mrinal worse. Draupadi too was the reason of such a big wat for her personal revenge and many people's lives lost. And just because, she us some avtaar if God she is excused. Wow! Mind you, there were only 2 surviving children from the royal family. If Guru Aditya was not there then they would live like beggars on the streets and Manyakhet people would not lived worst lives under some cruel ruler. The problem is we people are used to watching righteous female leads who are always mahaan and never do wrong. But such things not always happen in real life. Mrinal banned entertainment in Manyakhet because that was the cause of destruction. She fears that entertainment can again be the reason if some enemies taking advantage not just at her palace but anywhere in Manyakhet. Malwa is not her sasural that she will care about Malwa and their people. In those times how many rulers actually cared about their own relatives let alone for other kingdoms? She do allowed entertainment on Mrinal's request so she is not completely against it. It's not that she goes to attack any random kingdom to expand her own kingdom but she only fights those who messes with her just like Prithvi. There they have something in common. And in those times, there were not police and IPC(Indian Penal Codes) so people used to get back with anyone like this😆.
Edited by angel_juhi04 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: KalyaniPanchali


Exactly. Living for revenge. That thought is not sitting well with me. I see life is a very different way. 😆
I'm enjoying the show so far and hope I'll continue to do it. As interesting as Mrinal as, I hope she realises what life is.


I love her spirit of taking revenge. She is not wrong. But she knows the pain of losing family then why she can't see that she will also cause the same pain to some innocent people ?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion


I love her spirit of taking revenge. She is not wrong. But she knows the pain of losing family then why she can't see that she will also cause the same pain to some innocent people ?


In her support, you can say that it was a different era with different set of moral standards. Kings and queens mostly looked after their own self interests only leave apart their people. So looking after enemy does not come in to picture at all. Indians being pacifists are very forgiving but others are not as history has repeatedly proven.

Basic indian mantra: live and let live
Basic war mantra everywhere: live today to kill tomorrow
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Can't help myself posting this after panchali and mrinal discussions , no woman had gone through her entire life what panchali had gone through, panchali was everything a woman s supposed to be, if she was fierce she was even kind and compassionate too, she wants justice not revenge whereas mrinal wants revenge, there's big difference between justice and revenge, panchali didn't do anything when kauravas were unprepared, whereas mrinal disguised herself as some other and went to malwa and created all those chaos when they were unprepared, now this s the difference between justice and revenge, justice the one which people wanted with their conscious and revenge which makes people blind, panchali wanted justice only.

About panchali causing bloodshed let me correct here, KURUKSHETRA didn't happen because of panchali. Sadly this s what people always say, because its always easy to put blame on woman, war happened because of pandavas and kauravas, war started long back before even panchali was born, it started when bhishma had taken that celestial oath, it started when shantanu let him took it, started when shantanu laid his eyes on satyavati, it started when amba was humiliated, it started when ambika and ambalika had to go through niyog unwillingly, it started when drithrashtara born as blind person, it started when bhisma arranged marriage with gandhari Thus making a clear path to SHAKUNI, it started when gandhari blindfolded her eyes, it started when pandu was made king, it started when durvasa muni gave that boon to young kunti, it started when kunti abonded karna, it started when pandu was cursed by muni thus leading to his exile, it started when both pandavas and kauravas were born, when pandu died, when pandavs came to palace, due to polyandry, it started long before panchlai was born, KURUKSHETRA happened because of these cousins only and it's their fight for throne, it's because of their greediness, lust, revenge, humiliation, anger , selfishness all these things led to war, kuru clan was destroyed because of kuru people only, what happened in the dyut sabha was the last nail in the coffin, a woman was humiliated like never, ofcourse pandavas r to be blamed here more than kauravas, ll never forgive them for this, she was dragged mercilessly by her brother in law that too when she was having her periods in front of everyone, she was called wh**e and characterless what not, all those people sitting there only laughed at her but none rescued her except lord kanha, otherwise everyone knows what would have happened, KURUKSHETRA happened because kuru cousins wanted throne, and for lord Krishna what he wanted s purification of earth, like he said jab jab hoga nari ka apman tab hoga vinash, age of destruction started with dyut sabha, because humanity failed that day, because woman who's daughter , daughter in law, wife , mother was humiliated but none said anything except vikarna, even he couldn't able to stop that horror, panchali was divided, humiliated by her brother in laws, wronged by her own husbands, had to leave her children, kidnapped by her sister in law husband, and again literally molested by kichak, lost all her children, even after all these she stood brave, firm, never lost her mind, always followed dharm, never accepted dasathv even when her husbands did, she asked only one question till no one able to answer, main Dharma vijitha r Adharma vijitha, none able to answer this till now, she even rescued her husbands who wronged her and failed her.



If panchali s fierce she was even kind and compassionate which mrinal didn't have much, she wanted her sinners to be punished not the entire family, after war she took care of gandhari and drithrashtra like her own parents who r her sinners parents, even karna son was brought up in palace only after his death who called her wh**e, she even forgave aswathama even who beheaded her all sons when they were asleep, if she's fierce to sinners like godess durga, she was compassionate and kind to innnoent people like maa Parvati , even after all these happened to her she held herself strongly , she held balance and cared for her people, whereas mrinal turned deaf to her own brother, about god can be wrong too , we humans are too flawed to even understand him and his actions, panchaali s divine was born to help supreme to teach humans lesson whose sins started overweiging, if u leave all these divine things even I can say it's people actions what had led to Mahabharata, that's whole kuru clan s responsible for the blood shed and destruction, it was due to the jealousy and hunger towards throne had led this, it was yudhishtir who betted his own wife and dussasan who tried to disrobe his own sister in law which led to their own clan destruction, not cause of panchali. MAHABHARATA s mirror to kalyug, a replica what people r going to be, we see every second rape , molestation, murderer what not, Mahabharata s message to people, a warning from supreme himself.





There's no comparison between panchali and mrinal, mrinal s not balanced whereas pancchali was even at her worst situations, whereas mrinal too human and too flawed, it's ok to be like this it says she's too human and can connect with her, whereas panchali s divine and balanced, era s different and her situation s different, blood shed didn't happened because of panchali personal dharma, its only because of kuru peapole karma which only bit them back, whereas for mrinal blood shed s for her personal dharma.



Coming to mrinal she's too human and flawed, what happened in her childhood was cruel, no child should see what she did, and no child had to go through what she had gone through, my sympathies r with her, and I can very well understand why she's the person you see she's today, but the question s what lesson she had learnt in her life, what example she wants to set to others?, what shingdutt had done years back was cruel and punishable, he needs to be punished for that, he killed her whole family and innocent people, it was cruel, mrinal s also doing same , like thread maker said what's the difference between him and her? she wanted whole malwa destruction, this shows she's blinded by revenge and s even ignoring her brothers pain, if she wanted revenge badly, like MDS told y can't she just kill the king and his family( family wasn't needed but if it gives her piece), like this they can won malwa kingdom and can rule kingdom with piece thus not punishing common people, that can very well differentiate her from malwa king, now what mrinal s doing also cruel just like king had done years back, let's accept this, she's lacking the sensitivity like that king, making her looking like same as him , after all the things she had gone through her entire childhood, she should be the first one to understand what revenge does to oneself, it not only destroy others even to oneself, can't she see destruction of malwa ll give birth to so many MRINALS, maybe cvs r showing self realisation of mrinal and her actions thus making path to her journey, I hope its not too late for that, because cvs needs to know there's thin line between grey and black.


If we keep all these aside show s amazing with amazing cast, especially ashish and sonarika, sonarika s doing great job , she's amazingly beautiful as sonarika especially her eyes, ashish s really dashing as prithvi, let's see where their journey goes from here, and I hope cvs don't cross that thin line.
Edited by swathi90 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Why did Panchali come into this discussion? This should be only and only about Mrinalvati. Panchali is incomparable. She's different. She's not even a bit like Mrinalvati. She seek justice not revenge. Remember the innocents who died in the Kurukshetra are soldiers and not the common folk celebrating Rangotsav. God can be wrong? It's the most silliest joke I've ever heard. Lord Krishna was perfect. A man of perfection. God himself. We humans cannot understand Him. He's far beyond our understanding. As he says, "Mein dil mein aata hoon, samajh mein nahi,"

I agree that Kurukshetra started much before Panchali and even Pandavas' birth. The main reason is Bhishma and his oath. But why blame Pandavas and Panchali? If Pandavas betted their wife in the game, what was Bhishma doing? Pandavas are his grandchildren. Can't he stop them? Or stop Shakuni from cheating? And Dhritarashtra. The most blame goes to that blind man. The one who blames Pandavas and Panchali, or Krishna is the one who never read Mahabharata or tried to understand it's essence. No offense to anyone. Please refrain from comparing fictional characters like Mrinalvati to the Empress Panchali who was born for the world.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@TM: This is the problem of people saying anything they want to any character but gives detailed lecture when it comes to their favourite cgaeacrch with the excuse that she is a God. Better have guts to hear about the flaws of your favourites if you feel free to flaws of others😆. Yes even Gods can be wrong for which I can make a big list. I am sending discussion now as I want peace in this forum instead of double standard discussions.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

@TM: This is the problem of people saying anything they want to any character but gives detailed lecture when it comes to their favourite cgaeacrch with the excuse that she is a God. Better have guts to hear about the flaws if your favourites if you feel free to flaws if others😆. Yes even Gods can be wrong for which I can make a big list. I am sending discussion now as I want peace in this forum instead of double standard discussions.


Panchali is not God. She's flawed as well. But she's not the reason for Kurukshetra nor the war is her personal revenge. Panchali is not my favorite. I can easily empathise with her, feel her. I know what her flaws are. SHE IS NOT FLAWLESS. But, she's not like Mrinal to be compared.
No. God can't be wrong. That's a silly thing. Tell me where is he wrong? That's a illiterate perception that God is wrong. I think you are not literate in Vedas, puranas and upanishads, nor a believer of God. So I can't do anything. Again, no offence to anyone.

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