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Just finished watching the episode. And from whatever I could grasp with the end of this track was that CVs are trying to explore different phases of a few months old marriage - love confession, old-age insecurities and finally trust.

Good grasp if CVs had brainstormed those three elements to show as an after marriage build-up on many aspects of the journey

Love confession - absolutely loved Anika's, so did I for Shivay (except it was a little rushed, but the quality always wins over quantity. So the thoughts Shivay had put into it with those chocolate fountain and a shower of chocolates from above, and we as we all know that Shivay's actions speak louder than his voice, he used it in a way as an example to tell her his love will be showered in abundance until his last breath - Beautiful!

Old age insecurity -I probably won't be able to express in words how much I loved that tiny track. such a unique one (at least to me because otherwise all I have been seeing in other shows was high voltage drama). As much as I loved the comedy executed by the three obros (esp Shivay LOL, I still crack up whenever I watch those 'tie tie phiss...what the fish' and his broken punjabi) and Anika, it was well balanced with some good romance and most importantly an incredble message at the end when Shivay finally realized his mistake and went to Anika to apologize and pacify her. Not even joking, those promises by Shivay are still etched in my heart and that final hug followed by the tease - Just perfect!! That's the Shivika I have always known.

Trust track - That's where they tripped. And from what I could grasp after watching today's episode and connecting it back to Gul's comment a few weeks ago, is that they are terribly mistaken "family/Obro moment as a source of TRP" as giving the same kind of storyline and characterization to each and every lead on the show.

what I have noticed since everything went back to normal between Om and Gauri is that they made an Obro team and Obahu team as a WAY to show "family" moments and give equal screen space without realizing how that is affecting the potential to so many more features of these two couples. they brought Piya track as a way to show the strong faith the wives have on their husbands - great. The videos of Piya dancing with the Obros in that room didn't seem to bad in the episode to me - awesome! The only thing that had nagged me like anything was how CVs merged the three characters into one and destroyed the potential to show how differently Anika and Gauri handled the situation.

Many would argue that they all were together and fell into Piya's trap and so how different could it be? Either the wives would erupt like a volcano or have blind faith on their husbands like they did on the episode.

Well, To me, Gauri hasn't walked down the path that Anika has. Their background is poles apart to say the least. From being the annoying chatter box that Shivay used to think of Anika to her being his reason to breath everyday now, they have walked down such long path where they faced different obstacles and tackled them together, taking bullets for each other, elevating their trust in each other a notch higher as they would resolve every issue, while every new hurdle would smoothly scrape off a new kind of baggage they had between them until there was absolutely none, and they embraced each other wholeheartedly.

If you think about all those - Anika trusting Shivay blindly perfectly works for me.

Coming to gauri, yes that;s feasible too, However, the way of showing could have made the track so much more easy to digest and would have made sense. RiKara literally just started their marriage life. They're definitely not in the same phase as Shivika. I would love to seeing a fresh start on their marriage life. Right now, what looks like is that CV knocked on Rikara's door and was like : Yo guys, so like we need more obro and fmaily moments to increase the trp and so you guys need to skip a few stages of developing nice bonds and jump to where Shivika is right now. Don;t worry, no one would notice since shivika is the main couple...

like, Fhat the wuck?!

it's okay if Piya track was introduced - but all three brothers don't have to fall in the same trap, do they? I would have liked if it was just rudra and Shivay while they show us some fresh start of RiKara's newly marriage life. Just because Om has confessed his love for gauri and apologized doesn't mean he can't feel guilty for what he has done to her since day 1. that guilt can not be AND should not be wiped way so easily until he does some good redemption. It;s totally fine that gauri has forgiven her and she doesn;t hold grudges - perfect, causes that's how her character is. but Om? From the kind of person he is, his guilt shouldn't go away so easily, neither should his attempts on making gauri feel home at every step and that his happiness on getting her back. Take her out for dinner, show how these two slowly gets comfortable with each other as husband and wife and let this new marriage blossom. Because where they had left off, gauri should not have this level of comfort and be so casual with Om's attempts to romance. This way, they would keep the uniqueness of each couple's story and characterization consistent. Right now, RiKara are behaving like they have passed 5 years of their happy marriage life.


and BECAUSE they are so trying to fast forward rikara's marriage to give them the same pace as shivika, it sounds like they all are losing their essence.

Tuesday's little Shivika scene did the trick for me. That's what I was waiting for - Shivay handling this issue in his own way and getting some alone time to sort it out ON HIS OWN instead of biting his nails along with his brothers and taking every step as a team. yet I backed off on my word and shook my head in disappointment when all three characters of Obro were merged.

One thing I would really love to see on shivika before they move onto anything else is Anika trying to make everything normal between Shivay and Pinky. From the precap, it seemed like Pinky was happy that anika is "pregnant" and she's kind of really getting back to holding the same place in Shivika's life. And I would absolutely DREAD if that just happens without a proper closure on Shivay's grudges against his mother. Yes we had gotten some very nice scenes where shivay had taken proper stands for Anika but that shouldnt be it after what she had done to that poor girl. anika being the sweet being she is, would obviously try to make everything right and may be through that they could show a few fights between Shivika followed by him making her understand that it's not easy for him to do so after what she had done his wife - this would not only keep the track balanced in terms of the fact that it's not always "mushy gushy romance" yet those fights just tell how precious she has become to him that he's good to fight with Anika BECAUSE he doesn't want to forgive the person who has hurt his wife so much. Yes, we have gotten some vague scenes that has just touched the surface of it but I don't think that's enough for such a massive track like this.


Coming to Ruvya - honestly, Leenesh is SUCH a talented actor. He's literally the jaan of Ishqbaaaz, I don't know why he is given such crappy storyline and is only kept for comedy. I feel like he is being only used according to CV's benefit. It's okay if a lovestory is not preferred for him, but I would love to see some good friendship between Rudra and Bhavya. I felt the "stand on your own feet" triggered by bhavya had a great potential but they kind of left it off in the middle.
May be that strong friendship between bhavya and Rudra could help him see the real values of life. He has always been brought up in a rich family, never deprived of anything in life. If bhavya could share some of her own story or give him a reality check of how life is actually is and make him understand the meaning of living life , that would give a decent track to their story.


Whatever I have said above, are just my opinion and a few tracks I would probably like to see. Today's episode slightly scared me. The way they are playing this merging game is really and i mean REALLY affecting 1.5 year's built up of characters and plot. I am not even close to the field of TV industry and I know its always easier to be say than done, so , don't bash me that I have just jotted some ideas down on what i see potential in for the three couples.

Because it takes years to build something precious and takes only seconds to break. I do not want to see IB setting an example of this saying.

Feel free to share your thoughts. Please refrain bashing. Apologies in advance if any fans from Rikara, RuvYa or shivika felt offended. It was unintentional, and I was merely stating my views.

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Mushfika
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Wow this is probably the first time I'm hearing something slightly against CVs. 😆
I don't know if you saw my post but this is literally a better version of everything I wanted to voice out but couldn't. More reasons to love you😉

Coming to your post, I love how even while criticizing you tried seeing the depth of CVs thoughts behind the tracks post marriage. I never thought of all these track as a whole until you mentioned in your post about love confession, old age insecurities and trust track. Keen eyes and good brain to connect the dots mushfika 👏

Originally posted by: Mushfika


Well, To me, Gauri hasn't walked down the path that Anika has. Their background is poles apart to say the least. From being the annoying chatter box that Shivay used to think of Anika to her being his reason to breath everyday now, they have walked down such long path where they faced different obstacles and tackled them together, taking bullets for each other, elevating their trust in each other a notch higher as they would resolve every issue, while every new hurdle would smoothly scrape off a new kind of baggage they had between them until there was absolutely none, and they embraced each other wholeheartedly.


exactly my thoughts. I am not understanding why cvs are forcing rikara to be in the same phase as shivika when they have a totally different story line. They basically just started their happy marriage and as you mentioned, they indeed look like 5 year old happily married couple. 🥱

Originally posted by: Mushfika


Yo guys, so like we need more obro and fmaily moments to increase the trp and so you guys need to skip a few stages of developing nice bonds and jump to where Shivika is right now. Don;t worry, no one would notice since shivika is the main couple...

like, Fhat the wuck?!

🤣This was the best...I can't breath🤣

Honestly thats how i am feeling like, not even joking. Tats probably what has happened

Originally posted by: Mushfika


Just because Om has confessed his love for gauri and apologized doesn't mean he can't feel guilty for what he has done to her since day 1. that guilt can not be AND should not be wiped way so easily until he does some good redemption. It;s totally fine that gauri has forgiven her and she doesn;t hold grudges - perfect, causes that's how her character is. but Om? From the kind of person he is, his guilt shouldn't go away so easily, neither should his attempts on making gauri feel home at every step and that his happiness on getting her back. Take her out for dinner, show how these two slowly gets comfortable with each other as husband and wife and let this new marriage blossom. Because where they had left off, gauri should not have this level of comfort and be so casual with Om's attempts to romance. This way, they would keep the uniqueness of each couple's story and characterization consistent. Right now, RiKara are behaving like they have passed 5 years of their happy marriage life.


Can you go work with the CVs. I feel like they will get some brains. this is so precisely said!!! it's just so sudden and doesn't go with om's character. how's everything baclk to normal in rikara's life after what om has done to her?! I totally agree that from gauri, it's okay but om? it does not go with his characyter at all!! I love the taking gauri on a date part and how you said they should show a gradual development on gauri getting cofortable witn om instead of being so casual with his romance. 🤢🤢

Originally posted by: Mushfika


One thing I would really love to see on shivika before they move onto anything else is Anika trying to make everything normal between Shivay and Pinky. From the precap, it seemed like Pinky was happy that anika is "pregnant" and she's kind of really getting back to holding the same place in Shivika's life. And I would absolutely DREAD if that just happens without a proper closure on Shivay's grudges against his mother. Yes we had gotten some very nice scenes where shivay had taken proper stands for Anika but that shouldnt be it after what she had done to that poor girl. anika being the sweet being she is, would obviously try to make everything right and may be through that they could show a few fights between Shivika followed by him making her understand that it's not easy for him to do so after what she had done his wife - this would not only keep the track balanced in terms of the fact that it's not always "mushy gushy romance" yet those fights just tell how precious she has become to him that he's good to fight with Anika BECAUSE he doesn't want to forgive the person who has hurt his wife so much. Yes, we have gotten some vague scenes that has just touched the surface of it but I don't think that's enough for such a massive track like this.


@underline - I LOVE your thoughts behind it.

And your thought behind this shivika track reminds me of your story 'the aftermath'. we saw a little glimpse of it and god, what a phenomenal job you had done and how you had given something cvs couldn't !!!!

I don't know what to say about Ruvya. I feel theyre just hopeless. or may be CVs have MADE them hopeless. I agree leenesh is just amazing. he really deserves good track.

I just want to know if your post somehow be DMed to the CVs. This is just such nicely written thing that is not bashing them but instead showing how their thoughts were right but the execution was horrible. and they should really stop this "all brothers and bahus in sync" mode.


Edited by Maisha123 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hey Brilliant post!!!
I will comment only about Rikara track ...Rikara track was never given importance in those 40 mins to develop their relationship so it will never happen now.This couple had just confessed shouldn't they be sneaking in to spend time together but they are busy with every other issues minus their personal relationship.Cvs were never interested with this couple and now they are in par with shivika so future prospects are doubtful.Cvs are lazy to write anything for this couple nor do they want to develop RIkara.Rikara's relationship will never be justified.In another 2 weeks Rikara will also consumate and they will move to their raaz track.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks for your post. More than Rikara iam feeling bad for Leenesh. His story has been ruined to the core
Such an amazing talent he is.
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Mushfika,
A post from you will always being a smile on my face :-)
Such a superb post. Written so well by pointing out the issues current story line is going through for every couple. I have seen so many posts trying to bring up the same points but then you have put them so subtly without bashing neither the CVs nor the story line. Kudos girl !!!

I loved what you have written for Shivika's story line should be... Something that would create conflict yet the love is never undermined or tested.


Yes we had gotten some very nice scenes where shivay had taken proper stands for Anika but that shouldnt be it after what she had done to that poor girl. anika being the sweet being she is, would obviously try to make everything right and may be through that they could show a few fights between Shivika followed by him making her understand that it's not easy for him to do so after what she had done his wife - this would not only keep the track balanced in terms of the fact that it's not always "mushy gushy romance" yet those fights just tell how precious she has become to him that he's good to fight with Anika BECAUSE he doesn't want to forgive the person who has hurt his wife so much.

@Bold . Very true and it would make a nice track.
I would want this to happen in the show.. both Shivaay and Annika suffered a lot because of the game Pinky played with them.

Only when CVs create different story lines for individual couples along with family drama, people will be able to connect as all the couples and enjoy the family moments.
Every one having and behaving same to a particular situation is not fine. As an audience you tend to be disconnected with such scenes. And even the essence of the dialogues is lost some where between all couples. The come up with very nice dialogues but then they are ruining the essence by use it over all couples.

Thank you for your post dear !!!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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its a nice post and lot of valid points. But would like to say something about rikara here. Even if rikara were not together presently, gauri would have given benefit of doubt to omkara. she would not have judged and accused om of dishonesty and having affair then also. And also, because of lazy writing audience always forgets their story but they have been there for each other. they have had their share of struggles, misunderstandings, anguish, pain, mistrust. And confession. Confessions does not define age of relation. They are merely stepping stones towards newer milestones. it is their journey to this confession that makes them rikara. Even their misunderstandings😊

This issue had lot of potential for them. But they have never been treated fairly. Like someone here mentioned, feels like writers are again just not interested. so wouldn't go much into this.

And agree completely to the fact that all couples are at different phase and therefore audience expects different perspective and treatment . This whole group thing and same dialogues and everything, is boring and so disconnecting. Feels like 🤢
Edited by Ishi2012 - 8 years ago
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This is new!!!
Never came across this kind of post by you 😲 I admire this fact about you that even while pointing out something negative, you tried bringing the positive parts of CVs and their thoughts ebehind those tracks. I just love you for your unique approach towards any kind of issue regarding IB.

What I feel Shivika is lacking st this moment is a SOLID track. I don't know how other people feel but right now they are literally beating around bush until something nice magically happens and audience like it. As you said, the pinky track would actually not only give us some nice phases of Shivika but also close the huge loop of such an important track. I actually would LOVE to see this whole Anika patching up between Shivay and pinky. Characters would stay enact too.

I don't know what happened to rikara dude. These two have so much potential in the sense that they have crossed such complicated phase and trust issues to a finally confession love. I feel now they should give each other time to understand better... As you said like a fresh start.

Hate taking about ruvya honestly they have gotten on my nerves now. It's been so long since they have been on the same phase. I don't know what CVs are thinking

Can you send your post to Gul or harneet's on IG? You actually summed everything up so nicely with so many valid points and future tracks as a potential for a good start. I feel they might consider once they read how you understood the thoughts behind the track but also that something about it isn't pushing the right button. Usually Gul gets mad if people bash, this is not bashing so you might want to give it a try

Edited by LoveNakuulMehta - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: nebuna

Hey Brilliant post!!!

I will comment only about Rikara track ...Rikara track was never given importance in those 40 mins to develop their relationship so it will never happen now.This couple had just confessed shouldn't they be sneaking in to spend time together but they are busy with every other issues minus their personal relationship.Cvs were never interested with this couple and now they are in par with shivika so future prospects are doubtful.Cvs are lazy to write anything for this couple nor do they want to develop RIkara.Rikara's relationship will never be justified.In another 2 weeks Rikara will also consumate and they will move to their raaz track.


That's One of the many things I hate about Gul. If you know you can't handle three leads, why do you even start giving such big hope to the audience. And it's not even that there's a spin off for Rikara. So Rikaras storyline does affect the plot of IB as a whole. Which is the worst
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Originally posted by: ithihaas

Mushfika,

A post from you will always being a smile on my face :-)
Such a superb post. Written so well by pointing out the issues current story line is going through for every couple. I have seen so many posts trying to bring up the same points but then you have put them so subtly without bashing neither the CVs nor the story line. Kudos girl !!!

I loved what you have written for Shivika's story line should be... Something that would create conflict yet the love is never undermined or tested.


Yes we had gotten some very nice scenes where shivay had taken proper stands for Anika but that shouldnt be it after what she had done to that poor girl. anika being the sweet being she is, would obviously try to make everything right and may be through that they could show a few fights between Shivika followed by him making her understand that it's not easy for him to do so after what she had done his wife - this would not only keep the track balanced in terms of the fact that it's not always "mushy gushy romance" yet those fights just tell how precious she has become to him that he's good to fight with Anika BECAUSE he doesn't want to forgive the person who has hurt his wife so much.

@Bold . Very true and it would make a nice track.
I would want this to happen in the show.. both Shivaay and Annika suffered a lot because of the game Pinky played with them.

Only when CVs create different story lines for individual couples along with family drama, people will be able to connect as all the couples and enjoy the family moments.
Every one having and behaving same to a particular situation is not fine. As an audience you tend to be disconnected with such scenes. And even the essence of the dialogues is lost some where between all couples. The come up with very nice dialogues but then they are ruining the essence by use it over all couples.

Thank you for your post dear !!!


@black Bold and underline - just what i thought watching yesterday's episode. They really did have such wonderful dialogues. Anika dadi dialogues were realistic and shivika dialogues were very touchy. but as you mentioned the essence was lost just because of repetition. it was crazy the way they kept chanting the same thing by rewording it over and over again. I just hope cvs understand it soon enough before it's too late. Really looking forward to the upcoming episode agfter watching lalit mohan's sr pic 😳

@blue and underline - you stole my words. her posts are just fab interms of content as well as logic. So are her stories.

By the way Mushfika, Story se yaad aya, what have you thought about writing a FF?😉 let us know soon
Edited by Maisha123 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: nebuna

Hey Brilliant post!!!

I will comment only about Rikara track ...Rikara track was never given importance in those 40 mins to develop their relationship so it will never happen now.This couple had just confessed shouldn't they be sneaking in to spend time together but they are busy with every other issues minus their personal relationship.Cvs were never interested with this couple and now they are in par with shivika so future prospects are doubtful.Cvs are lazy to write anything for this couple nor do they want to develop RIkara.Rikara's relationship will never be justified.In another 2 weeks Rikara will also consumate and they will move to their raaz track.


That is what my problem is right now. I don't see any point in showing such "team" scenes when there is just so much more to RiKara. I love obro scenes and I love family moments. they are always treat to watch. but to the degree they are showing this togetherness by downright repeating dialogues to show that they have same mentality and are "one family" is what is making me cringe like hell. As Mushfika mentioned in her post, if cvs could just show a fresh start of their happy marriage, it would at least woould not look like a school play. I love the idea of showing Om's guilty side and making things better for gauri.. .. something that Om could never give gauri as his wife. He should try making those things better instead of barging into all the other issues in the world

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