How is every Tom, Dick and Harry a psychologist/psychiatrist here?

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Riddhiiii

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Posted: 8 years ago

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How is every Tom, Dick and Harry a psychologist/psychiatrist here?

How is that so many people here proclaim to be an expert on "psychopaths"?

Despite not being from this field I'd request you all to stop attempting to tarnish the sanctity of this field, as professionals from this or any other field study that almost all their lives and it is nothing short of a treachery that we all would commit by being immature, in the sense, we as an outsider know next to nothing when it comes to the profundity of any field.

Reading some random internet articles can never match the countless hours of hard work and efforts an individual has put up to reach that level of professionalism. Reminding you all again, they spend all their lives studying it. This stands true for all professions.

This being a medical field, should be dealt with utmost care and caution.

Yes, yes, I know, there's nothing wrong in "analyzing" a fictional character and everyone is entitled to have their own opinions, but it's astonishing how a few people here are hell bent on declaring the character in question as what they see them as. Analyzing something is entirely different from diagnosing it. I hope people here realize that. (How come I don't see much outsiders diagnosing something related to a physical ailment?)

This should be taken care of and I request the mod to look into the matter.

Thank you.

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Let me assure you I am from the field... And this show has no relevance 😆 to what have I ever studied

But its still great to know more and read articles.. And let people just develop some interest in the field... Its fiction.. Let it remain for fun... No one is gonna apply what's discussed in real life anyway..

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Originally posted by: shahsb_26
Let me assure you I am from the field... And this show has no relevance 😆 to what have I ever studied
But its still great to know more and read articles.. And let people just develop some interest in the field... Its fiction.. Let it remain for fun... No one is gonna apply what's discussed in real life anyway..

The problem is it's already a very sensitive issue and shouldn't be taken "for fun".

I agree that it's good to know stuff, but knowing stuff is entirely different from studying it.

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Originally posted by: Riddhiii
This being a medical field, should be dealt with utmost care and caution.

Tell that to the makers of this serial, who made Maya's miscarriage before the leap an utter joke, and other serial makers, who don't seem to do the minutest bit of research for their soaps.

While you do have some pertinent points, the underlying fact is that logic and Indian serials don't quite mix, and by that extension, you shouldn't hold the viewers to very high standards.

Take it easy- this serial is anyway going to end in another 100 episodes or so.

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Well, by that logic nobody is a judge here either. Then how can anyone pass a judgment that someone was raped/molested or not? Rape is a crucial topic too.

I am from a creative field, and I have done my assignments on character analysis. So, I do not think someone should be refrained from doing that either.

To write a realistic psychopathic character, you've gotta learn about this subject I agree. But you don't have to be an expert either. It doesn't mean anyone is ridiculing the subject or profession.

It is almost like saying, you are demeaning someone's research to write characters like Hannibal Lecter

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i understand what u r trying to point out.i too belong to medical field.this is really a sensitive issue but like others said cv's are to be blamed to show such bloopers in the serial.people are only analysing what cv's are showing hence no fault of the fandom/audiences.

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I don't think anyone here who has attempted to make an observation, analysis or whatever one may choose to call it has claimed that he/she is a expert in the said field. Everyone who has made an attempt has repeatedly clarified that he/she doesn't mean to nail anything in the coffin or that their conclusion stands correct. By that extension, no one should be passing judgements over highly critical and sensitive issues such as rape, molestation, etc. Point being, it's not detrimental as long as one is exercising maximum caution and care.

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Originally posted by: samaira_samy
Well, by that logic nobody is a judge here either. Then how can anyone pass a judgment that someone was raped/molested or not? Rape is a crucial topic too.
I am from a creative field, and I have done my assignments on character analysis. So, I do not think someone should be refrained from doing that either.

To write a realistic psychopathic character, you've gotta learn about this subject I agree. But you don't have to be an expert either. It doesn't mean anyone is ridiculing the subject or profession.
It is almost like saying, you are demeaning someone's research to write characters like Hannibal Lecter

Originally posted by: .annihilation.
I don't think anyone here who has attempted to make an observation, analysis or whatever one may choose to call it has claimed that he/she is a expert in the said field. Everyone who has made an attempt has repeatedly clarified that he/she doesn't mean to nail anything in the coffin or that their conclusion stands correct. By that extension, no one should be passing judgements over highly critical and sensitive issues such as rape, molestation, etc. Point being, it's not detrimental as long as one is exercising maximum caution and care.

Please read the post properly. I've mentioned that it is different diagnosing a person and analyzing a situation, I hope you understand that.

And yea, no one is a judge. But it is human nature to judge. Isn't it? It is also human nature to analyze. But when it comes to diagnosing a person, it is best left to professionals.

And no, I am certainly not demeaning anyone's efforts. It's just have you heard of the Hippocratic oath that one takes? If not please look into it. People should respect that too. It is not a game that anyone and everyone could play. And it's certainly not an assignment or whatever. Please remember that.

Originally posted by: Riddhiii

Yes, yes, I know, there's nothing wrong in "analyzing" a fictional character and everyone is entitled to have their own opinions, but it's astonishing how a few people here are hell bent on declaring the character in question as what they see them as. Analyzing something is entirely different from diagnosing it. I hope people here realize that. (How come I don't see much outsiders diagnosing something related to a physical ailment?)

Originally posted by: kkrnightriders
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i understand what u r trying to point out.i too belong to medical field.this is really a sensitive issue but like others said cv's are to be blamed to show such bloopers in the serial.people are only analysing what cv's are showing hence no fault of the fandom/audiences.

Like I said, "analyzing" and "diagnosing" are complete different things. But there are so many people trying to box the character in question into a certain encasement.

Originally posted by: aekiel

Tell that to the makers of this serial, who made Maya's miscarriage before the leap an utter joke, and other serial makers, who don't seem to do the minutest bit of research for their soaps.

While you do have some pertinent points, the underlying fact is that logic and Indian serials don't quite mix, and by that extension, you shouldn't hold the viewers to very high standards.

Take it easy- this serial is anyway going to end in another 100 episodes or so.

Exactly, they're playing with so many issues at once. Made a joke out of so, so many issues. They needed to do a proper research before broadcasting a show on such a huge scale.

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Originally posted by: Riddhiii

Please read the post properly. I've mentioned that it is different diagnosing a person and analyzing a situation, I hope you understand that.
And yea, no one is a judge. But it is human nature to judge. Isn't it? It is also human nature to analyze. But when it comes to diagnosing a person, it is best left to professionals.
And no, I am certainly not demeaning anyone's efforts. It's just have you heard of the Hippocratic oath that one takes? If not please look into it. People should respect that too. It is not a game that anyone and everyone could play. And it's certainly not an assignment or whatever. Please remember that.

I believe I have read your post properly and interpreted it right. Not sure if you read into mine properly though. I understand your concerns completely, I haven't raised a doubt on that. Although, I must admit that I don't quite understand the point of your objection. This is a public platform that's essentially meant for discussions. I don't know which post/topic you seem to have taken great offence to but the ones I read that aimed at making an analysis about this particular area, as in what could Maya's possible condition be have given out enough number of disclaimers and clarifications that they aren't making a professional diagnosis but only attempting to read into a character.

Going by your argument, one shouldn't be judging because they aren't 'judges', one shouldn't put forth arguments or debate because they aren't 'lawyers', one shouldn't talk about marriage if they happen to be unmarried, one shouldn't talking science because they aren't 'scientists', one shouldn't write because they aren't 'writers' and so on. If one has an opinion, view, analysis, etc to offer, they aren't required to be professionals in the field of the said subject.

This a fictional space and character we're talking about and not a real person, so anything and everything discussed remains with the fictional realm. If you expect people not to discuss the show or its character on a platform whose purpose is exactly that, then I'm sorry but you're getting it all wrong. As long as it's being done constructively, I personally don't see any harm. As for you, whatever you deem okay.

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Originally posted by: .annihilation.

I believe I have read your post properly and interpreted it right. Not sure if you read into mine properly though. I understand your concerns completely, I haven't raised a doubt on that. Although, I must admit that I don't quite understand the point of your objection. This is a public platform that's essentially meant for discussions. I don't know which post/topic you seem to have taken great offence to but the ones I read that aimed at making an analysis about this particular area, as in what could Maya's possible condition be have given out enough number of disclaimers and clarifications that they aren't making a professional diagnosis but only attempting to read into a character.

Going by your argument, one shouldn't be judging because they aren't 'judges', one shouldn't put forth arguments or debate because they aren't 'lawyers', one shouldn't talk about marriage if they happen to be unmarried, one shouldn't talking science because they aren't 'scientists', one shouldn't write because they aren't 'writers' and so on. If one has an opinion, view, analysis, etc to offer, they aren't required to be professionals in the field of the said subject.

This a fictional space and character we're talking about and not a real person, so anything and everything discussed remains with the fictional realm. If you expect people not to discuss the show or its character on a platform whose purpose is exactly that, then I'm sorry but you're getting it all wrong. As long as it's being done constructively, I personally don't see any harm. As for you, whatever you deem okay.

Originally posted by: Riddhiii

Yes, yes, I know, there's nothing wrong in "analyzing" a fictional character and everyone is entitled to have their own opinions, but it's astonishing how a few people here are hell bent on declaring the character in question as what they see them as. Analyzing something is entirely different from diagnosing it. I hope people here realize that. (How come I don't see much outsiders diagnosing something related to a physical ailment?)
Please read the post properly. I've mentioned that it is different diagnosing a person and analyzing a situation, I hope you understand that.
And yea, no one is a judge. But it is human nature to judge. Isn't it? It is also human nature to analyze. But when it comes to diagnosing a person, it is best left to professionals.
And no, I am certainly not demeaning anyone's efforts. It's just have you heard of the Hippocratic oath that one takes? If not please look into it. People should respect that too. It is not a game that anyone and everyone could play. And it's certainly not an assignment or whatever. Please remember that.

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