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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rupita

Yes watever sahir has said yesterday that was downright disgusting and insulting to girls but more than sahir its the writer and cvs who should be blamed here...

Firstly this whole situation is a bit of illogical n unrealistic becoz does anyone ever seen saying such personal things in the introductory iv of any contestants... contestants usually speak about their talent and practice sessions not their love lives...cvs are going over the top in their sahir-shreya track. I mean I know reality show are all scripted and full of drama but they show a little bit of fling between the contestants not a whole love story becoz at end of the day its a singing reality show not some dating show...
Both esha and sahir are right in their own places ...sahir was talking S**t that's why esha scolded him and sahir wants to hurt esha that's y he said those things deliberately ...he didn't mean those things...

Sahir need to understand that there is no shame or feeling smaller if ur gf helps to get u work...esha need to sort out her feelings for Sahir . If she wants to be wid him first she learn to trust him and if not than she shouldn't be bother wid whoever sahir interact or flirt with...n also respect the decisions of sahir

In a way esha and sahir are helping each other in career. Sahir being the best contestant can take the show at top for esha and esha being the asst. producer has given a life changing break to sahir...




Dunno wat d writers were thinking before bringing dis fake relationship thing? Its a singing show not Splitsvilla. Dis Shreys is too creep like a female Prem Chopra or female Shakti Kapoor. Kuch sharam-laaj hai hi nahi iss ladki ko. If a contestant give such interview then his career will end before starting n audience will pressurise d show to throw such a contestant out. Wen a hero favours d heroine n is her boss in many shows people see it as romantic. In 70% of stories written in all d shows forums d hero is shown as d heroine's boss. Then why not let d heroine help d hero be degrading now?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_juhi04


Sahir is d one who said d dialogue not cvs. In dat case, next time if Sahir does sumthn nice we sud praise d cvs not Sahir. Right? Cvs sud be careful in wat they show. But while watching a show, we will praise or bash actors doing d roles not cvs. I don't think anyone can chill after hearing such offensive lines. Don't people get offended by seeing d shows where d heroes badly humiliate n torture d heroines? Then why not now?

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Well, my friend if you have such thoughts then it is not right. I'm not going to be judgemental. But many are there who do give the cv's the due they need. If a scene is well - written with proper balancing of emotions then the writer, director and editor needs to get equal credit as the actor. And well if a scene is not the way it should have been then it's authenticity lies within the hands of the writer. How will you blame the actor for it? You can only question him if he was in agreement with the scene. And we all know TV shoots run in a tight schedule that questioning the script can't be done by the actor. And have to deliver what's given to them. I hope you saw today's episode. That would've cleared your doubts about the superlative used. It was to evoke more tension between sahir-isha. And the statement made was solemnly for isha to make her realise his depth of anger. And was definitely not for the women present in the world. And you should be happy after seeing today's scene cuz after such a statement isha just became more strong right?. I hope I've Not sounded rude. But ya...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_juhi04


Sahir is d one who said d dialogue not cvs. In dat case, next time if Sahir does sumthn nice we sud praise d cvs not Sahir. Right? Cvs sud be careful in wat they show. But while watching a show, we will praise or bash actors doing d roles not cvs. I don't think anyone can chill after hearing such offensive lines. Don't people get offended by seeing d shows where d heroes badly humiliate n torture d heroines? Then why not now?


If there is anything wrong or offensive about the show then the creatives are criticized not the actors. Actors are criticized or praised for their acting, screen presence etc etc.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Well firstly I have always found the fake relationship track stupid but then probably a similar kind of build up ,precisely a third person entering IshIr's life and affecting it was what CVs had in mind to take the IshIr lovestory ahead. I won't say that it didn't help at all cuz we got to see the jealous,hurt yet still in love IshIr...And probably today's scene was the ultimate outcome the Cvs wanted to come up with. And it surely would be one of the turning points in their lovestory.So considering that I'd say I'm not completely against this track but I agree it was being over done at times...
Coming to this post, Sahir is a character ,a creative's perception. And Sahir has been this aggressive,outspoken,flawed yet passionate guy. He was never shown as some Mr.goody two shoes, so if he says something unacceptable its only to make his character look realistic. It's not like CVs are trying to give a wrong message. We all know that there maybe definitely many people who would agree with Sahir even today, who think so low of girls. I don't think the cvs did something wrong if they brought a person having such thoughts to light. Finally its an opinion.As girls obviously all of us will find it offensive but that does not mean we can change someone else's opinion.

Also it was evident in the scene itself that Sahir didn't mean any of it.It was just to aggrevate Isha and also to make her and the production team realize that if they can play it unfair with him,so can he. I agree he kind of crossed the line , but when we lose our calm that's what we do, say stuff that we shouldn't be saying. Yeah, if he deserves to be punished it should be only by people who have a right over him ,like Isha whose been with him and such words from him would mean disrespecting her and their realtion,but not any third person, cuz in that case Sahir is just voicing his opinion which may nt go down well with some while some may agree.

This is my opinion, no offense to anyone :)

Shreya
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Posted: 9 years ago
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well,an actor is bound by contract and he/she doesnt involve writting scripts..writing,content,script of a show is totally a responsibility of a creative head and his/her team..an actor just obeyed by the order of the creatives..so if there is someone responsible for such thing you can only blame the creative team not the actor..actors doesnt write script ,dont have any say about the script..sahir or shantanu noone is responsible for it ..its totally cvs blunder
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Posted: 9 years ago
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its totally d script writer's thing. actors r praised fr der acting. unhe jo script diya jata hai , dey r bound to do dat. agar koi scene accha hota hai toh we usually say SCRIPT IS GD & ACTOR DID AN AWSM JOB... not like actors ne apne se khud jake dialogue bola hai. see d logic plz.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Exactly. Actors r praised or criticised fr their acting & not fr wat they say. So if u r offended by the dialogue an actor says then its cause of cvs and not the actor. They can't do anything about the dialogues they get. They just do wat they r told. So its completely cvs & not the actors.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sorry but somewhere i think u have misunderstood the whole situation ..
When sahir said that he sees girls as fun and " use and throw " .. he is not trying to insult any girl or girls ..but making himself look bad infront of TV deliberately .. Even when he and isha was in talking terms with eachother , he didnt like the idea of fake girlfriend .. and now that , isha and him are practically fighting everyday , he doesnt wanna cooperate with the " loverboy " image that the reality show is trying to give him ..

What sahir said is purely based on the frustration towards the show , and he doesnt mind making himself look bad cause everything is fake anywaz ..

And about shreya thing , from yesterdays scene , its obvious that sahir doesnt want her too close to him ..he was the guy who got irritated when shreya jumped onto him .. Even to make isha jealous , he doesnt wanna do sleeping scene with shreya but if the CVS including isha makes a plot like this in the future , then even he has to do it cause of the show contract ..

and lastly about self respect .. well evn i agree that sahir isnt the ideal man and if isha truely doesnt want him , its completely cool for her to leave him ..but in sahirs side , he is also justified .. Sahir has always told isha about how he dislikes favours ,especially on his career .. In a relation the 1st thing that anyone would expect is the other to respect their views .. Isha knowingly did all this and then lied to him .. I dont think if sahirs situation was happening for a heroine in any show , that would have been appreciated cause there also , doing a favour knowing that the lover wont like it , wont be considered heroism .. And if gia and rav are ready to forgive sahir , then its cause finally they understood sahir is not always wrong ..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: DD_Tannufan

Sorry but somewhere i think u have misunderstood the whole situation ..

When sahir said that he sees girls as fun and " use and throw " .. he is not trying to insult any girl or girls ..but making himself look bad infront of TV deliberately .. Even when he and isha was in talking terms with eachother , he didnt like the idea of fake girlfriend .. and now that , isha and him are practically fighting everyday , he doesnt wanna cooperate with the " loverboy " image that the reality show is trying to give him ..

What sahir said is purely based on the frustration towards the show , and he doesnt mind making himself look bad cause everything is fake anywaz ..

And about shreya thing , from yesterdays scene , its obvious that sahir doesnt want her too close to him ..he was the guy who got irritated when shreya jumped onto him .. Even to make isha jealous , he doesnt wanna do sleeping scene with shreya but if the CVS including isha makes a plot like this in the future , then even he has to do it cause of the show contract ..

and lastly about self respect .. well evn i agree that sahir isnt the ideal man and if isha truely doesnt want him , its completely cool for her to leave him ..but in sahirs side , he is also justified .. Sahir has always told isha about how he dislikes favours ,especially on his career .. In a relation the 1st thing that anyone would expect is the other to respect their views .. Isha knowingly did all this and then lied to him .. I dont think if sahirs situation was happening for a heroine in any show , that would have been appreciated cause there also , doing a favour knowing that the lover wont like it , wont be considered heroism .. And if gia and rav are ready to forgive sahir , then its cause finally they understood sahir is not always wrong ..



I completely agree with uhh...each words of urs are exactly on point...

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