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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: PlainJane

Brilliant post!😊

All three are so very wrong. Suman for giving her consent to the marriage when she can't even bear to talk to Aditya. Shravan for making Sumo into collateral damage in his war with Nirmala and Aditya. And Aditya for being extremely irritating, provoking and scarily angry.

All three are abusive with their words. Aditya of course went off the rails and started physical abuse. All three make stupid decisions. The whole trio is at fault, frankly.


Thank you Jane. But for some reason... I hate Shravan the most in this trio and Sumo the least. She put him on a pedestal and how he falls 😭

Adi was heading there anyways... so no surprises with him.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nancyrio90

A very well written thoughtful post! totally agree about Sumo and Adi...

about Shravan wud like to add thatin a fit of rage and blinded by feeling of revenge he has overlooked who he has put a bait as... and I see what Ramnath said as true... Shravan is his shadow... Ramu put Shravan ...most loved "posession" of his as bait both in his vengence against Nirmala and Sumo without thinking of the consequences and Shravan did the same thing... and u very rightly said... now the journey has to be from Ramus Shravan to Sumos Shravan... but what's done is even repairable is the question that lingers!!


Thank you Nancy. Its irreparable. That is why everything need to start from scratch 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss


But Rosh, we miss a point here... Sumo's utter lack of interest in Adi, sometimes not at all. The guy is rankled by that... In his defense he has asked her enough times about it and she always said yes to him but her behavior was a big NO NO.

Adi is deplorable in his behavior no doubts there. BUT, Shravan is responsible for what Adithya does... he planted that thought in him... like in the movie Inception 😃, if you have seen it. That thought has festered into this monster in a days time. And Shravan himself feels... did I do something wrong? Why? He is not responsible for Adi's act. But he is responsible for his act, that led to Adi's act 😃. That my friend is a bigger sin.

A physical pain heals with time. An emotional pain takes a very long time to heal and sometimes never really heals. Look at Shravan's own past. Adi does not matter to Sumo and with time she will forget that incident. But what Shravan did is going to change EVERYTHING.

Because this is the very person whom she trusted with her life. Shravan to me is guilty as charged.

Shravan is guilty... But ONLY bcz of what he said about their relationship... He demeaned it to spite two other people n that was wrong... He didn't set off any chain reaction that results in Aditya's assault on Sumo.
If someone comes n says in the past A n B have had an intimate relation... Would C go n assault A? What logic is this? The max he could do is shout, be angry.. Cancel the wedding saying you are not worth it.. How come a molestation? How are we justifying a crime luke molestation...for heaven's sake...
Of course I have seen Inception.. And this is nothing like it..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roshni2015

Shravan is guilty... But ONLY bcz of what he said about their relationship... He demeaned it to spite two other people n that was wrong... He didn't set off any chain reaction that results in Aditya's assault on Sumo.
If someone comes n says in the past A n B have had an intimate relation... Would C go n assault A? What logic is this? The max he could do is shout, be angry.. Cancel the wedding saying you are not worth it.. How come a molestation? How are we justifying a crime luke molestation...for heaven's sake...
Of course I have seen Inception.. And this is nothing like it..


Why would cancelling the wedding and public humiliation be any less hurtful? The premise is the same Rosh, Shravan was the one to role the dice. Had he not rolled the dice this day would not have come.

If, Adi had married Sumo. How do you think her life would have been? It is very difficult to remove a doubt that is sown in ones mind. Once again look at Shravan himself... he is the product of his own doubts about Sumo.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Rosh
Either poppins or me we both aren't supporting Adi... we can't do it as we both are also girls just like you all... no offence even if you all don't understand our POV but plz don't say that we are trying to justify Adi's criminal act because we aren't...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss


Thank you Jane. But for some reason... I hate Shravan the most in this trio and Sumo the least. She put him on a pedestal and how he falls 😭

Adi was heading there anyways... so no surprises with him.


I too think Sumo is the least at fault. As for Aditya, I am biased against him. So, naturally I will blame him. I can't help it.

Won't say anything about Shravan. He has HUGE amends to make. And I understand your anger for him is totally justified.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Poppins👏
I have two words for you, nailed it!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: orion23

Poppins👏

I have two words for you, nailed it!
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Thank you Orion 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Amulya--

@Rosh

Either poppins or me we both aren't supporting Adi... we can't do it as we both are also girls just like you all... no offence even if you all don't understand our POV but plz don't say that we are trying to justify Adi's criminal act because we aren't...

Hey.
The justifying comment was generalized... Didn't absolutely mean you or Popps..
Guys sorry If I came across wrong...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss


Amulya, yes we do 😃. But even if people instigated him... he was the one to act. So Shravan is fully responsible for that act. Because he was the only one who could have changed the outcome on that fateful day.



Sorry Poppins, but these are dark lanes that we are walking through now... By calling Shravan responsible for what Aditya did, we are giving entitled people like Aditya Ahuja a whole bunch of fig leaves to hide behind.

Slightly going off on a tangent here, but tell me this: Can anything/anyone ever be responsible for sexual assault other than the perpetrator? NO.

Today, we say Shravan made Aditya force himself on Suman, tomorrow someone else might come up with a different trigger. It just opens the floodgates for shifting the blame away from the assaulter.

Shravan was wrong to say what he did. (I'd say that even if the two had really shared a physical relationship, Shravan would still have no right to share it with someone without Sumo's consent). Period. He cannot use Nirmala and Aditya's behavior toward him to justify his words and escape the consequence of his actions. He used Sumo. Yes. He should have hell to pay. Absolutely yes!

But is he responsible for Aditya's monstrosity? No. That action is totally owned by Aditya.
Why?
Because only Aditya (not Shravan) could've changed the outcome by choosing not to act in the way he did.

Sorry Poppins, have spent some years volunteering with sexual assault and domestic violence organizations, and couldn't stem the flow of emotions.
I know this is a fictional show, but the people discussing the scenarios here on the forum are very much real. And we shape the real world we live in.

Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings today.


Edited by an_chau - 9 years ago

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