Mahakumbh 49-52: The gathering of the white clans - Page 5

What, my dearest girl, would I do without you to pep me up? This set of cracks is delightful, and there is no one like you for spotting mine, like the one about Mogambo, and relishing them.Thanks a million.

But I was impressed by Balivesh's quick-wittedness in coolly asking for the Saraswati Kund. A For what? The pleasure their company at the wedding in the Brahma Nisht Panth haystack??

Now that was a shocker., I had been making cracks about wanting to see her go to the 'Veshes and say Rudra aur Maya ek hone ja rahe hain, aur aapke aashirwaad ki apeksha karte hain, but this one pulled the rug out from under my feet. I thought dowry was given in such traditional families, by the girl's side, but here it is an African style bride price!!😉

And it is interesting that Daadi does not seem to think that handing the Saraswati Kund to the very persons who destroyed the Brahma Nisht Panth 24 years ago would not amount to defiling the Kund, but Rao and Shivanand running that gizmo there for a little while would render that pavitra sthal apavitra. That is really the RUDDY LIMIT!!😡😡

As for Dr. Rao and Shiva, the 64 thousand dollar question now is what are they going to do, especially if Daadi actually hands the Saraswati Kund over to the 'Veshes?

No, it was not the JA episodes that set off my migraine, for by now I can take just about anything there, but they might just have made the Tatasky pack up in disgust!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

the cost of this way of the ostrich is very high for the good guys.

See I had always felt the 7th Garud had something to do with the heart and the protection of Sarvashresth Garud. In other words protection of Rudra. Heart is not seen in a human and yet without it we cannot live one sec. It is that small thing that beats inside us that keeps alive, that brings blood to all other body parts. It is the seat of our values, emotions and conscience. It is connected with relations.

Very, very interesting, Shruthi. And plausible too, for Ganga is a dead loss, and that leaves only Maimuyi, whom I prefer, or a resurrected Maya.

But as to the reason you have given for why Shivanand is unable to see the 7th garuda, that seems less clear to me, for it is the software that is locating the garudas, not Shiva, and software is impersonal.

Of course, if the 7th garuda is Maimuyi, as an astral presence, she would not be detectable.

I need to think this thru a bit more, and will revert very soon.Meanwhile, do take a look at Shubha's Neelkant thread.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Shymaladi after seeing the spoiler of Maimui I couldn't keep my analysis of 7th Garud any longer with me. Hence putting it here. Hope you will like the logic.

See I had always felt the 7th Garud had something to do with the heart and the protection of Sarvashresth Garud. In other words protection of Rudra. Heart is not seen in a human and yet without it we cannot live one sec. It is that small thing that beats inside us that keeps alive, that brings blood to all other body parts. It is the seat of our values, emotions and conscience. It is connected with relations.

And the boon naga has his Garuda's can be defeated when they are emotionally weak. So in other words whoever is 7th Garud has to take care of the emotional aspect or matters of the heart for Rudra. So that he is protected from Nagas.

And according to Harry Potter, Harry's protection till he attained adulthood was given by Lily his mother's spell. In other words his mother was his protection. In addition to that it tells out of 7 Horcruxes one is part of Harry. So the 7th Garud missing I had felt to be Rudra's mother or wife or a combination of both.

Wife because as per Indian mythology wife is called Ardhagnini. So expected the 7th Garud to be seen only post wedding. Because only when the girl becomes Rudra's wife she will get the identity of Garud. And Maya should become Durga. Durg in Hindi means Fort. And she will be the one who will protect his relations while he protect Amrit. In other words as long as his relations are safe he will not be emotionally weak. As we know till the fort is breached the battle can be won.

Now if it is Maimui the second possibility comes to picture. That she is gonna be Rudra's guiding force or Maya's guiding force. She cannot be seen, but can be felt by either of them. She is the one who is going give him guidance on how to handle the battle of head and heart. Again she is gonna give him that protection from her sane advice on how to cut the middle path between his duty and his love.

That's why I said earlier also if Dadi becomes 7th Garud then my whole analysis goes for a toss. Else I was fine with Maimui, Ganga or Maya. And exactly the same reason I felt Shiva is unable to see 7th Garud as it is connected with heart, connected with emotions and has to be felt coming closer. Cannot be seen from a distance or through logic as Shiva does.

My dear Shreya,

Thank you so much for liking this one, as also for your concern about my poor head. Happily, the migraine does not last more than 2 days! But it leaves one drained out.

Your comments are, as always, pertinent and. at one point, extremely funny! My supplementary comments are in blue.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sp108

Lovely post Aunty! Take care and hope your migraine is better.

Shymaladi my point is a trail of thought is not going into Shiva's head why the 7th Garud is missing. Why the software cannot sense its presence. Do something has to happen for 7th Garud to come to picture or can 7th Garud be part of another Garud some questions like that. I didn't see Shiva pondering over the absence of 7th Garud though he knows it exists.

Daadiii...😡

Mahakumbh 56: Of Rudra the saviour and other things

Folks,

While my weekly post will be on Sunday, there are some very interesting points that have come up, mostly on Shubha (happychappy)'s Neelkanth? thread.

Her main idea, based on the blue colour of the naga vish, was the this blue poison would somehow end up inside Rudra, where it would do no harm, and he would be the Neelkanth, the saviour of Maya!was

I felt that while the details had to be worked out, this was very plausible. I too believe that Rudra will save Maya's life after their marriage, by somehow sucking the poison out of her system and absorbing it himself, like Mahadev did during the samudramanthan. Shivanand hints at this when he tells Rao that he, Rao, does not know about Rudra's powers.

Shruthi then dug up (the astral) Maimuyi's offhand objection, when Rudra wants to go away with her, that Rudra has to deal with the poison threatening the world by becoming Neelkanth, which is a clincher.

As supplementary evidence, so to speak, I would offer the point that to fit in with the leit motif of our tale, the parallel with the samudramanthan, that before the amrit emerges, there has to be the deadly vish, and it is Rudra Shiva who has to deal with it.

Shruthi's garudastra vs nagastra angle fits in perfectly here, since Rudra is also Garuda No.1. Talk of multitasking! The Tridev would be really impressed!!😉

So Rudra does not seem to have the least doubt that he will be defeat Mrityu and save Maya, and his calm confidence was wonderful to behold.

On a different tack, I was struck by Balivesh's escalating folly in losing Daadi's unbelievable offer to hand over the Saraswati Kund to the Sri Santh Panth. 😉

I was ready to burst a bloodvessel over that😡, seeing all the hungama she had been making earlier over the Rao-Shiva anusandhan in the Saraswati Kund making that pavitra sthal apavitra. Presumably she thought Balivesh & Co, would have tins of Rin or New Improved Wheel to cleanse themselves of their accumulated sins first!😉

Be that as it may, Niyati saved Daadi from the consequences of her own folly, with Balivesh's endemic foot in the mouth disease, in Naanu's absence, giving Shivanand the perfect opening to scotch the disastrous proposal. Wonder of wonders, Daadi did not shush him and make a repeat offer, but allowed herself to be gently led away. I was in a state of shock for a full five minutes after seeing that!!😉

I could not quite catch what exotic syndrome they had discovered about the effects of the poison, and what kind of records Rao was hoping to unearth about the 1869 poisoning of an identical kind, but as Sandhya was joking above here, it is clearly one that permits the victim, Maya, to do a lot of lajaana sharmaana, nayan ladaana, joking and laughing, and even going on a boatride before collapsing gracefully in her love's arms.

It might have been slow - timed to perfection to hit when the saat phere are on - but if it was also dardnaak, that did not show.

I have never relishes the Rudra-Maya romance, but this last episode was, finally, not just tolerable but appealing, thanks to Rudra's melting smile that lights up his eyes ever so gently.

Otherwise, it was straight out of Dickens, like the death of the young heroine, Nell, in The Old Curiosity Shop. In those days, the magazines from England with the latest chapters of this novel used to be received by anxious crowds at the American ports, and when his "dear, gentle sweet Nell" died, it was said that all of America wept.

It is going to be something like that with the Mahakumbh viewers come Monday. I do not cry, but I shall preserve a respectful silence and await her resurrection!

There is a puzzle that now confronts me, triggered, as is often the case, by a comment from Arshi. To wit that this might be the story writer's way of making Rudra a hero, guided by the force of love and not catapulted into it by hatred and anger.

The interesting thing here is that despite all that had happened to him, there was never any hatred or anger from Shivanand's side, only the desperate need to protect the world by protecting amrit. It was Rudra who was swearing vengeance on the 'Veshes for the killings of Udiya Baba (which does not stand up at all, for they had nothing to do with his dying or even with Pandey's attempt on Rudra's life) and Maimuyi.

Now is he going to forget all that, just as his Daadi is prepared to forget the destruction of the Brahma Nisht Panth by the'Veshes just because of her obsession with uniting the two Panths? It seems very odd and inconsistent to me.

And in the end, he is going to fight the nagas and the rest of the dark forces to save the world. Would he be doing it for love? If so, it would have to be love of humanity, not a personalised love fo for Maya.

This apart. I have never been comfortable with the idea of turning the other cheek and repeatedly forgiving evil in the hope of reforming it. Evil has to be destroyed. I thus prefer our pauranic concept of samhara.

By the way, I wonder if Rudra has any idea of who actually poisoned Maya, and whether he thinks that the 'Veshes were guilty of that too. The last precap is very confusing on this point, with Balivesh's ambiguous response to Katharine's anguished protest about Maya's death not having been part of "the plan".

Of course, it might have been a bit of phenkna by Balivesh, like Naanu claiming the 'credit' for Udiya Baba's death in his retort to Maya's threat to expose them all to Rudra. But if not, it would mean that he was already in touch with the nagas and had got Maya poisoned. After all, the naga connection came thru Guru Maharaj, and it might have moved further by now. Where, I wonder, is Guru Maharaj?

There is also the intriguing new facet to Naanu's character that I had mentioned at the end of my last post. He is genuinely grieved by what has happened to Maya, unlike the totally callous and uncaring Balivesh.

Shyamala/Aunty/Di

Shymaladi I don't understand why people has to keep on forgiving when nature itself does not do so. It is said that when Dharti Mata is fed up earthquake happens which creates mass destruction. Similarly all natural calamities like cyclones, floods, tsunamis are told to be the way of nature doing samhara to balance things out.