can of worms! - Page 2

Originally posted by: pearl100

hi swati..😊

Dear Hammie as usual very well written 😃...It was lovely to see ashram ladies again after a long time with RL's colored hair 😆 viplav feels at home finally. Dhani continues to have a strange feeling and is highly unsettled.

good you mentioned the ashram ladies... i forget to give them the value

Her fears come true with the avasthi's enterance in AN... they trap gullible shalu and make her act according to their desires ...another suicide attempt by shalu which goes according to raja's plans and he grabs the opportunity to look all good in front of tripathi's. Finally he accepts to get married to her and with DT and kanak's presence they get married.

yes much credence is given to thefact that the families witnessed this wedding

Viplav after getting the news of shalu rushes to AN...and then after seeing raja and shalu he beats the daylights out of raja 😆...kanak DT shalu try to stop viplav now little does he listen to them...he is so disappointed with his family that he tells them not to come to later to seek for forgiveness nor ask him for help...not once did they believe him not once did they trust him...he has had enough of this he would not accept such a marriage.

trouble is raja's reality is in the future which none can see in the present..

Kanak points out when viplav and dhani can get married secretly then why can't shalu follow his brother's footsteps...DT threatens viplav to accept this marriage...dhani tries to calm down viplav but he doesn't ...DT playing another mind game makes dhani welcome the newlywed couple with aarti.

disgusting.. it can be seen raja is weapon to get dhani out of viplav's life eventually

Raja asks shalu to take blessings of bhabhi...the way he touches dhani's feet is disgusting ...now he has the liberty to do whatever he wish to... one he can amass the wealth two he will make his advances towards dhani and with no having a doubt on him...kill birds with one stone...what a way destroy lives of people.

the more he sins the more hot coals from hell he heaps on his head

This snake I felt him always to be dangerous ...hathi ke danth dikhane ke kuchaur chabane ke kuch aur...suits him...another Shyam jha from IPKKND...ek kam nahi tha jo doosra tapak gaya.

he shames the name of such a beautiful long legless carnivore reptile snake raja is dirt!

Waiting for your next post dear...Till then take care.😃
thanks so much for sharing your views.. swati and loved your input of thoughts.. jolly good keep them coming.. much love hammie

Originally posted by: Ravisadha

Nice post...

Can of worms

Hammie your starting para on the Shallu-Raja alliance is superb.. "Viplav and Dhani maintained that Shalu's marriage will be far from a new lease of life for Shalu but more so a scenario of death where maggots fed on dead flesh.. " Very well said.

To start I can sense that you are disenchanted with what has been occurring in the show. My suspicion was confirmed when I read your response in Archu's post as you complain about the negativity and Evil having the upper hand. Characters flip-flop episode per episode and it is hard to tell their true intentions. Shallu apologizing one day and the slashing her wrist the next like a fruit. DT has his own game of snakes and ladder . KT's venom that can poison a village . Avasthi family on their own trip. Its black & Grey all over.

I for one keep an eye on one thing and one thing ONLY and that is the color SAFED. The color that is pure , merges with another color simply and can get dirty with a speck of dust. And that is who are main leads are Viplav & Dhani - Transparent , plain and loving. They have their hearts in the right place and that's all that matters. At least for me it does . Rest is inconsequential .

Shallu . I am sorry to say . is on her own from here on . I have been on a see-saw in my support to her and have given her several chances due to her disposition. She has dug her own grave despite so many warnings and do not know if between her apologizing to her brother to Raja's goodbye visit it was DT who orchestrated her tantrum. In the end she is an adult who has made a decision and will have to live by it. This shows writers have a liking for physical abuse which is so wrong . Slaps and suicide attempts are dime a dozen . An implication that a person can get their way if they slash their wrist or pour kerosene on themselves is very irresponsible . Its upsetting and for I will leave it at that .

The episode to me was a clash of the Titans and their egos. Shallu hell bent on getting married gets her wish . DT and KT fully support it and even disconnect Viplav's phone incase he interferes. Raja to them will be the one to restore their tainted glory . His reputation and dealings with Dhani are of no concern to them . The thought has not crossed their minds at all.

Viplav is shocked to see his family along with the married couple . At first I thought his reaction was Over the Top - Such anger an then it made sense. For him lately it has been that No ones cares about this opinion and feelings . HIs mothers treatment of him and Dhani . Shallu's behavior towards him and her doubting his good intentions. His fear of seeing his sister married to Raja and that too with the blessings of the elders. His ego is hurt and concludes that he is not considered to be part of the family. He had to blow up . Acted very well by Mishal i must say .

For KT it is all about getting rid of Dhani and having her son to herself. Her clash with him is that you went ahead with your decision without considering my opinion . She refuses to see or consider anything else. Its going to be she and her son in combat very soon.

For DT its his supremacy , his heir , his legacy and prestige. Its HIM who has made the decision and when he has accepted Dhani why is Viplav not accepting Raja. Was it me or did he in his own way did not let KAnak do the grehparvesh for Shallu and called upon Dhani . Also he wanted to show that it is his command that Viplav's wife needs to follow Viplav like it or not.

Viplav & Dhani will fight their way out of this one as well. They have different ways of fighting but their fight is the same . A storm builds , rages , causes devastation and also renews. Both will weather this too just hold on.

Take care Hammie and keep writing your beautiful takes. I see the effort that you put in my friend and it is really appreciated. Bless you and have a great week ahead.

Originally posted by: aimf

Namaste dear Hammie
hi aimf😊 hope you are perfect now..
This is a fabulous take indeed. The introduction with the comparison of ShaJa's marriage as dying flowers in slimy stagnant waters is really apt. Also very well done are your descriptions of the wedding, or "wading" (in troubled waters). Lastly your point about the the flippant way in which suicide is being dealt with is also well taken.
yes... wading... like a duck.. poor shalu..
Here are somethings aimf would like to share with you:
great😃
--the events leading up to the marriage has DT's scheming written all over it. What a heartless man indeed! Furthermore he is a slick and wily operator who likes to have his hands clean at all times. Be it conspiring Dhani's murder, or Phool Chand's downfall. DT's remote orchestration of his game ensures that like a mafia Don, he always comes across smelling like roses, innocent, and totally on the side of the very person that he was scheming against. This time, too, is no different. DT knew Shalu's volatile and vulnerable state of mind. To push a recovering addict to relapse does not require either force or mastermind. All that one has to do is to have the alcohol available and the rest will be taken care of by nature herself. Shalu had just barely been weaned from obsessing over Raja, and KT and DT engineer to have the poison in the form of Raja present himself in front of Shalu and allow the addict to crumble into hysterical relapse. A very sad state of affairs, indeed. even if it meant she'll slit her wrists!..they let her for the gain is to get dhani hounded out of the house by the hunting dog raja.. dhani's hunt is on..

--Since the marriage has been solemnized on this desperate note, it gives Raja the upper hand in the marriage and Shalu could be taunted by Raja saying that he married her only because she was desperate, only to save her life.
ohhh clearly.. raja had done his homework well
--Aimf did not get the impression that Raja cut his hand to apply blood in the form of sindoor on Shalu's forehead. On the contrary, he might have used Shalu's own blood dripping from slashing her wrist to do the job. If this is true, symbolically it signifies that the marriage is one-sided, and shows that Shalu's "love" is unrequited.
yes you are correct.. there were commercial breaks and I WAS SO hyped up that I THOUGHT he to went further with his theatrics.. but you are right it was shalu'own blood she shed for him he uses..
--A few days back you had a nice title to your thread called "sibling rivalry" or some such thing. After watching yesterday's episode it dawned on me that DT and KT are horrid parents in yet another way. Instead of being the unifying factor for their offspring, they foment sibling rivalry and mutual disrespect. ohhh true DT already believes in the policy of divide and rule aimf..
Yesterday, DT's skewed reasoning that Vip has to accept his sister's marriage, because they accepted his; and KT's ominous words that Vip's sister would also follow the same road charted by Vip himself --of a clandestine marriage-- struck me as childish. Why would anyone stage these kinds of comparisons between their own children that foments competition and intolerance in the worst way? to breed division.. between siblings ,so she could differentiate between the two,mind you aimf kanak always hated her daughter

--Playing the game of one-upmaniship, DT and KT have overlooked several important considerations, which are potential red-flags:

1. Where are the men in the of the Awasthi family, and what condones their long absence?
2. Why would the newly weds return to AN soon after the wedding rather than go to the Awasthi's rented house to welcome the bride, as is the custom. its so telling by the cvs
3. Keen as they are on proving Dhani wrong, there was no attempt made to recheck the antecedents of the Awasthis after the court case to ascertain whether this is a genuine family worthy of Shalu. aimf both dt and kt want to literaly throw shalu away !
4. And what if there was the slighest chance that Dhani were to be right? What are the implications of this fact? shalu will create a new fuss and say my pati..
5. Why does Raja want to stay at AN? What of his much touted business in Allahabad?
well we know the answer to that.. he's in it for power and glory..
Neglecting these issues is akin to pushing Shalu down a dangerous chute and sealing the opening also. DT's game of snakes and ladders said it all. Right now he thinks he is on a winning streak, encountering ladder after ladder. Blinded by his own hubris and gamesmanship, he forgets that for every ladder, they are two snakes, on either side, waiting to strike. Perhaps the biggest snake is on square number 99, right next to the finish line and it would drag him down all the way to square one, leaving him in penury with just a walking stick and begging bowl. It does not take a lot for fortune to reverse itself.
this is a great thought.. but things happen for a reason . is raja who will bring this lot on their knees?
In all, a disturbing episode with deranged characters of a dysfunctional family headed to a dystopic future of devastation, provided Vip and Dhani do not get their act together and do something soon.
wait and see... viplav hints they'll see raja's true colours
Wishing you a pleasant evening with family and loved ones on this Sunday. Take care and cheers.
thanks aimf all day was busy very busy my cuz his wife toddler fying to Germany tomm for family holiday I am looking after their cat for a week... love hammie

Originally posted by: samanthana

Thank you hammie for the wonderful take ..
hi sammy 😊

Your introduction was very pretty correct for the situation.

• Shallu marraige dress is red in color , however designs surrounded by the red color is white and Yellow glittery (Silver and Gold Glittery ) . Her life and love is surrounded with Glittery world .. and that all that glitters is not gold...
  
• So it is wise to see how she distinguish her love from the glittery .(Worth to watch and days are not so far .
• Yesterday episode clearly showed , how these two lamp of AN (Viplov and Shallu ) was longing for pure love from their mother - So their upgbringing was not under the control of mother . So each one them took their respective pathway to reach their destination ...
• Very beautifully shown the distinguish upbringing of Dhaani and AN.
  

great bullet points

It was disturbring to see the scene of Suicide commitment and it shows she is emotionally very weak and RA (Know found of property ) , however her mother and Grand father (Used this oppurtunity ) to use her .. to go against Dhaani . -

DT is an oppurtunist and RA is an oppurtunist ,So it is wise how this two oppurtunist will go against Dhaani .

This scene was completely disturbed for me, however Kushboo acting was so perfect .👏👏

yes and I was so immersed inthe final scene that i completely failed to notice that shalu received yet another slap from viplav! sammy thanks for reading andgiving a great comment... much love hammie

Originally posted by: premparbat

Can of worms hi premratan.. got here finally to read your comment😃

Hammie your starting para on the Shallu-Raja alliance is superb.. "Viplav and Dhani maintained that Shalu's marriage will be far from a new lease of life for Shalu but more so a scenario of death where maggots fed on dead flesh.. " Very well said.

thanks mate..rare fine thougts..

To start I can sense that you are disenchanted with what has been occurring in the show. My suspicion was confirmed when I read your response in Archu's post as you complain about the negativity and Evil having the upper hand. Characters flip-flop episode per episode and it is hard to tell their true intentions. Shallu apologizing one day and the slashing her wrist the next like a fruit. DT has his own game of snakes and ladder . KT's venom that can poison a village . Avasthi family on their own trip. Its black & Grey all over.

yes.. to magnified evil , I see as acelebration of the negative.. its like bad sells..

I for one keep an eye on one thing and one thing ONLY and that is the color SAFED. The color that is pure , merges with another color simply and can get dirty with a speck of dust. And that is who are main leads are Viplav & Dhani - Transparent , plain and loving. They have their hearts in the right place and that's all that matters. At least for me it does . Rest is inconsequential .

now.. I would rather hold my piece.. yes safed . widow life that 's why I latched on to the show.. I dont know what I want ,but love out and out never interested me.. complex characters did.. now if viplav shows some signs of complexity.. than i'll see how I fare other than that I find myself isolated.. may be its time to move on..

Shallu . I am sorry to say . is on her own from here on . I have been on a see-saw in my support to her and have given her several chances due to her disposition. She has dug her own grave despite so many warnings and do not know if between her apologizing to her brother to Raja's goodbye visit it was DT who orchestrated her tantrum. In the end she is an adult who has made a decision and will have to live by it. This shows writers have a liking for physical abuse which is so wrong . Slaps and suicide attempts are dime a dozen . An implication that a person can get their way if they slash their wrist or pour kerosene on themselves is very irresponsible . Its upsetting and for I will leave it at that .

now this is more like it.. I would like to see shalu 's issues thrashed more..her overweight,her attempts of ending her life.. marriage or presumably a shaky one is not a solution

The episode to me was a clash of the Titans and their egos. Shallu hell bent on getting married gets her wish . DT and KT fully support it and even disconnect Viplav's phone incase he interferes. Raja to them will be the one to restore their tainted glory . His reputation and dealings with Dhani are of no concern to them . The thought has not crossed their minds at all.

sad.. shalu just palmed of..any body will do..

Viplav is shocked to see his family along with the married couple . At first I thought his reaction was Over the Top - Such anger an then it made sense. For him lately it has been that No ones cares about this opinion and feelings . HIs mothers treatment of him and Dhani . Shallu's behavior towards him and her doubting his good intentions. His fear of seeing his sister married to Raja and that too with the blessings of the elders. His ego is hurt and concludes that he is not considered to be part of the family. He had to blow up . Acted very well by Mishal i must say .

apparently the brother slapped her yet another time..

For KT it is all about getting rid of Dhani and having her son to herself. Her clash with him is that you went ahead with your decision without considering my opinion . She refuses to see or consider anything else. Its going to be she and her son in combat very soon.

for kanak dhani is the air she breathes.,. honestly such devotion to dhani dhani dhani!

For DT its his supremacy , his heir , his legacy and prestige. Its HIM who has made the decision and when he has accepted Dhani why is Viplav not accepting Raja. Was it me or did he in his own way did not let KAnak do the grehparvesh for Shallu and called upon Dhani . Also he wanted to show that it is his command that Viplav's wife needs to follow Viplav like it or not.

horrid scene... DT... and raja loving it..

Viplav & Dhani will fight their way out of this one as well. They have different ways of fighting but their fight is the same . A storm builds , rages , causes devastation and also renews. Both will weather this too just hold on.

well i hope their fight exposes the real culprits ..otherwise no point .. evil has to be derooted ..

Take care Hammie and keep writing your beautiful takes. I see the effort that you put in my friend and it is really appreciated. Bless you and have a great week ahead.

thanks so much premratan I appreciate your comments on my written updates.. to me that's what they look like.. now unimpressive and repetitive of what members have said and seen in a telecast already.. but for your my friend you have been by my witten updates.. thank you .. much humbled hammie.