It is hurting!

True to the core..it is hurting..the way the story has been transformed to..my fingers are shivering when i come to forum to read the WU..I can't tolerate the WU forget about I watching it..I didn't watch the episode from past 2 days since the OLV's have scared me..is this the same Raman who loved Ishu and who wanted Ishu to feel the motherhood..Is this the same Raman who will not spare to hit the other person to death if by mistake they address Ishu as Bhaanj..I have no idea what they want to show..I understand that they need to story in order to get the ball rolling and I understand they want high TRP's but contradicting their own characterization which they built it with so much patience is something tough to accept..I'm happy atleast Ishu is still in the character..leaving the 7 years away from home since the situation pushed her to do..I understand no matter what she can't leave her a day old baby..but she lost her mind when she lost Ruhi on top of it Raman didn't leave a chance to make her feel guilty..what all words he used before leap..what words he is using now..he planned Surrogacy at Ishu back with his ex..Ishu did believed his love took it so postiively..never blamed for anything..because of him she missed Pihu baby steps..Pihu first talk..first walk. what not..I'm crying while I'm typing it..I understand its a fictional story where we are not supposed to be so much emotionally attached..but this is not logical at all..I'm sure I'm not going to watch tomorrows episode based on precap WU..I believe Ishu is going to blast Raman on Sunday..I'm thinking at least we don't see so much negativity from Monday onwards which slowly would transform to a relation though

I watched only the part of Raman free scenes today ... It's such a shame that I am deliberately avoiding one of the most favourite character of YHM ... Use to avoid Shagun scenes , now avoiding Raman ... What a pity .. What a pity ...

Sorry to say this but they way raman did surrogacy behind ishita's back and choose his ex-wife as the surrogate mother without thinking about her feelings is a shame to a husband wife relationship...and even after the baby's birth we can clearly see how much ishita felt motherhood...she didn't carried the baby, didn't felt the different phases of pregnancy, didn't got the pampering a pregnant lady gets instead what she saw how her sauten got all of it right in front of her and what she got.?..the same person who wanted to remove her baanjh tag again and again reminding her about her inability to give birth and how she is worst than a step mom together with many more name callings... and in today's precap he broke all the record of insult where he shamelessly declared his ex-wife and surrogate mother as the real mom of the child (irrespective of whether he really meant or not)...Now the question naturally comes what was the purpose of surrogacy? Even after all these does raman still thinks he fulfilled ishit'as desire to have her own baby?...But i am afraid the answer is yes...when everything will become normal he will declare her as the asli maa and everything will be fine...But the truth is by surrogacy he became the father for the 3rd time but ishita remained as she was before her marriage...the only difference is like ruhi and adi she got one more grown up kid to raise.

The story is such that it touches every woman and even though we know Raman loves her etc, it never justifies the words he is uttering. He has lost all his senses..but how many times a person does that, i lost count. Surrogacy I believe is the lowest point in the serial (story wise) for me. He violated her rights as a mother, woman and wife in one stroke all in the name of love. How can Ishita claim Pihu as her kid in the face overwhelming opposition from her husband who does not recognize her rights as a mother. He has wiped off her existence from his daughters life. her only contribution in bringing Pihu into this world is a signature obtained by betrayal. Husband and wife plan together to bring a child into this world..Here Shagun and Raman made the decision for Pihu, just like they decided to have Adi and Ruhi. This is in itself gross. They both did bin maange ehsaan on her for being a good mother to Adi and Ruhi and now they both are tightly holding on to Pihu from the one woman for whom they took this step without her consent. Raman is insecure, we all get that but for how long, his whole married life and actions have defined by his insecurities which Shagun and Ashok have time and again used for their beefit. He behaved like a business man in personal life, bachhe ka loss huva so fill it..replace the baby. The end result is the same, you have a baby. The process to get the end result is not important. Ishita was so insecure during those days, but she rose above it and accepted (no choice there). Here he is going on about Mani and feeling jealous and is like a raging bull. Shagun was always around his family from the day he got married..(because of CVs, I know), we did not see a Ishita behaving like that (maybe she should have😊).

My problem is that these idiots are unnecessarily demeaning women in such situations 😡

Yes...I too feel ishita is a mother to pihu only in tecnical terms...how could she feel it is her baby when she was never given a choice in its birth or never been allowed to pamper her...

Originally posted by: Mreddy

The story is such that it touches every woman and even though we know Raman loves her etc, it never justifies the words he is uttering. He has lost all his senses..but how many times a person does that, i lost count. Surrogacy I believe is the lowest point in the serial (story wise) for me. He violated her rights as a mother, woman and wife in one stroke all in the name of love. How can Ishita claim Pihu as her kid in the face overwhelming opposition from her husband who does not recognize her rights as a mother. He has wiped off her existence from his daughters life. her only contribution in bringing Pihu into this world is a signature obtained by betrayal. Husband and wife plan together to bring a child into this world..Here Shagun and Raman made the decision for Pihu, just like they decided to have Adi and Ruhi. This is in itself gross. They both did bin maange ehsaan on her for being a good mother to Adi and Ruhi and now they both are tightly holding on to Pihu from the one woman for whom they took this step without her consent. Raman is insecure, we all get that but for how long, his whole married life and actions have defined by his insecurities which Shagun and Ashok have time and again used for their beefit. He behaved like a business man in personal life, bachhe ka loss huva so fill it..replace the baby. The end result is the same, you have a baby. The process to get the end result is not important. Ishita was so insecure during those days, but she rose above it and accepted (no choice there). Here he is going on about Mani and feeling jealous and is like a raging bull. Shagun was always around his family from the day he got married..(because of CVs, I know), we did not see a Ishita behaving like that (maybe she should have😊).

For me Raman failed as a husband during surrogacy, many might not agree with me. It proved that Ishita is not enough for him, her love is not enough. He clearly drew the lines between step children and blood..with that act. Since that point, I have started developing a detachment to this serial, so post leap, the taunts are hurting to us..but not that much for me..as he has voiced what Ishita probably thought of herself, hence the acceptance. I am watching the lollipops etc just for Divan chemistry.

Personally, when my older daugther was sick when she was a toddler, many suggested to have a second child for the stem cells that could be used if needed. Doctor suggested, many couples in similar yet slighlty different (my situation was not genetic but random) did have one. For both my husband and I, it did not sound right. Sometimes, I think as a mother I should have given every chance for my older one to have a fighting chance, but planning a second in that situation didn't sit well with me. We both wanted the second child to be welcomed just for her sake not for being a sister's keeper. It was indeed a moral dilemma for us, but we did have a second when the older one was out of the woods, by god's grace. So for me I still can't wrap my head around surrogacy, and how can Raman claim to love his wife by doing that act.

This serial is for TRP aunties who take everything in their stride and not think of the moralities of it. Unfortunately for me and for several others, the actors are the pull.

Sorry I ranted a lot, but Raman saying that Shagun is the asli ma, really killed it for me.

I think Raman is right in saying that Shagun is ASLI MAA, as Pihi is her and Raman's PLANNED baby for Ishita without her consent . Very well put by the topic maker as well. For the 10 minutes of so called Ishita and Raman confrontation , I believed and a lot of us believed what Ishita said " you made me feel like bhaanj by going behind my back"...and honesty after surrogacy YHM is definitely not the same as one after other stupid and silly , typical Balaji and Star Plus drama followed, unfortunately TRP is on their side, so there is no hope for sensible track in the future. I watch it for the actors so does most of the members ...for me Ishita should say this loud and clear " Pihu IS yours and Shagun's child, as I had nothing to do with her , she was never my child , you just used the excuse of giving me a status of having a biological child"...and I am very very sure that nothing like that would be said, the drama would continue...

Originally posted by: ishrafan_us

@Mreddy first of all let me thank you for sharing your personal story. What you and your husband fid is so commendable.👏👏 i am also happy to hear that your daughter is doing well and she has a sibling to have fun.😊

For me no child should be brought in to this world as fulfilling a need or accidentally. They should be coming into this world as a symbol of both husband and wife's love for each other. What you and your husband did I'm sure it must be an emotional decision for you both and im happy to hear all is well.

Let me share something from my end - i had a history of miscarriages and it was really tough for me to conceive. So after my daughter was born again after miscarriages it took me 6years to conceive. Recently my son who is 18 came and asked me am i accidental born? When i asked what kind of question is that he mentioned that all his friends were talking about themselves so since he had a huge gap with his sister he was just asking that. I told him it was not accident i could see his face lighting up. Then i told him that i had a history of miscarriages so it got delayed. May be lot of people msy not agree my sharing with my son but it was important for him and i needed to be honest with him.

Coming back to the story I'm sure we all got connected at different levels. Me its even more personal as it reflects so much like my story - a intercaste marriage though its love marriage unlike Ishita and Raman but there were so many similarities - thankfully no param and no shagun in my life. And my kids are my own. And some of the heart breaks Ishita faced it opened so many wounds for me too, as my marriage was not accepted by my inlaws we were away from them for 5 years though they were in touch with my husband they never talked to me for 5 years. Just like ruhi ke liye, after my daughter was born they wanted her so I'm allowed. So see I'm more emotionally coonected with this.

Surrogacy and Ramans deception killed it for me. I missed lot of epis too.

The way they are showing it right now I'm going by one epibat a time. The CVS never really explored or justified the protagonists their concentration is always on Shagun. Now too since they are showing shagun and raman in the same bed with pihu they are showing these lollipops. It became disgusting.

I also 100% agree on what you said abiut surrogacy saga and now raman saying shags as asli ma killed it fir me too.

If im in the mood i will watch it if not im going to skip it. Im an online viewer so not contributing to trp any way.

I alwas loved what you write and there are quite a few matured people on this forum with whom sharing the frustration feels good. As in misery loves company.

Btw are you telugu speaking person? I'm also from telugu speaking area. I'm Raji and may i know your name too.

Thank you. I am Madhavi and yes, telugu and settled in Philadelphia. All of us connect to this story in one way or the other..the plight of the kids..because it does make a impression on the kids that they are wanted by both the parents. As you rightly said, not to fulfill a need. This is my first and last desi soap..I never had the patience for the desi soaps before, stick to the singing/comedy/game/dance shows. But Ishita and Ruhi caught my eye when I was surfing the channels and liked the acting..and then the story got me hooked here I am a frustrated viewer, not contributing to the TRP. The way they are callously treating infertile woman appalls me. Miscarriage for Ishita itself was a wound that they treated very liightly and on top of that within days, the husband was planning a replacement for the baby she lost. Just for one character they forgot the morality, decency in treating a sensitive subject. Do the TRP aunties watch this show unmindful of what the kids might be learning from this serial. Or what there young impressionable daughters might be learning from it..to be a doormat and suffer the consequences. We would want raise confident/independant daughters who will have the courage to deal with any situations that come across in life.

Originally posted by: infinity00

I think Raman is right in saying that Shagun is ASLI MAA, as Pihi is her and Raman's PLANNED baby for Ishita without her consent . Very well put by the topic maker as well. For the 10 minutes of so called Ishita and Raman confrontation , I believed and a lot of us believed what Ishita said " you made me feel like bhaanj by going behind my back"...and honesty after surrogacy YHM is definitely not the same as one after other stupid and silly , typical Balaji and Star Plus drama followed, unfortunately TRP is on their side, so there is no hope for sensible track in the future. I watch it for the actors so does most of the members ...for me Ishita should say this loud and clear " Pihu IS yours and Shagun's child, as I had nothing to do with her , she was never my child , you just used the excuse of giving me a status of having a biological child"...and I am very very sure that nothing like that would be said, the drama would continue...