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I have been told I'm beautiful by many. Through my teen years it'd been a source of immense haughty pride but as life went on i realized that what won over and lost the people in my life was not my beauty but my brains and my personality and my response to them. Beauty was something I was gifted via genetics, I didn't choose it and I certainly did nothing to get it. My grandparents have taught me- insan karam se bade hote hain, janam se nahi- I laughed it off as yet another saying by my wisecrack grandparents. But life taught me that lesson at every turn. I assume this is something that most Indian parents, and parents everywhere, teach their kids. It's a 1000 year old saying that's handed down to children in every corner of India, in every culture and religion. Then how is it that as adults we completely forget about it? Now I've been seeing all over Facebook, how Ragini deserves everything and swara is responsible for her own misery because Ragini is more beautiful than swara. These comments aren't just coming from young people but from people who seem to be much older than myself. Like really? Is that what our society has come to? I'm not even going to go into the debate of who is beautiful and who is ugly, that's just pathetic. But let's assume for a second that Ragini is indeed the prettier one, so? Does that mean what she's doing is right? She cries at every turn, does that make her love true? Is her "love" really anything more than a wounded ego? She loves Laksh she says, doesn't understand why he loves swara instead, she wears swara's clothes and imitates her and yet doesn't understand why he still doesn't love her. The Ragini in the beginning was a mute doll but she wasn't this much on the surface was she? I was asked a few days ago why I thought living in India is scary, this is why. Not cos the shows are crap but because these shows reflect real people's mentalities. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Laksh was always shown to be surrounded by modern girls in short dresses, then why is it that he fell for the "modern" girl swara? Because of her clean mind, her truthfulness and her upfront conviction in everything she does. He can see qualities in her that'll take them through thick and thin for a lifetime. Some say their love story is too fast. I agree their marriage is happening too fast, but they know each other very well. Thus the trust. It takes a lifetime to know everything about someone. I've been married for 5 years and I still don't know everything about Shiv. But I married him within less than 6 months of knowing him. Despite our ups and downs Ive always known that we can make a life together. And that's enough. Would I have liked more time with him before marriage, absolutely. That would've definitely changed our situations, but it wouldn't have changed the guy he is and that I would've still been able to see making a life with him. So no matter how beautiful Ragini or ANY other girl is, it doesn't change that to Laksh swara is the girl whose beauty triggers his passion. Cos it's the beauty he can feel reflected inside and out. Physical beauty is a small part of any love equation, you can't love someone at first sight, you can only desire them. Beauty will only take you so far. It's time our society learns to understand that. This is what fair and lovely markets, our insecurities about how we look and how we perceive people's beauty. It's laughable really.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Tej Di _/\_ Bang on post...
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Awed!
This paragraph 👏
Its so true!
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Agree with you completely on this.. but unfortunately the idea of beauty on television and otherwise seems far away from the ancient wisdom..and this is perhaps because the people making them have very little regard for it.

But what I m more worried about from these anonymous facebook and other posts (presumbably from young people) is how attached they become to a character that they cannot take any critic of a charater and further see no difference between real and reel and often feel the need to display their delusion and hate in public forum be it in asking silly childish question like who is "more" pretty than the other or personal remarks on the actors.. i am yet to understand what exactly promotes these kind of irrational behavior on the internet... hopefully not indian tv because i too watch it 🤔
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Wow Tejaswini Di . Lovely post. 👏👏 These are image myths which society has put into people's minds! And another wrong conception comes from the fact that confidence comes from beauty (hence in a Fair and Lovely ad the fairer one get the job). I wonder how blind people get confidence to stand up...
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Originally posted by: rimis

Agree with you completely on this.. but unfortunately the idea of beauty on television and otherwise seems far away from the ancient wisdom..and this is perhaps because the people making them have very little regard for it.


But what I m more worried about from these anonymous facebook and other posts (presumbably from young people) is how attached they become to a character that they cannot take any critic of a charater and further see no difference between real and reel and often feel the need to display their delusion and hate in public forum be it in asking silly childish question like who is "more" pretty than the other or personal remarks on the actors.. i am yet to understand what exactly promotes these kind of irrational behavior on the internet... hopefully not indian tv because i too watch it 🤔


I think media plays a large role in these perceptions. your right, its their disregard for wisdom in content that promotes this vile mentality. and you know the comments on yesterday's episode clearly show the effects of media portrayal on the audience, especially women. ragini's tears to me are as ridiculous as those of my kid when i don't give him sweeties. but the cvs are successful, her tears are working, people feel bad for her cos she's "only doing this to get her first love, it really hurts when you don't get your first love" and "she loves Laksh SOOO much that it makes her negative". i don't understand how love can make you negative, and these comments are then followed by, this is the kicker, real life people they know who behaved like this to get their love. that scares me shitless. i definitely don't want to raise my sons in a place where girls can drug people and do voodoo for their 'love'. where I'm from its quite normal for a guy to not be into you, you just move on to the next guy. not do voodoo on the guy's girlfriend. but i do feel bad for her, but its the sympathy i feel for an insane person, not the sympathy i feel for a dumped girl. i felt that before her accident.
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Insan janam se nahin, karam se bada hota hai. - This is probably the most overused but underrated line in Indian TV.

Ragini had been the sweetest, most beautiful character to me - her way of dressing; simple but elegant, her way of talking; calm and composed and her nervousness at the slightest hint of being the reason for someone's discomfort. That is what made her beautiful - trying her best to fit in, not by changing, but by being the way she is.

Now, Ragini is unrecognisable, because similarly to her, Swara's beauty is also defined by her character rather than how she looks. Ragini has become unbearable because trying to be Swara is not her beauty...why? I don't know, but it just isn't.

One thing I liked about Janki, Ragini's mother, is that she recognised Shekhar and Sharmishta's love. She recognised that it wasn't about how Sharmishta dressed or looked that drew Shekhar in - that's why she was so accommodating about it.
Ragini needs to understand the same Janki did earlier and Sanskaar did recently.

If Lakshya couldn't accept her the way she is then he doesn't deserve her (the old her). If a guy cannot evoke change in you for the better then he's not going to do much in life for you other than just spend it for the sake of it. All Lakshya's "love" did to her is colossal damage.


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Originally posted by: laila.zkhan

Insan janam se nahin, karam se bada hota hai. - This is probably the most overused but underrated line in Indian TV.

Ragini had been the sweetest, most beautiful character to me - her way of dressing; simple but elegant, her way of talking; calm and composed and her nervousness at the slightest hint of being the reason for someone's discomfort. That is what made her beautiful - trying her best to fit in, not by changing, but by being the way she is.

Spot on! Thats what defined ragini's beauty to me. her uncompromising and indiscriminate compassion, be it for a crazy boy with a knife or a woman she thought had killed her mother. but clearly thats not what the trp audience defined Ragini's beauty by. for them it was her milky complexion and "bholi" face.

Now, Ragini is unrecognisable, because similarly to her, Swara's beauty is also defined by her character rather than how she looks. Ragini has become unbearable because trying to be Swara is not her beauty...why? I don't know, but it just isn't.

Its because what she's imitating isn't Swara's beauty but her clothes and her style of speaking and walking and talking. its all style and no substance. its impossible to copy someone else's substance. on top of that ragini has lost her own substance, her usp, so it seems even worse.

One thing I liked about Janki, Ragini's mother, is that she recognised Shekhar and Sharmishta's love. She recognised that it wasn't about how Sharmishta dressed or looked that drew Shekhar in - that's why she was so accommodating about it.
Ragini needs to understand the same Janki did earlier and Sanskaar did recently.

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If Lakshya couldn't accept her the way she is then he doesn't deserve her (the old her). If a guy cannot evoke change in you for the better then he's not going to do much in life for you other than just spend it for the sake of it. All Lakshya's "love" did to her is colossal damage.

I don't know about deservedness, but i do know that Laksh definitely has done nothing awful enough to Ragini to justify whats happening right now and as we're all guessing will happen in the future- being tricked into marrying a cursed crazy person. as far as accepting her the way she was, she was fine the way she was, but not everyone needs to be into that or love her in the romantic sense just cause she was a wonderful person. as laksh had explained to her and to swara- ragini's great, just not what I'm looking for in life. theres nothing wrong with that. if every man was into the same kind of girl then many of us would never find a partner. there was no reason to have not accepted that. but what you've said about evoking change for the better is bang on. and laksh cannot and hasn't provoked change in ragini for the better. them together will mean stagnation, for both characters.


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Di, this such an awesome post!! U have written out your thoughts very well... this particular post of urs has tapped a particular memory from my heart.

I have seen many people who tend to judge girls just because the girl is fair and beautiful and that's the main reason why products like fair and lovely is hit in our country. Unfortunately, parents are the main reason for the mindset of the kids, with which they grow and never ever change it. The society I have seen and was brought had 60% of people who would overlook a mistake if she/he looked good looking. it took a really long time for me to attain the maturity I have today and the self-confidence which I have gained. In process, I had my pride hurt due to various things which I think are totally idiotic now. This had happened in my school too. I was born and brought up in Chennai and I studied in a suburban school. As the people too conservative here, there is a rule in this school, which is boys and girls shouldn't speak with each other. Keeping this aside, boys and girls would speak behind the teacher's back. If at all a guy spoke with a girl she would be beautiful and fair. I was not someone, who was told that you look very beautiful, except my parents. It never affected me as I had many people around me who valued character more than beauty. When I was in my 11th std, I had a crush on a guy who is my classmate. He had it all, he was a topper and according me he was too good looking. due to the conservative environment of the school I studied in, I never really even thought of saying it to him. After we finished school, I gave him a friend request in fb as I wanted to know abt him. It would sound funny, but he declined it. After that I browsed his profile and found girls from my class too. Then It striked me, he didn't even know that I studied with and hence he couldn't recognize my name and photo, even after studying together for 2 years, coz I was not that beautiful for him to remember. It really hurt my pride and ego. I deleted the request by myself afterwards because of my self-respect. It really affected my perspective to an extent that I don't want to see anyone from my school except for my close 4 friends. It was only in college, my total mindset changed about all these things and my maturity level and confidence level increased. But this memory still haunts me in some way. Seriously parents need to teach their kids" to judge a person only by their character and not by eternal beauty which can sometimes be deceptive .everyone are beautiful in their own unique way. Only people who are able to understand it will appreciate it". This is what I would teach my kid. This society seriously needs to change. I didn't think I would share these things in the forum, but di u have made me do so. And I want to thank u for that.⭐️

p.s: I think this is my first long post other than my ff ! It is scary to even me!!😆😆 And I seriously recommend u to start a blog.

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Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham

Its because what she's imitating isn't Swara's beauty but her clothes and her style of speaking and walking and talking. its all style and no substance. its impossible to copy someone else's substance. on top of that ragini has lost her own substance, her usp, so it seems even worse.

I don't know about deservedness, but i do know that Laksh definitely has done nothing awful enough to Ragini to justify whats happening right now and as we're all guessing will happen in the future- being tricked into marrying a cursed crazy person. as far as accepting her the way she was, she was fine the way she was, but not everyone needs to be into that or love her in the romantic sense just cause she was a wonderful person. as laksh had explained to her and to swara- ragini's great, just not what I'm looking for in life. theres nothing wrong with that. if every man was into the same kind of girl then many of us would never find a partner. there was no reason to have not accepted that. but what you've said about evoking change for the better is bang on. and laksh cannot and hasn't provoked change in ragini for the better. them together will mean stagnation, for both characters.


@Bold and most other views here, including ur original post...bang on!! I don't know how ppl find sympathy for a highly crazy obsessed person, seeingher crocodile tears and self - sympathy! It's even not like Laksh cheated on her..in my area, few ppl r feeling tht swara stole away her sis's finacee and love and tht she deserve all this! It's more than who is good looking and who is good with who, it's not always abt pairing. U r ryt, ppl here still needs to change most of their views and calling names on others, which is their fav. part. If we r nt like them, they feel so surprised! Why can't they be free and let others free? Everyone has his/her own opinion...if they don't have same, it doesn't mean tht one is wrong and other is ryt.

Ragini trying to impersonate Swara to get her love shows her craziness, she being involved in plans with sanskaar in drugging Swara and all tht shows her wickedness...how ppl can't see thru all of it? How can they still feel pity just bcoz Laksh's rishta is brought for Ragini? Ragini clearly doesn't know what's love. She's never been into boys before, so the friendly meet with Laksh and his gentle gesture for her made her feel she deserve him and he is the one for her and he'll look after her well.

Okay, we can feel empathy when she came to know the person she feels she loves doesn't feel for her but head over heels in love with her sis or any random girl bcoz it hppns sometime. But it doesn't give her any ryt to mess up with tht person and tht girl. Ppl r really silly in their thoughts. Scientifically and technically we improved alot, but ppl r still silly in their minds.

I have 3 break ups and ppl see me as if iam a girl who deserves no respect in my neighbourhood. Iam fed up of giving explanations to them, self defending myself and saying what are logically & morally right and wrong. I struggled alot to come out of them, each time and to add to it, these ppl's words tht hurt like sharp edged weapons. Most times i cried alot, locked myself in my bedroom. But iam over them all now. Time heals everything. But these ppl, they don't care abt wat u say, they only go with wat they feel is ryt. Instead of consoling us in hard times, they try to increase it with words. Sad tht media supports their views. It is both way.

Being a girl who faced and have been facing much criticism, i can understand ur fear of moving to India. They keep saying iam different and wierd, just bcoz iam odd...and i keep saying to these ppl tht iam special. Iam no longer worrying or feeling sad abt these ppl's words who need to grow up. They have to feel ashamed of it and need to re think their opinions and views. Media can do tht. But sadly, it only targets on cashing money on their weakest thoughts and ideals. Instead of changing them and gaining good support from more sane ppl.

I have been reading most of ur posts and very much agree with them. I think to share my views and post pone it and then i keep forgetting abt it. Some posts went away like tht.

BTW, Iam Teja. Tht's wat ppl call me in short. Isn't it a bit of coincidence tht we share same name & same thoughts?
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