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Posted: 9 years ago
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Short post since I watched the epi late...😳...and missed some bits here and there (teeny weeny😉)
First of all, HATS OFF to the Director and Namik! 👏That scene with the goons felt like the perfection of a decent hindi movie. My only thought as I watched it- Man! This guy is good. Wonder if he will migrate to the movies soon...Hope he doesn't...and this Director absolutely ROCKSSS! 👏

Moving on to the new Shravan.

Sigh...How far we have travelled from the days when we felt Suman would never agree for Aditya and Shravan would never say this...their entire world has turned upside down in a matter of 2 or 3 weeks...I wouldn't call it bad writing...Just that things can reach this explosive level if not handled at the root..

So our new Shravan...He says he will give pain...That he will be tedha...

And in the precap we see an ever smiling Shravan...there is no trace of anger on his face,...he is so calm and composed..like the perfect friend who would want the best for his best friend...This is the tedha roop? Sweet talk his way through the pair about to be wedded...not giving out a trace of his intentions...and strike when the time is right...so she feels the pain he feels...

Sumo will probably never see an angry Shravan she might want to reason with...Instead she will get a mask that refuses to show his true feelings...truly a nightmare... (However, I don't agree with the IPK scenario being repeated in case there is a marriage. There the FL had no clue what had been going through the hero's head...Here, Sumo knows. And Shravan is way too respectful to be rude to any woman, especially when he has accorded her the stranger status...he is going to be painfully cordial with her, probably... )

The episode as such...Beautifully made...capturing the transition from the man to the mean machine...KUDOS TO TEAM EDKV! 👏


My explanation for Sumo CPed from veritaserum's post.


Suman has decided to listen to the teenage Sumo after a long time, because that girl had been a super girl..a Rock..Nothing could shake her...May be that girl had more sense...May be she was handling this all wrong, melting for Shravan every second and letting go of her resolve to stay strong...For the guy had been utmost rude and insulting and scathing...and had condemned her to something that was unimaginable...It seemed to come from the depths of him...calling her UGLY...it had shaken her like nothing else had...That he could harbour so much HATRED for her...
More than HURT, she saw HATRED that day...


That is why when her heart melts for Shravan she reminds herself that he HATES her...It is not a convenient way to escape him..just the TRUTH as she feels comes from him... ..

Even I was hoping for empathy...had been banking on it...But it came and went...Because she had lost all hope.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Loved Namik 'a acting. More so while driving and he had tears flowing. My heart went out to him. Poor thing.

It's so late that I am off to bed but will be commenting all through the day tomorrow.

One question- you think he will move towards marrying her?

And this is not going IPK way---I Do Not think it is.

Good night 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Chick, you rock. I was about to make a post on what is the new Shravan V3 and I see that as your subject. 😊

Now about the post... IF we do get a civil Shravan and a silent Sumo... where would the fireworks be?

How would he strike? Does he think that getting married to Adi is all that she craves for now?

So would he try to break that marriage? More questions than answers...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Why wouldn't you call it bad writing? All the extrapolation and justification is happening at our end, story/ character arcs on its own is nonsensical.

No harm in calling a spade a spade. Any good novel/ script reaches the high point organically, audience need not bear with illogical subplots in the hope of story making sense in future. I'm not being unnecessarily harsh, I thought the episode was best so far this week and I liked bits and pieces (everything with Shravan in it 😃 )
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shravan wants to be a new Shravan with a new protective barrier. Sumo wants to be the old Sumo with resurrection of her protective barrier. So what will happen when the old carefree Sumo meets the new tedha Shravan?

Once upon a time she had told him that if he went away she would look for him and if she could not find him she would wait until he returned. She told his father that if he was ever distressed she would not be able to hold herself back and go to him.

So when Sumo can't find her Shravan will she try to find him or will she try to protect herself against more hurt?

The plot thickens with twists and turns but I am curious to see how this will all come together.

Chick, agree with you. Namik's acting was amazing. The subtle longing expressions during the ceremony, giving way to the shock and hurt with news of Sumo's upcoming marriage followed by the bland empty expressions when he was alone drinking and then the rage. What a repertoire for an actor so new to the profession.

Even when the story sags it is the actors and their taken that keeps us coming back. Well done Namik and Nikita.👏
Edited by peachesandcream - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The problem is by creating a story incongruous with other serials of our time on Indian TV, the makers of this TV serial have created their own monsters of expectation out of the audience. And we expect and we expect - them to excel in their creativity and story telling. In doing so we analyze, possibly over analyse, and attribute virtues to certain characters and assign fundamental faults to others. We analyse and predict and come up with permutations and combinations of story lines as we would write them. Often the creatives have something else in mind succumbing to extended finish dates (so catering to a sudden need to extend a short and crisp plot) and of course the TRP devil. So our permutations and combinations come to naught and we get disillusioned or, we try and justify weak irrational twists and turns, to explain the time we spend thinking and speculating about this piece of fiction.

I look for a piece of reality when I watch Edkv. In fact I had come to expect it from this soap. So while allowing a little bit and more creative Liberty, would someone I know completely change their personality because they are disillusioned with love? No! They would be cautious as hell, and would possibly retreat. But their intrinsic character, the one they have lived for however long - from adolescence to adulthood- their core and so their behavior outside would remain the same, with small differences which will form their defence mechanism. So a diabolical Shravan is an oxymoron- the two are completely different. Shravan is the complete opposite of mean and self serving and for him to make this 360 degrees does not hit the right notes with me. So one has to watch and reserve judgement. Because had I written this, I would still have found other ways of taking the story forward but none of my ideas would fetch good numbers. And the same is probably true of many here. So what will Shravan do? I think his resolve to remain unaffected will be broken very soon, as soon as Nirmala comes in. And my hope of course is that they drag this no further and that Preethi, since she was dragged down to bring these two out of the quicksand, acts fast and pulls them out before they are consumed in a swirl of emotions and hate.

They still have much going for them without prolonging misunderstandings between leads and they have much to keep the two apart longer without nasty misunderstandings. If they looked hard enough they will find a treasure trove of ideas with a wealth of unexplored characters and relationship dynamics. But they need to really look and see and focus less of what the mass want.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Wonderful post as always chick !
Namik was excellent today. The pain is so visible in his eyes that all you feel like is giving Shravan a hug. I must say Sumo exhibited a lot of self control. You could see when she was in the kitchen that she wanted to run to him.For a minute, I wished she had, she could at least have called. It would have calmed him down and he would have said it all because he was so vulnerable at that point.

This Shravan claims to be new, but is he really ? Isn't this the same facade we have seen him put up again and again, when he returned from London, when he refused to help her after she fell down running on his lawn, when the Nirmala incident happened.
It wasn't long before he gave up. This time he is hurt more, so may be a few more days.

That is why they showed us the Preethi-Sumo conversation. They have created an additional ticking clock to keep us hooked. Till now we only had to wonder if SS will communicate and get over the MU, but now we will also watch every scene where Preethi is in with equal intensity, we can't just skip Preekar now as we used to(at least I used to) .

Does Shravan even know what it is to be selfish ? To be selfish would be to do something that you want not thinking about how it will affect the others and not considering what the consequences of his actions will be. Is he capable of doing that ? Himself he will hurt, he will agonise but what I fear is that the new Shravan will hurt Shravan more than anyone else.Is he capable of marrying Sumo without her consent ? Will wait and watch. Have analysed too much this week.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: beagleboy


A diabolical Shravan is an oxymoron- the two are completely different. Shravan is the complete opposite of mean and self serving and for him to make this 360 degrees does not hit the right notes with me.

So what will Shravan do? I think his resolve to remain unaffected will be broken very soon, as soon as Nirmala comes in. And my hope of course is that they drag this no further and that Preethi, since she was dragged down to bring these two out of the quicksand, acts fast and pulls them out before they are consumed in a swirl of emotions and hate.




@bold: TOTALLY. Loved how you put it: diabolical Shravan is indeed an oxymoron

@the rest: i suspect shravan's resolve to remain unaffected will break sooner than that. At the party (yet again a party!) itself. It will perhaps be our first glimpse of the venom he intends ti spew. With Nirmala's entrance, things will get much worse. The fact that Sumo had knowingly said yes to marry Nirmala's son is going to twist the knife further in him. The outburst have been getting uglier, but i fear the worst is yet to come.
But beagle, not betting my bottom dollar on it... 😉 have looked and learned from those smarter than me...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sa1916

Why wouldn't you call it bad writing? All the extrapolation and justification is happening at our end, story/ character arcs on its own is nonsensical.

No harm in calling a spade a spade. Any good novel/ script reaches the high point organically, audience need not bear with illogical subplots in the hope of story making sense in future. I'm not being unnecessarily harsh, I thought the episode was best so far this week and I liked bits and pieces (everything with Shravan in it 😃 )


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Agree with you, bad writing definitely. Characterization gone down the drain. Today's was the only episode I was able to watch without forwarding. I remember sanfan's post from earlier this week, although I didn't agree with her then I am getting her point now ( I am that slow) . And you are not being harsh but are merely stating the facts.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: noexcuse

Loved Namik 'a acting. More so while driving and he had tears flowing. My heart went out to him. Poor thing.

It's so late that I am off to bed but will be commenting all through the day tomorrow.

One question- you think he will move towards marrying her?

And this is not going IPK way---I Do Not think it is.

Good night 😃


Namik's acting is what makes me love this track...Really, Shravan is rocking the world of EDKV.

I don't think he will work towards marrying her...his only aim would be to break her dream wedding...

Phir Kamini will take care of the rest. 😉

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