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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Brahmaputra

What could be that one reason? Or are we facing an examination of niyati?
Let us ask Nathan Shah how many childern he has!😆
And do you feel a human has more value than a black buck?
Freedom is the most feared thing even after we got freedom. Truth is that we are told we have freedom but that freedom is the freedom to not show any freedom. BTW, did you see Bahubali?

Maybe the mods are afraid of us 😆
He has 3 kids. One short of the Ramayana example, and 2 short of the Pandava example. Well we know what he'll be trying to do for India - have a few more kids that he can feed properly.
Bahubali!!! Haven't seen it yet! I really want to though - that and Rudramaa Devi. I think I'm just going to wait for Rudramaa Devi to come out and then do a back to back 😆 16 more days 😛


Ok - new extreme topic - Infanticide or Birth Control or Abortion or overpopulation.

Also, what's with all the acid throwing? I can never understand why a person would be stupid enough to handle a bottle of acid and throw it on someone's face.

Edited by shyam09 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Brishti...at some point, we all have crossed limits...hurt each other's sentiments, mocked each other , etc.
But there is one thing I have to point out...

It is true Anu had gone overboard, n called Draupadi 'hero' n 'one who never made mistake' n u opposed to that...n pointed out a 'heinous' mistake of Draupadi n stamped her with 'selfish' tag...Fair enough.
Please note...I am talking about Brishti n not Jamy.
But at the same time...when we are pointing out the mistakes of Arjun like KD...then u are justifyimg how Arjun is 'sinless' bcoz Ved Vyas himself said so!!

I agree about the fangroup thing...that was wrong.
But as far as 'flawlessness' is concerned, please tell me where exactly is the difference between our opinions?
Please understand, I am not bashing n mocking but only trying to clear things out...

Brishti...u cant accept Arjun's mistake n consider 'sinless' but have problem when a Draupadi fan considers her 'flawless'? This is not fair.
Just like u all feel Arjun was the hero, Anu feels the same about Draupadi...wat's wrong with that?

Anu went wrong when she dragged Karna fans...so I understand the outburst of Jamy, Sabhayata n Geetha...

But y did u start mocking Anu's version of Draupadi?

If u cant accept that killing of Nagas, who were innocent as a mistake n try to justify it with balance of nature, then how do mock us when we refuse to accept Draupadi's words as a 'heinous crime' n call her a 'pseudo-feminist'?

I find this really really unfair...u will mock Draupadi by saying 'The woman who never thought about anyone but herself' n'pseudo-feminist' but if we try to point out that Arjun was not sinless, then we will be reminded of how we loved Ardi!! 😭
We used to be friends before...n thats y I believe none of us reported each other's comments...
But dont u feel this is unfair?


I am not fighting or bashing right now...This would have been so much better if we could talk fave to face.
That day I made my comment regarding 'real feelings' seeing your post, not Jamy's.
I know u were mocking Anu's perception of Draupadi but when u said 'The woman who never thought about anyone but herself...lol'...this cannot be about Anu's perception...U were mocking epic Draupadi.

I understand the feelings of Geetha n Jamy...but y did u all pounce in?
It is true Anu had brought up KD n Subhadraharan...but she did not say anything more about Arjun...She was talking more on Karna... 😭

Edited by amritat - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
are we under some special protective zone??????
why are we not getting a warning or a complete close down????
do we have to report our own posts to get the attention??
i hope we have already gained enough attention!!!


and for the 10000000th time MB IS GREY... SO NO POINT IN ARGUING.. PLUS CHAR IN THERE ARE HUMANS AND HUMANS ARE PRONE TO MAKE MISTAKES, DO CRIMES AND BE SINNED.. SO DEAL WITH IT.

i hope you all know the story why Bheeshma was let to live by Ganga. its said the Manushya Janmam (human avatar) is the most disgusting and worse of all other Janamam (births). Be it worms, insects or carnivore animals. Their births are considered superior than a human janamam coz God have given us the gift to think and analyse still we make mistakes and commit sins. so since we belong to this heinous species.. lets accept the facts and move on!!

i have dealt with it and i am only trying to convince all.. lets stop guys... please... this debates have torn apart good relations.. so please for the sake of friendship.. SSSTTTOOOPPP
Edited by Krishnaa_Nair - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
I know wat u mean by that Krishnaa_Nair... 😭
This fandom n fanwars do break friendships with people with whom we had so much funin ATs chatting n talking nonsense about fictitious couples n mysterious babies... 😭
These Mahabharat characters are long gone but they still continue to make us fight Kurukshetra war amongst ourselves... 😭 n we all fall prey to it... 😭
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: amritat

Brishti...at some point, we all have crossed limits...hurt each other's sentiments, mocked each other , etc.
But there is one thing I have to point out...

It is true Anu had gone overboard, n called Draupadi 'hero' n 'one who never made mistake' n u opposed to that...n pointed out a 'heinous' mistake of Draupadi n stamped her with 'selfish' tag...Fair enough.
Please note...I am talking about Brishti n not Jamy.
But at the same time...when we are pointing out the mistakes of Arjun like KD...then u are justifyimg how Arjun is 'sinless' bcoz Ved Vyas himself said so!!

Not justifying. I have not much point to justify Khandava Dahana. Only doubt I have is were they really Nagas or were they animals like the epic states. But that is another debate.. I don't want to begin that here...

I agree about the fangroup thing...that was wrong.
But as far as 'flawlessness' is concerned, please tell me where exactly is the difference between our opinions?
Please understand, I am not bashing n mocking but only trying to clear things out...

Brishti...u cant accept Arjun's mistake n consider 'sinless' but have problem when a Draupadi fan considers her 'flawless'? This is not fair.

But I don't like sinless characters. Arjuna had many flaws. He is the most human character of Mahabharata (IMO) but what I was saying is not claiming. I was saying "Then I can say Arjun was flawless that too it is a written fact in the epic." I was just saying that as a statement of "then I can say..". I was not claiming that.

Just like u all feel Arjun was the hero, Anu feels the same about Draupadi...wat's wrong with that?

Arjuna was ONE OF the heroes. Not HERO.

Anu went wrong when she dragged Karna fans...so I understand the outburst of Jamy, Sabhayata n Geetha...

But y did u start mocking Anu's version of Draupadi?

Because it was in open forum where she was saying. We all have the right to join the debate in Riti's thread she was claiming all that. Then I posted some points. I did not post anything in the CC when she said about Karna fans although I have every right to stop what is wrong and stand up against it (Just like Draupadi). But she replied to me here. (Go back in pages to check Anu had written she is replying us ie Jamy and Me here of what we said in SPK forum). Then I came in to continue. In the process, I also mocked her back for what she did to Karna fans because I am a MAHABHARATA LOVER ALONG WITH PRITHA AND ARJUNA and that makes me stop anything WRONG being said about any character even if it is Dusshashana.

If u cant accept that killing of Nagas, who were innocent as a mistake n try to justify it with balance of nature, then how do mock us when we refuse to accept Draupadi's words as a 'heinous crime' n call her a 'pseudo-feminist'?

Amrita I said that about Draupadi but the first part? I am sorry but Frappie and I are not the same person by the way hope you are aware of that fact. 😆😆

I find this really really unfair...u will mock Draupadi by saying 'The woman who never thought about anyone but herself' n'pseudo-feminist' but if we try to point out that Arjun was not sinless, then we will be reminded of how we loved Ardi!! 😭

WHEN DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ARDI? Please show me the post if I have forgotten what I said.

We used to be friends before...n thats y I believe none of us reported each other's comments...
But dont u feel this is unfair?


I am not fighting or bashing right now...This would have been so much better if we could talk fave to face.
That day I made my comment regarding 'real feelings' seeing your post, not Jamy's.

I know that very well and I don't understand why i cannot praise and mock/criticize different deeds and aspects and character traits of the same character. I can like something about a person where as I can strongly dislike another trait of the same person I dont think that is anything abnormal.

I know u were mocking Anu's perception of Draupadi but when u said 'The woman who never thought about anyone but herself...lol'...this cannot be about Anu's perception...U were mocking epic Draupadi.

I understand the feelings of Geetha n Jamy...but y did u all pounce in?
It is true Anu had brought up KD n Subhadraharan...but she did not say anything more about Arjun...She was talking more on Karna... 😭

I can participate in debates even if it is not on Arjuna.



My response in blue. 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
Yes...I know u and frappie are not the same person...and it was frappie who brought up Ardi...
I clubbed up the comments of the two of u n replied together...didnt feel like typing long long comments to two different people...it's so painful for the fingers... 😭

And I know about Anu's mistakes...but basically it was between Anu n Jamy...while we all have the right to point out n jump into conversations, our involvement makes it worse...And if it is mocking then it does invite a lot of negativity...Well if u admit that Arjun has made mistakes...then that solves the issue... 😊

Ved Vyas has given a lot of adjectives to a lot people...that doesnt mean it has to be taken literally... 😊

And yes...all characters have flaws...even our favourites.
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Edited by amritat - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
I take things literally when it is written in the epic actually. Arjuna made mistakes (I consider Eklavya one a great bad point in his character) also he has flaws.. Made mistakes or not is debatable we need to hold every topic and then talk about it not going into details. But flaws all of them had and bad traits too and Arjuna is not exception. 😊

I take him as Anagha as it is written in the epic. Other day I had a huge fight with frappie because I kept claiming Karna is more handsome than Arjuna and she kept claiming it is a matter of perception which description we think is better and finally she ended up giving up. 🤣 I kept saying because description there in epic shows he was more handsome Bla bla.. Yeah so thats about it... You are welcome to disagree about it. 😊
Edited by CaptainSpark - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Personally I dont consider Eklavya thing completely Arjun's fault...Yes wat he wantedwas wrong but I would blame Drone more...bcoz Arjun was young but Drone was a mature man...

Ofcourse it will be a blot on Arjun...but I consider Drone more responsible...

In fact it is KD which is more heinous...

As for great looks...I agree with frappie...Appearance is a matter of perception.
But it also cannot be denied that some people are supremely good-looking.
Nakul was the most handsome man as per the text...n yes, Karna was very very handsome too...
Of the two, who is more handsome...that depends...

For example...if u notice then all women have been called beautiful in the epic...
Kunti was of 'unrivalled beauty'...Madri was beautiful...Subhadra looked better in a simple dress which indicates how much gorgeous she was...even Rukmini was beautiful...

I wonder did simple women like me didnt take birth then... 😆
Coming back to the point...all these women were beautiful but the fact that so much emphasis has been given on Draupadi's beauty does make her appearance superlative...Does that mean other women were not beautiful? Ofcouse not.
All the women have been described beautifully..but so much has been said about Draupadi's beauty, then it's pretty clear that she was supremely beautiful...

Same is true for Karna n Nakul...As for Arjun, he was surely charming... 😳
But probably not 'the most handsome'...

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