Karna - Suta or Sutaputra

Hello everybody. I have a doubt whether Karna is considered as Suta or only called by Sutaputra.

Hi,

hello...in Mahabharat Karn's Real father Surya dev & mother Kunti but Karn's Foster Father is Sutak == Adhirath & Foster mother Radha

Keep in mind that Sutas were not shudras - they were considered a sub-caste of kshatriyas. Lower, maybe, but kshatriyas nonetheless.

Hindu caste system or Varna pratha was divided into 4 casts
1.brahmin..those ppl who were became prist,teacher,doctor...in some cases Brahmins also became king..they were considered as supreme class...all the rules and regulation were made by them.they were highly equiped with the knowledge of Vedas ,sastras ,scriptures ,politics and economics and warefare...but they were not as good as khshatriya on warfare except few


2.khastriya:-those ppl who were the ruler of the society...they became kings,landlords,worriers etc.they were well equiped with astra vidya...and having lesser knowledge on Vedas,sastras,scripture,politics ,economics etc (except few)

3.baishya (business class):-basically Business men were belongs to this class..economically they were a strong piller of society so brahmin and khastriyas maintained a good rapport with them..but they got the knowledge of business only...few no of baishya knew little bit of warfare also.but it only depends on them.

4.shudra (service class):-rest of the three classes all the ppl were considered as shudra..a farmer,a fisherman,a charioteer ,a hunter,a slave etc etc...they were the largest caste of the society..they had no right to get any knowledge on sastras,Vedas,scriptures,politics ,economics etc...they could get warefare but it was only to support their own job ..very few who belongs to some royal linage can get the education like higher castes ppl...but yes rules sometimes varied from one kingdom to another..it depends on the mentality of the king and his family of that particular kingdom.
Now comes to suta...they originated by the mixture of Brahmin and khasatriya..but they belongs to shudra only...as they went to war with the worriers so they had permission to get knowledge of warfare...but not as much as the khsatriya..they had no permission to become a worrier..


Now come to the biggest q why many of the kings and khastriyas were so much angry on karna...and always tried to redicule him or insult him...he went to lord parasuram who only taught Brahmins..so he had knowledge of everything..vedas,sastras,scriptures,politics,economics,astrology etc etc along with warefare...karna was an man who had immance thrust of knowledge..and as a student he was verystudious .hardworking and brilliant..so he not only acquired the knowledge of warfare but also on Vedas,scriptures,sastras,economics,politics etc .plus he was a khastriya by birth so he had immance physical strength also..so combination of that two made him an excellent educated person
...even in dawpar yug there were very few men who were so much educated in whole aryavat except lord Krishna and few of others...lord Krishna mentioned him as an extremely knowlagable person in udyog parv..and his knowledge was irked by the khastriya...as a king he always maintain good rapport with Brahmins ..but never care for khastriyas except those who were his friends...he was extremely liberal towards other two classes ppl also...so a person who belongs a lower class having too much knowledge and so strong worrier with his do not care attitude towards khastriyas made him not so popular among khastriyas...but still as he was loved by other three class ppl and be friend with many khastriyas so he was considered as one of the most generous and noble king of aryavat..

A suta is a problem case because as per the rules prevalent then suta children are those who are born to Kshatriya father and Brahman mother. Karna's foster father Adirath was a suta (adirath's father was a Kshatriya and mother a Brahman). The problem was because Kshatriyas were considered a lower category than Brahman, it was considered bad then to marry outside caste, and it was worse if the girl belonged to an upper caste than boy.

"Seeing him, Karna left his bow and impelled by filial regard bowed down his head still wet with the water of inauguration. And them the charioteer, hurriedly covering his feet with the end of his sheet, addressed Karna crowned with success as his son. And the charioteer embraced Karna and from excess of affection bedewed his head with tears, that head still wet with the water sprinkled over it on account of the coronation as king of Anga. Seeing the charioteer, the Pandava Bhimasena took Karna for a charioteer's son, and said by way of ridicule, 'O son of a charioteer, thou dost not deserve death in fight at the hands of Partha. As befits thy race take thou anon the whip. And, O worst of mortals, surely thou art not worthy to sway the kingdom of Anga, even as a dog doth not deserve the butter placed before the sacrificial fire.' Karna, thus addressed, with slightly quivering lips fetched a deep sigh, looked at the God of the day in the skies. And even as a mad elephant riseth from an assemblage of lotuses, the mighty Duryodhana rose in wrath from among his brothers, and addressed that performer of dreadful deeds, Bhimasena, present there, 'O Vrikodara, it behoveth thee not to speak such words. Might is the cardinal virtue of a Kshatriya, and even a Kshatriya of inferior birth deserveth to be fought with. The lineage of heroes, like the sources of a lordly river, is ever unknown. The fire that covereth the whole world riseth from the waters. The thunder that slayeth the Danavas was made of a bone of (a mortal named) Dadhichi. The illustrious deity Guha, who combines in his composition the portions of all the other deities is of a lineage unknown. Some call him the offspring of Agni; some, of Krittika, some, of Rudra, and some of Ganga. It hath been heard by us that persons born in the Kashatriya order have become Brahmanas. Viswamitra and others (born Kshatriyas) have obtained the eternal Brahma. The foremost of all wielders of weapons, the preceptor Drona hath been born in a waterpot and Kripa of the race of Gotama hath sprung from a clump of heath. Your own births, ye Pandava princes, are known to me. Can a she-deer bring forth a tiger (like Karna), of the splendour of the Sun, and endued with every auspicious mark, and born also with a natural mail and ear-rings? This prince among men deserveth the sovereignty of the world, not of Anga only, in consequence of the might of his arm and my swearing to obey him in everything. If there be anybody here to whom all that I have done unto Karna hath become intolerable, let him ascend his chariot and bend his bow with the help of his feet.'