Avni an undisciplined child

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anonee

@anonee

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Posted: 9 years ago

In my opinion Avni is an undisciplined and ill mannered child.

A few weeks ago we saw her slapping her Nani, then punching and pushing Kia to the ground, and today we saw her throwing rocks at her Dadi. The rocks broke the glass windows and one of them hit her Dadi in her head and caused bleeding.

Avni's mother supported her actions; worse, she blamed Avni's dad for her decision to be an unwed mother and live off the money doled out by him!

Rock throwing at a person is aggravated assault and in many countries it is considered to be a felony. Of course in Naamkarann it is glorified. No parent would want their child to watch this show.

In fact, I would like to ask Avni if Miss Mary would praise her for such behavior? Is this what Miss Mary has been teaching her in school?

Avni entered her dadi's house in stealth, she hid like a thief, and misinformed people about her identity. If she had gone to get her dad why did she not go to him straight after the aarati?

I do understand Avni's pain and frustration - but I do not support her loud, rude, and ill mannered behavior!

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Paytonlee

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Posted: 9 years ago

Yes she is undisciplined. But is it her fault? Nope its not. when u have parents like hers she is bound to be like this. she needs someone to discipline her but there is no one to do that because her parents are too busy in their own lives.

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anonee

@anonee

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Paytonlee
Yes she is undisciplined. But is it her fault? Nope its not. when u have parents like hers she is bound to be like this. she needs someone to discipline her but there is no one to do that because her parents are too busy in their own lives.

The issue is not whose fault it is - this type of name-calling and blame-finding is exactly what Asha is engaged in - and trying to do in order to perpetrate Avni's behavior and absolve herself of not being a good mother by addressing the issue.

The issue is that by being undisciplined and ill-mannered she is manifesting severe symptoms of an emotionally disturbed child. And needs immediate professional attention. She needs the guidance, love and attention - from some one like Neela.

She is developing the habit of being violent and tends to cause physical injury to others. This is called aggravated assault or criminal behavior - what she is doing is a crime, that can land her in jail.

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Posted: 9 years ago

More than Avni daya is uncivilised she has been constantly accusing Avni as a bas***d.
If Daya is proud of her up brining then why could not her sanskar stop her so called impotent son to sleep with a Muslim lady father a child and keep it hidden.
If I would have been Avni I would have told Daya that you have raised your kid to be a bas***d

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anonee

@anonee

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Nandini30
More than Avni daya is uncivilised she has been constantly accusing Avni as a bas***d.
If Daya is proud of her up brining then why could not her sanskar stop her so called impotent son to sleep with a Muslim lady father a child and keep it hidden.
If I would have been Avni I would have told Daya that you have raised your kid to be a bas***d

Daya is not committing a criminal act. Avni is doing so.

Avni entered Daya's house in stealth, hid like a thief, and was disrespectful to her and was refusing to leave. It is Avni who was being uncivilized. Yes, Dayaben called her a najayaaz - but why did Avni over-react to it and act like a criminal?

The problem is that the term najayaaz is being given a negative connotation by Avni - and that is being supported by all around her. Why is it necessary to give it a negative connotation? As correctly pointed by her - she has all the rights and privileges as any other person. Why did Asha react in a negative manner to that word - after all she desired and happily accepted and lived a najayaaz relationship for 11 years. She embedded and reinforced the negative connotation of the 'najayaaz' word in Avni's thought process.

Daya was not aware of Asha or Avni's existence in her son's life for 11 years. She is not being proud - she is not proud of Ashish either.

A troubled child needs help - the first step is to correct and set right the thought process that is provoking negative behavior. So, it important that she understand the influence the word 'najayaaz' has on her because she is accepting its negative intonation. Her mother is passing on the blame to others without accepting that the root cause lies in her philosophy of marriage and extramarital sex. Asha is not addressing Avni's problem she is making it worse.

Avni needs help and guidance from an understanding adult. So that Daya's or any other persons taunting comment and use of the word najayaaz does not provoke her to feel or act negatively.

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: anonee

Daya is not committing a criminal act. Avni is doing so.

Avni entered Daya's house in stealth, hid like a thief, and was disrespectful to her and was refusing to leave. It is Avni who was being uncivilized. Yes, Dayaben called her a najayaaz - but why did Avni over-react to it and act like a criminal?

The problem is that the term najayaaz is being given a negative connotation by Avni - and that is being supported by all around her. Why is it necessary to give it a negative connotation? As correctly pointed by her - she has all the rights and privileges as any other person. Why did Asha react in a negative manner to that word - after all she desired and happily accepted and lived a najayaaz relationship for 11 years. She embedded and reinforced the negative connotation of the 'najayaaz' word in Avni's thought process.

Daya was not aware of Asha or Avni's existence in her son's life for 11 years. She is not being proud - she is not proud of Ashish either.

A troubled child needs help - the first step is to correct and set right the thought
process that is provoking negative behavior. So, it important that she understand the influence the word 'najayaaz' has on her because she is accepting its negative intonation. Her mother is passing on the blame to others without accepting that the root cause lies in her philosophy of marriage and extramarital sex. Asha is not addressing Avni's problem she is making it worse.

Avni needs help and guidance from an understanding adult. So that Daya's or any other persons taunting comment and use of the word najayaaz does not provoke her to feel or act negatively.

Why asha is made the target is Ashish free from all responsibility but you cannot expect anything from that spineless idiot and his nazayez mother
Sorry more than Avni that old lady is uncultured and indisciplined. Which code of law gives her power to threaten to kill Avni n asha she has been behaving like a criminal from day one possessive pshyco control freak mom

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anonee

@anonee

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Nandini30

Why asha is made the target is Ashish free from all responsibility but you cannot expect anything from that spineless idiot and his nazayez mother
Sorry more than Avni that old lady is uncultured and indisciplined. Which code of law gives her power to threaten to kill Avni n asha she has been behaving like a criminal from day one possessive pshyco control freak mom

Asha is not being made the target. Asha's responses to Avni's behavior are being mentioned because she felt it to be acceptable behavior and is clueless about Avni's mental state. Ashish is not being mentioned because he knows Avni is wrong and wants to correct her thought process.

Avni needs help!!

Dayaben is using threat to get Ashish realize what she believes to be the truth about Asha. She may not deliver on her threat. As her main concern is to knock some sense into Ashish, given what she believes about Asha.

She may be a controlling mom - and yes, she has some psychological problems too - but she is not committing a crime.

Avni is a growing child - that is a fact no one can ignore. And children need to be taught to cope and respond in a healthy manner as in this case. In my opinion, that is a priority. So, I am highlighting her actions in order to showcase her mental distraught. My appeal is that she get help - so that she does suppress her negative emotions and use assault to channel her frustration!

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Sam

@shaffa

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Posted: 9 years ago

Avni is not undisciplined she is a 10 year old child who just wants a normal family. She is just finding out the truth about her parents. People are calling her najayaaz bas...d with haltered.

Ashish in front of reporters refused to recognize her and then came to say sorry, Ashish has let Avni down in every way not once has he been supportive off her his mother called her and Asha filthy names and he did nothing.

Daya is blackmailing her son and Torturing him mentally she is Forcing him into a marriage he doesn't want. keeping the truth from Neela. Bulling her servants treating people in lower class as dirt.

Asha supported Avni and told Ashish the truth for the last 11 years what they have done isn't Avin's

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anonee

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: shaffa
Avni is not undisciplined she is a 10 year old child who just wants a normal family. She is just finding out the truth about her parents. People are calling her najayaaz bas...d with haltered.
Ashish in front of reporters refused to recognize her and then came to say sorry, Ashish has let Avni down in every way not once has he been supportive off her his mother called her and Asha filthy names and he did nothing.

Daya is blackmailing her son and Torturing him mentally she is Forcing him into a marriage he doesn't want. keeping the truth from Neela. Bulling her servants treating people in lower class as dirt.

Asha supported Avni and told Ashish the truth for the last 11 years what they have done isn't Avin's
fault

Her behavior is definitely not that of a disciplined and well mannered child! It is symptomatic of a troubled child. Blaming others does not diminish her acts or dispel her mental anguish. She needs help!

Her need for a normal family may be genuine - but assaulting people is not going to get her one. Her Dadi was not responsible for her mother hiding the fact that she was pregnant with her to her lover, Ashish. If her parents could continue to have romance and sex secretly for 11 years - they could very well have taken an hour one day in those 11 years and got married secretly but they chose not to do so. Asha was correct Avni was not responsible for Ashish-and her inability to provide a normal family - however, Asha was wrong in tacitly approving her being ill mannered and throwing rocks at people so as to injure and cause bodily harm.

Avni has to accept the fact that her mom and dad never intended to give her a normal family and move on. The sooner she does so with the help of a professional the better it is for her.

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drafsul

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Yes Avni's actions were ill mannered towards her dadi but its not that serious as being called criminal ... she is a little child when kids get frustrated they do throw things around oeven over little things and here avni's whole wirld is collapsing .. if a kid bullies them some kids do react by pushing that kid ... she did enter the house by stealth but she did mean to steal anything infact she didn't even eat the food that was offered to her there she only came for her father ... she is ill mannered only towards the ppl who ill treat her in the first plasce ... she just needs to learn to keep calm and not react violently bus now her mother should concentrate on her grooming ... anyways what avni said today to ashish and dayaben isn't realistic at all .. no kid speaks like that .. they are showing avni over the top ... avni toh phir bhi bacchi hai miss daya ben is such a matured old person but still she ill treats so many ppl ... even though avni is badly hurt and going through a lot right now her behaviour isnt correct and she should be rectified which can be done just by ayesha being a proper mother to her her and taking right actions .. Dayaben is such an elder person lekin itni choti bacchi se aise baat karte hue itni si bhi jhijak nahin aayi unko ... unke buddhe ghode bete ne unko dhoka diya osme us massom bacchi ka kya dosh .. but she is still calling her son mera batook aur woh massom jaan jiske haath main kuch nahin thha usse itni sari cheezein suna di .. she is the one who can be called criminal ... she is cheating neela by hiding ashish's truth , she is emotinally torturing her own son , she threatens ashish to smile otherwise she will harm ayesha and avni ( gosh such a psyco ) , she speaks so much about morals and good upbringing but does not have the courage to take up the responsibility of her sons mistakes .. what kind of a moral is it to snatch away a child's father .. what kind of moral is it to make a child suffer .. okay don't accept ayesha but what about avni ... dayaben is the one who is mentally ill due to her hatred and she is the one who seriously needs help

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