Fall from grace! A new beginning.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Todays episode brought out the bad in all 3 leads Shravan, Sumo and Adi.

Sumo for going ahead with a marriage where she could not bear the touch of her fiance. All for family and Nanu. What about the guy, his family, his feelings? Dead wood is not the right way my girl! She may have started the course of the events. But the results are not of her making and she is a victim for one more day... before she turns into Sumo and starts being a little selfish. Hopefully 😃

Aditya, in his defense he does try to talk to Sumo and she does not talk to him. He goes into her room and he tries to tie her dori and she tells him "Yeh kya battameezi" What would she do on Suhag rath? Then comes the crude part. He is more interested in the sex part than the marriage. Crude... but it also conveys the fact that she has no interest in him. Adi knows that. a honorable man would have called off the wedding. But the venom that Shravan filled in him makes him do something that is disgusting and deplorable.

Shravan, the less said about this Teda Shravan the better. How, he uses Sumo as a tool to get back at Adi and Nirmala. He compromises his friendship, his friend and puts her in a dangerous situation. Why? For daring to reject him? His act is no less disgusting or deplorable than Adi. This is the teda Shravan's naked face.

The young Shravan in his letter asks Sumo...Is this love?

We come back to the same question with Shravan. What he feels for Sumo after 10 years, is this love? The party where he insults her, Khosla he let her go but saves her in the nth minute, with Nirmala, anger and rage, PCT he blasts her without listening to her, Accident had he warned her she wouldn't have met with the accident. He has not understood Suman at all. He has taken her trust and faith in him for granted. But she has always waited for him all the way through.. for him to come around... till he called her friendship "Kokli Dosti" That day he closed all channels between them... maybe she would have gone back to him then too... waited for him. But fate happened.

His insecurities are blinding him, the day Lalaji was talking to him about friendship, Shravan could not look at himself in the mirror. He could not bear what he has become, what he has lost, losing. He was ashamed of the teda Shravan.

But, till recently no matter what his fault Sumo always came back to him. Even tomorrow she is going to run to him. Will he realize anything? Or is it too late?

A long time back Sumo said... that she could forget this new Shravan... but could never forget her sweet friend of their school days. Shravan, with what he has done today has crossed that line and indeed is going to make her regret her friendship 😭.

He has truly lost Sumo now... She can be right next to him, but he would be no better than an Adi to her. Because this is not the Shravan that she loved. Indifference is the word that Shravan should really be scared of now.

Its now time for Shravan to understand what Sumo said after the party insult. "Mein kya hun aur tum kya ho!" Time to understand who Suman / Sumo really is... the part that he never knew even in his school days. The part that he never asked her about.

And for those of you who justify Shravan. An accomplice to murder does not go without punishment. If Adi tried to rape Sumo physically Shravan has purposefully spewed enough venom in Adi. Willfully let Sumo get hurt. I compare Shravans act to Inception, of how a thought is planted in a person's mind, willfully, knowing where that could lead. Shravan deliberately planted that thought in Adithya's mind. He set the dice rolling...

Imagine if Adi had managed the same feat after marriage in their suhag raath then? Shravan sowed the doubt of infidelity of Sumo in Adi's mind... deliberately and decides to not bother about the consequences. This would not be acceptable to any man in any part of the world. The reactions might differ but Shravan with what he said and implied, did irreparable damage not just to the woman but also put her in danger. This is going to haunt him for a long time.

Shravan Malhotra's fall from grace is infact the beginning of the new chapter.

Understanding that this is not Sumo's Shravan and making an effort to get there... We are going to hopefully see Ramu's Shravan's journey towards Suman and discovering her in the process. Trusting Suman with his life, the same way she used to...

I am looking forward to this journey of him making her his friend again. Can he now?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I have always maintained one thing from the beging of this track...all three are grey and wrong on their parts...yes waiting for the future story to unfold...
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Popps,

Did Aditya for a sec think maybe Shravan said this to spite him.. After all that was what he had been doing so long... Did he ask Sumo about it? He said that she isn't sanskari n he isn't interested in wedding... Only interest was in doing the deed... Gosh... He has been only lusting for her since the beginning... Love, my foot... I would have still understood if he asked her even once if it's the truth... No... He is like you are not sanskari implying you have done it before so why not now... Damn... A no means a no, buddy... But your thick head doesn't register it...
No matter what Shravan said... It can't bring about molestation or physical assault as a reaction... Say ShraMan had done it... Then what? Aditya would molest her saying you did it before, it's not new to you... Is that so...
I agree absolutely what Shravan said was wrong... He needs to repent fir his words... But he is in no way responsible for what Aditya does...
I agree that all three of them are grey... I said this yesterday.. That's what I love in the show... Characters aren't white, nobody is a saint... That's what makes it real n human.
Shravan's fall from grace is a new beginning... From here on would be his journey towards redemption... Im very interested to see how it unfolds..

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Beautiful post Poppinns ! Much needed.
I was getting tired of Sumo vs Shravan so now the CVs have helped us move on to Sumo vs Shravan vs Adithya 😉

Suman : Honestly what is she trying to do ? You don't want to talk to the guy. His touch is unbearable and yet she choses to go ahead with the wedding ? There is no one to blame for that. I really felt bad for Sumo when Naanu forced her, but I expected Sumo to be honest with Adithya that she will need time after marriage because she was not ready for this and that she is doing it for Naanu. She doesn't have to tell him anything about Shravan, not that there was something in the first place.
Does Sumo think that if she gets married and her extended family moves to the USA no one is going to know how she is ? I understand she is broken but girl this is so not done. What happens if the very Naanu for whom she is doing this comes to know after the wedding that she agreed because of him, what will happen to him ? Or does she think she can put on a facade for the rest of her life ?
I am a Sumo person through and through but this is her fault, completely.

Shravan : Its high time he stops getting manipulated by every Tom,Dick and Harry. Kabhi Ramnath, Kabhi kamini, Kabhi Nirmala toh kabhi Adithya. At this rate even I can manipulate him. What is the point of ordering Tulips from Europe when you have thrown your relationship under the bus ? I am done talking about him after about 10 pages of ranting yesterday.

Adithya : So this is it. This is the real Adithya, the monster won huh ? He doesn't stop to think at all. I don't think he is even human. Forget the sixth sense, I don't think he even has one sense. The lesser said about him the better. A 2 year old can understand what a "yes" is and what a "no" is . If he can't then he is in need of treatment, be it in jail or in an institution.

The point though is the "Sumo ka Shravan & Shravan ki Sumo" , they both aren't there anymore.
What happened to them ? They are lost, they may survive but they will not be complete.
But this is necessary. Shravan will have to learn to trust. And Sumo will have to throw out the feeling that she is an abla nari who will sacrifice her entire life for her family or her feeling of indebtedness.

They cannot be life partners or even good friends till they learn to communicate.They both have limited listening abilities and excess speaking abilities. Time they changed. Time they started again.
"Begin and the beginning and go on till you come to the end and then stop."

Edited by nith125 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@poppins,

we both had so similar thoughts about all the three characters throughout... I would say how Adi and Niru instigated Shravan to reveal his worst, both Shraman did the same to Adi and the situations did it to Suman...

Suman was so wrong in accepting to marry a guy who she can't even stand... she should have rejected staright away even in that worst situation and explained it to the family... but she couldn't, can't do anything other than pity her for it but its so wrong to take down Adi along with her... she should have opened up with Adi and made him reject her but instead tried to ignore him... Is it possible to ignore your husband!! Girl, she was about to do so wrong with both Adi and herself...

Shravan, from now its his time to mend his ways ad thought-process... he will have to face indifference from now on (Suman will never be able to hate him)... indifference is more tough to handle than hatred

Aditya, he tried and retried many times all over to clarify his doubts... how can he cancel his wedding based on doubts, so he din't and kept trying until the end to know the truth in which he disastrously failed... many might bash me here but whatever Adi did is in his anger and when he cools down how would he be able to face himself... he isn't a bad guy to start with who finally became this and even guys can be sensitive... If in reality this all happens to a guy like Aditya, he might end himself as now even his mom would hate him...

Human emotions are so complex to decipher... and many might feel I'm supporting Adi but I'm not... actually I can't as I've a really bad memory for myself... this track is too depressing, I think I should avoid tomorrow's episode

I'm glad that Suman is so strong and is able to go back to her old-self... but experiences like these leave a scarring effect on any girl's life... Will she be okay even when Shravan's truth will be out in the open?? I don't think so as most girls give more importance to the relations made by heart overtime...
Edited by --Amulya-- - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss

Todays episode brought out the bad in all 3 leads Shravan, Sumo and Adi.

Sumo for going ahead with a marriage where she could not bear the touch of her fiance. All for family and Nanu. What about the guy, his family, his feelings? Dead wood is not the right way my girl! She may have started the course of the events. But the results are not of her making and she is a victim for one more day... before she turns into Sumo and starts being a little selfish. Hopefully 😃

Aditya, in his defense he does try to talk to Sumo and she does not talk to him. He goes into her room and he tries to tie her dori and she tells him "Yeh kya battameezi" What would she do on Suhag rath? Then comes the crude part. He is more interested in the sex part than the marriage. Crude... but it also conveys the fact that she has no interest in him. Adi knows that. a honorable man would have called off the wedding. But the venom that Shravan filled in him makes him do something that is disgusting and deplorable.

Shravan, the less said about this Teda Shravan the better. How, he uses Sumo as a tool to get back at Adi and Nirmala. He compromises his friendship, his friend and puts her in a dangerous situation. Why? For daring to reject him? His act is no less disgusting or deplorable than Adi. This is the teda Shravan's naked face.

The young Shravan in his letter asks Sumo...Is this love?

We come back to the same question with Shravan. What he feels for Sumo after 10 years, is this love? The party where he insults her, Khosla he let her go but saves her in the nth minute, with Nirmala, anger and rage, PCT he blasts her without listening to her, Accident had he warned her she wouldn't have met with the accident. He has not understood Suman at all. He has taken her trust and faith in him for granted. But she has always waited for him all the way through.. for him to come around... till he called her friendship "Kokli Dosti" That day he closed all channels between them... maybe she would have gone back to him then too... waited for him. But fate happened.

His insecurities are blinding him, the day Lalaji was talking to him about friendship, Shravan could not look at himself in the mirror. He could not bear what he has become, what he has lost, losing. He was ashamed of the teda Shravan.

But, till recently no matter what his fault Sumo always came back to him. Even tomorrow she is going to run to him. Will he realize anything? Or is it too late?

A long time back Sumo said... that she could forget this new Shravan... but could never forget her sweet friend of their school days. Shravan, with what he has done today has crossed that line and indeed is going to make her regret her friendship 😭.

He has truly lost Sumo now... She can be right next to him, but he would be no better than an Adi to her. Because this is not the Shravan that she loved. Indifference is the word that Shravan should really be scared of now.

Its now time for Shravan to understand what Sumo said after the party insult. "Mein kya hun aur tum kya ho!" Time to understand who Suman / Sumo really is... the part that he never knew even in his school days. The part that he never asked her about.

And for those of you who justify Shravan. An accomplice to murder does not go without punishment. If Adi tried to rape Sumo physically Shravan has purposefully spewed enough venom in Adi. Willfully let Sumo get hurt.

Imagine if Adi had managed the same feat after marriage in their suhag raath then? Shravan sowed the doubt of fidelity of Sumo in Adi's mind... deliberately and decides to not bother about the consequences. This would not be acceptable to any man in any part of the world. The reactions might differ but Shravan with what he said and implied, did irreparable damage not just to the woman but also put her in danger. This is going to haunt him for a long time.

Shravan Malhotra's fall from grace is infact the beginning of the new chapter.

Understanding that this is not Sumo's Shravan and making an effort to get there... We are going to hopefully see Ramu's Shravan's journey towards Suman and discovering her in the process. Trusting Suman with his life, the same way she used to...

I am looking forward to this journey of him making her his friend again. Can he now?

Totally agree...word to word!

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Originally posted by: Roshni2015

Popps,

Did Aditya for a sec think maybe Shravan said this to spite him.. After all that was what he had been doing so long... Did he ask Sumo about it? He said that she isn't sanskari n he isn't interested in wedding... Only interest was in doing the deed... Gosh... He has been only lusting for her since the beginning... Love, my foot... I would have still understood if he asked her even once if it's the truth... No... He is like you are not sanskari implying you have done it before so why not now... Damn... A no means a no, buddy... But your thick head doesn't register it...
No matter what Shravan said... It can't bring about molestation or physical assault as a reaction... Say ShraMan had done it... Then what? Aditya would molest her saying you did it before, it's not new to you... Is that so...
I agree absolutely what Shravan said was wrong... He needs to repent fir his words... But he is in no way responsible for what Aditya does...
I agree that all three of them are grey... I said this yesterday.. That's what I love in the show... Characters aren't white, nobody is a saint... That's what makes it real n human.
Shravan's fall from grace is a new beginning... From here on would be his journey towards redemption... Im very interested to see how it unfolds..


But Rosh, we miss a point here... Sumo's utter lack of interest in Adithya.

The guy is rankled by that... In his defense he has asked her enough times about it and she always said yes to him but her behavior was a big NO NO.

Adithya is deplorable in his behavior no doubts there.

BUT, Shravan is responsible for what Adithya does... he planted that thought in him... like in the movie Inception 😃, if you have seen it.

That thought has festered into this monster in a days time. And Shravan himself feels... if he did do something wrong? Why? He is not responsible for Adi's act. But he is responsible for his act, that led to Adi's act 😃. Shravan did what he did with the intention to cause harm. He knew the effect that would have on Adithya, he continued to the act subtly in the mandap today as well. That my friend is a bigger sin.

A physical pain heals with time. An emotional pain takes a very long time to heal and sometimes never really heals. Look at Shravan's own past. Adithya does not matter to Sumo and with time she will forget that incident. But what Shravan did is going to change / define EVERYTHING.

Because this is the very person whom she trusted with her life.

Shravan to me is guilty as charged.
Edited by poppinss - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Brilliant post!😊

All three are so very wrong. Suman for giving her consent to the marriage when she can't even bear to talk to Aditya. Shravan for making Sumo into collateral damage in his war with Nirmala and Aditya. And Aditya for being extremely irritating, provoking and scarily angry.

All three are abusive with their words. Aditya of course went off the rails and started physical abuse. All three make stupid decisions. The whole trio is at fault, frankly.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Amulya--

@poppins,

we both had so similar thoughts about all the three characters throughout... I would say how Adi and Niru instigated Shravan to reveal his worst, both Shraman did the same to Adi and the situations did it to Suman...


Amulya, yes we do 😃. But even if people instigated him... he was the one to act. So Shravan is fully responsible for that act. Because he was the only one who could have changed the outcome on that fateful day.
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A very well written thoughtful post! totally agree about Sumo and Adi...
about Shravan wud like to add thatin a fit of rage and blinded by feeling of revenge he has overlooked who he has put a bait as... and I see what Ramnath said as true... Shravan is his shadow... Ramu put Shravan ...most loved "posession" of his as bait both in his vengence against Nirmala and Sumo without thinking of the consequences and Shravan did the same thing... and u very rightly said... now the journey has to be from Ramus Shravan to Sumos Shravan... but what's done is that even repairable is the question that lingers!!
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