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"Shooting star?! It's a stupid meteor.
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Tumein pata hai isska temperature kitna hota hai? It's 6000 kelvin. If it hits our earth, we all are dead. Do you know that, it can destroy the whole world. Sab khatam ho sakta hai, sab."

"Wo USA mein jo accident hua tha, wo uss raat ki baat hai. Wo raat Rishabh ko bohat haunt karti hai.

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Rishabh aur main, we were stuck in the rubble. Aur humein bachane wale bhi koi nahin tha. And koi bacha hi nahin tha. Na Mom, na Dad. Aur main? I couldn't even move. Buss...Rishabh sirf chilla raha tha."

Nandini; Episode, 1.

"The sky, it's so close to us! Like, I feel like I can touch all the stars. All of them. But you know what? I, I don't want to touch them. I want to crush them and throw them away. I hate you stars, are you listening?! I hate you all!"

Nandini; Episode, 58.

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Nandini's hatred for stars has been one of the driving forces of MaNan. Even in the first episode, we got a scene where the couple was introduced through their reactions to the same "shooting star". While we saw Nandini show utter disgust at the flying ball of gas, we had Manik thank it for giving him his Buddy. I didn't watch the entire series for this meta, looking for references to quote and only quoted from the two episodes where the star connection was really shown between the two.

Somehow I could never really buy Nandini's hatred for stars too much. How is it intense hate if one night with Manik, one confession from his side that he likes the stars for the light they give, and we saw Nandini happily gifting him the stars. While the whole moment was beautiful, Nandini giving Manik the light he so craves but never embraces, it kind of undermined Nandini's hatred for the stars. It was too quick to be resolved. Then my brain started thinking in a different direction.

Nandini's intense hatred is more for the meteors than stars themselves. She had a legit scientific reason to hate the meteors, being a Science girl and all. While it hasn't been explained fully but it has been hinted strongly that a meteor had a huuugeee part to play in the incident which happened 10 years ago which took Nandini's parents from her, gave Manik his Buddy, took away from Rishabh's voice, and gave Dhruv the aggressive attacks.

So, where do the stars come in play?

Imagine.

A seven year old Nandini, stuck in a rubble, unable to move. Night sky above, strange land around. She sees in some distance the silent, unmoving figures of the two persons who were the reason she was brought in the world. Even in the dark she can see the way they are covered in blood. She sees the car in which they were happily traveling just a few moments ago, she sees it upside down and crushed beyond repair. And she hears the voice of her younger brother, crying and crying and crying. She wants to move, she wants to scream, she wants to cry. She feels her limbs go numb, she feels the cold of the night sweeping in. All around her, all she hears are the cries of her brother. She wants him to shut up, she wants to cry along. She wants to do something, anything to get away from this feeling of helplessness. Human nature kicks in at the tender age of seven, the need to survive is strong. But she can't do anything. Then she looks above. And she sees the bright lights twinkling in the night sky.

And she hates them.

In my head Nandini's hate for the stars isn't because she associates them as being the reason for the accident. But it's more like she associates them as being the sole witnesses of it. She sees them twinkling like little gems and she is reminded of how utterly helpless she was in that night. She sees them and she says to herself that they were there and they stood there like silent bystanders and did nothing for her. At the age of 7, anything is possible. If stars can feel like magic to some, they can be the target for hatred as well.

Nandini's past is literally just waiting to be explored. Her backstory is amazing, we think about the tragic incident and we see this Nandini who is strong and unshakable and we admire her. For all that she went through and still going strong. But I can't fathom how all that light is possible without its own shadow? To quote Kingdom Hearts, "the closer you get to the light, the bigger you're shadow will be." Everyone in the show has their own set of demons, why not Nandini? While I get that Nandini has to be the sole voice of reason, logic, understanding, maturity among a whole ensemble of troubled teens; but that doesn't mean that she shouldn't be given her own troubles to deal with. We know that in the ten years since the accident, Nandini pulled herself so firmly that it's hard to break her. The girl always finds it within herself to smile, for others.

But what of the immediate hours after the accident?

What did she go through as she lay in the hospital bed with no tender hand to hold? To find herself an orphan out of nowhere. What were her feelings during the time she went from USA to India? How timid were her steps when she entered the unfamiliar house where her father grew up? How did she take the news that she now has to live in Mangalore and build her life a new? How did she deal with the fact that her life in USA was now an event of the past which can no longer be visited?

It's a blessing that she had a family who didn't let her fall apart. But even so, opening up to and accepting any drastic change always takes time. I want to know about the child Nandini. About how she found the strength in her to notice the light of the fireflies and fall in love with them. How she desperately wished to collect the remaining pieces of her old life before giving up and accepting that she can't get those things back. Nandini going to her Amms and wanting to just see her Appa's pen and hold it for some while. Nandini seeing the mute state of her brother and remembering all their silly fights where they used to run around the house, shouting and bickering; remembering all that and coming to terms with the reality. How she began to tend to her brother like a mother. How the two siblings clung to each other and bonded so strongly.

Nandini as a character offers so much, so much more than her connect with all the other characters. We have seen her be there for others, who was there for her when she needed them? Oh, this girl won't break. She has this inspiring quality of always getting up with or without any help. I don't want to see her break, but I want her to talk about all the times she wanted to break. Her secrets belong only to her, and it's all well and good. Her fireflies, her Aiyappa, they know them all. But they can't answer her back. She doesn't need anyone to listen to her story and give her sympathetic glances. And I wouldn't want that to happen. But this girl so needs someone who'd listen to it all and say, "I'm so proud of you."

The more I drive deeper in her character, the more I fall in love with her. She's so well written in all her angles. Though she isn't talked about much, there's so much in her that's worth talking about. And I really wish that the CVs do that. She's much more than a girl who's always gonna be there to fix others or be someone's romantic interest or someone's best friend. She's a girl of her own. With a past so disconnected to everyone else. And it's all worth talking about.

Talk about it CVs, just once. Talk about it. Don't let this girl's potential waste away.
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I literally jumped all the way for this. Hate Bushra -.- Unres karungi, PROMISE!
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I am awful and really really greedy but sometimes only your words can calm the restless chaotic need for this bloody show. it's like you make it all the more addictive yet so soothing? You add sense to the sensibilities of this show. Yeah thats about it.👏👏

You know it got me thinking , both Nandini and Manik love things which shine through darkness -stars and fireflies. So why does Nandu hate the stars?

I will confess ,I related it mostly to the meteor which caused the accident .But you the genius you got me thinking, she really set aside her hatred and gifted them to Manik easily. She doesn't even flinch when he equates her to stars. At that moment , I thought she is good at closing off her emotions,so perhaps , she just had a better handle on her hate. But then it continued buzzing my head till you sorted it like this.

This makes sense right? They shining away, far along ..witnessing the misery of a 7 year old child, under all the dust and rubble , fighting away her tears, grief , she must have looked at them -hoped for help, but their silence would have angered her. in my head I also think, they might represent something her father talked about or the whole drive was about star gazing.

Interestingly it might also be the reason she never gives up on people, as stars-who she might have cherished before the tragedy let her down and she doesn't want anyone else to feel the same pain.

A part of me also thinks that perhaps it's because of how Rishab might react to stars- he seems to draw them all the time, the symbol on his wall. He must have spent days, months and years cussing them. So she could have attributed his condition to them.

The stars need to be dealt with and Nandini needs to explain her hate for them. To him and to us. Also to get it out of her system.

Nandini has suffered so many wounds , she had to grow up quickly and learn to be proper with her emotions so that she can be the model sibling to Rishab, not burden on her relatives and just move on . 7 year old child processing it all , speaks a lot about her spirit and strength. I get her silence , because sometimes grieving it openly would have made her feel weak or she just didn't want to worry everyone with her tears. The maturity of it is mind-numbing. Even after a awful night , emotionally shattered Nandu smiled, shined for her chacha-chachi , and only in the confines of her room did she air her anger , her tears. That just shows how many times she would have crawled in corners , hid in places and sobbed for her parents.

I want to know that Nandini. I really do. I really hope someone should just sit down and let her speak, cry and shove her past, her grief and her story. Because she inspires not just how she deals with situations and people but how she has risen through all that fate has thrown at her . Remarkably going through all that at a young age, her faith in fate and God is intact- I want to know how? What and Who kept her going? Where does she derive this humongous power of resilience . And then I want someone to appreciate it all and tell her that she did fine, she is making her parents proud.

I concur Mais, in hoping that cvs take this up and just for once unfurl her story. Because she is "The Story".


I will leave with a quote from Stardust, "Are we human because we gaze at the stars, or do we gaze at them because we are human?" Pointless, really..."Do the stars gaze back?" Now, that's a question."



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie

I am awful and really really greedy but sometimes only your words can calm the restless chaotic need for this bloody show. it's like you make it all the more addictive yet so soothing? You add sense to the sensibilities of this show. Yeah thats about it.👏👏 You flatter me..so so so much. Like, at this point i don't even know how to begin stringing words to form a reply to this..so imma just let it stay here and try calm my racing heart.

You know it got me thinking , both Nandini and Manik love things which shine through darkness -stars and fireflies. So why does Nandu hate the stars?

I will confess ,I related it mostly to the meteor which caused the accident .But you the genius you got me thinking, she really set aside her hatred and gifted them to Manik easily. She doesn't even flinch when he equates her to stars. At that moment , I thought she is good at closing off her emotions,so perhaps , she just had a better handle on her hate. But then it continued buzzing my head till you sorted it like this.

This makes sense right? They shining away, far along ..witnessing the misery of a 7 year old child, under all the dust and rubble , fighting away her tears, grief , she must have looked at them -hoped for help, but their silence would have angered her. in my head I also think, they might represent something her father talked about or the whole drive was about star gazing.

Interestingly it might also be the reason she never gives up on people, as stars-who she might have cherished before the tragedy let her down and she doesn't want anyone else to feel the same pain.

The way Manik and Nandini's love for light is constructed, it tells a lot about them as individuals. We have Manik who puts his love in the stars, the eternally separated stars. He sees them, he loves their light, but he can never even hope to catch them. That's the way his own light is. It's there to be seen but it's so untouchable by others. Like millions of barriers are separating him from his own light. He hates the darkness but doesn't hesitate from embracing it if it means that his loved ones will have moments of light for themselves. Whereas Nandini, she believes in the light you can touch. Which isn't just there for the heck of it. Science girl, she needs tangible proof. So she captures her light, not for some malicious reasons. But as an assurance that light in the darkest corners is not a myth. Hope is always there, hope to have a better tomorrow, a happy tomorrow.

This is the point that I missed adding in the post, of how Nandini forgave the stars so easily. In her head, the stars are silent bystanders who don't help. I mean, which little girl doesn't like the pretty things in life? If she remembers her mother's words about the fireflies, it's obvious that her mother talked about it more than once. She surrounded Nandini with magic and myths and belief. How is it possible for Nandini to not extend that belief in the stars which out every night? Till that point, she didn't witness fireflies. She only saw the stars. But when she needed them the most, they betrayed her by not helping her.

Then she met Manik and she heard his side of the story. The stars didn't come down to help him, but they stayed there up in the sky. And that feat alone was enough for Manik to carry on. He saw the stars, he found solace in them. And Nandini witnessed it. Witnessed his gratitude for the stars. I believe that in that moment, she forgave them. "Aaah..they aren't that bad. If they did wrong to me, they did right to him. I had my fireflies, they were enough for me. He has his stars, why to take them away from him?" Her hatred for the stars was gone the moment she saw his love for them. It's like we all say, Nandini will love the things Manik loves because they are his things. Her gifting Manik the stars was a sort of proof of that..

Nandini was left alone by the stars when she needed them. So she learned from them. Never to leave anyone in trouble alone. She didn't just shape her life around the philosophy of the fireflies, she took bits from her hate of fireflies as well.

A part of me also thinks that perhaps it's because of how Rishab might react to stars- he seems to draw them all the time, the symbol on his wall. He must have spent days, months and years cussing them. So she could have attributed his condition to them.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Rishabh make that star when they came to Mumbai? And she saw it there for the first time?

The stars need to be dealt with and Nandini needs to explain her hate for them. To him and to us. Also to get it out of her system.

Nandini has suffered so many wounds , she had to grow up quickly and learn to be proper with her emotions so that she can be the model sibling to Rishab, not burden on her relatives and just move on . 7 year old child processing it all , speaks a lot about her spirit and strength. I get her silence , because sometimes grieving it openly would have made her feel weak or she just didn't want to worry everyone with her tears. The maturity of it is mind-numbing. Even after a awful night , emotionally shattered Nandu smiled, shined for her chacha-chachi , and only in the confines of her room did she air her anger , her tears. That just shows how many times she would have crawled in corners , hid in places and sobbed for her parents.

I want to know that Nandini. I really do. I really hope someone should just sit down and let her speak, cry and shove her past, her grief and her story. Because she inspires not just how she deals with situations and people but how she has risen through all that fate has thrown at her . Remarkably going through all that at a young age, her faith in fate and God is intact- I want to know how? What and Who kept her going? Where does she derive this humongous power of resilience . And then I want someone to appreciate it all and tell her that she did fine, she is making her parents proud.

Word to this. This is why I hate it when she isn't being considered by any other character? She's so pushed around and not paid attention to, her emotions are taken for granted. And it's a tragedy that she's not so offended by it on a big level. All her life she filtered her thoughts, chose to keep the biggest things to herself ke ab she seems alright with it. In her efforts to not burden anyone else by her presence and thoughts, she has a whole mountain full of them on her chest. And she's so used to it all..I wanna see how she'll react when she'll be asked to say it out loud, if she's asked to say it all. She'll try avoiding, change the subject but when she'll start speaking..she'll the things she didn't even know she had it all hidden. 10 years worth of it. Why isn't this happening, really? What possible reasons do the writers have for not exploring this girl?

I concur Mais, in hoping that cvs take this up and just for once unfurl her story. Because she is "The Story".

"She is 'The Story'." You basically summarized everything I wanted to say in one line.

I will leave with a quote from Stardust, "Are we human because we gaze at the stars, or do we gaze at them because we are human?" Pointless, really..."Do the stars gaze back?" Now, that's a question."

In my head, for her, the stars did gaze back. It was just an unkind gaze.

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Originally posted by: lostmymusic.


The way Manik and Nandini's love for light is constructed, it tells a lot about them as individuals. We have Manik who puts his love in the stars, the eternally separated stars. He sees them, he loves their light, but he can never even hope to catch them. That's the way his own light is. It's there to be seen but it's so untouchable by others. Like millions of barriers are separating him from his own light. He hates the darkness but doesn't hesitate from embracing it if it means that his loved ones will have moments of light for themselves. Whereas Nandini, she believes in the light you can touch. Which isn't just there for the heck of it. Science girl, she needs tangible proof. So she captures her light, not for some malicious reasons. But as an assurance that light in the darkest corners is not a myth. Hope is always there, hope to have a better tomorrow, a happy tomorrow.

This is the point that I missed adding in the post, of how Nandini forgave the stars so easily. In her head, the stars are silent bystanders who don't help. I mean, which little girl doesn't like the pretty things in life? If she remembers her mother's words about the fireflies, it's obvious that her mother talked about it more than once. She surrounded Nandini with magic and myths and belief. How is it possible for Nandini to not extend that belief in the stars which out every night? Till that point, she didn't witness fireflies. She only saw the stars. But when she needed them the most, they betrayed her by not helping her.

Then she met Manik and she heard his side of the story. The stars didn't come down to help him, but they stayed there up in the sky. And that feat alone was enough for Manik to carry on. He saw the stars, he found solace in them. And Nandini witnessed it. Witnessed his gratitude for the stars. I believe that in that moment, she forgave them. "Aaah..they aren't that bad. If they did wrong to me, they did right to him. I had my fireflies, they were enough for me. He has his stars, why to take them away from him?" Her hatred for the stars was gone the moment she saw his love for them. It's like we all say, Nandini will love the things Manik loves because they are his things. Her gifting Manik the stars was a sort of proof of that..

Nandini was left alone by the stars when she needed them. So she learned from them. Never to leave anyone in trouble alone. She didn't just shape her life around the philosophy of the fireflies, she took bits from her hate of fireflies as well.



Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Rishabh make that star when they came to Mumbai? And she saw it there for the first time?



Word to this. This is why I hate it when she isn't being considered by any other character? She's so pushed around and not paid attention to, her emotions are taken for granted. And it's a tragedy that she's not so offended by it on a big level. All her life she filtered her thoughts, chose to keep the biggest things to herself ke ab she seems alright with it. In her efforts to not burden anyone else by her presence and thoughts, she has a whole mountain full of them on her chest. And she's so used to it all..I wanna see how she'll react when she'll be asked to say it out loud, if she's asked to say it all. She'll try avoiding, change the subject but when she'll start speaking..she'll the things she didn't even know she had it all hidden. 10 years worth of it. Why isn't this happening, really? What possible reasons do the writers have for not exploring this girl?

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"She is 'The Story'." You basically summarized everything I wanted to say in one line.

I will leave with a quote from Stardust, "Are we human because we gaze at the stars, or do we gaze at them because we are human?" Pointless, really..."Do the stars gaze back?" Now, that's a question."

In my head, for her, the stars did gaze back. It was just an unkind gaze.


I love , love how you just wrote the beautiful parallel for Manik_Nandu.
I like how you mentioned, she probably thought that they might have been harsh on her but they brighten up his world - gosh, selfless right there. This is perhaps why she liked being his star because of his love for them.

All the love , myths and stories about Star failed the 7 year old who gazed upon them with hopeful eyes for help. That is powerful. I like though she never gave up on fireflies , till now.


I think this is not the right time to explore her , when she is needed to repair all these people, it should weigh her down more to break her. The heart-break hasn't pushed her to that point yet, I feel , either it will come out slowly or my best bet during the Rishab track, thats when Manik will go hang on what happened back then? I remember how he first went to her place to be the partners for Dhruv-Rishab thing, she wanted to cry it out, she was fumbling with it but it wasn't stretched , hopefully, it will come out when Rishab thing is out in open.

I feel the stars gazed back at her , burning with the helplessness of the situation. they rather gave her the gift to be the star for somebody else. Question is , will she has to burn always to keep the light on ?




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Posted: 10 years ago
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agreed..now is not the time for a in depth focus on her individuality. I am just saying that this girl has a lot to.offer, enough for her to get some footage where she is the one who is on the center stage, where she is not connected to anyone else. Yeah, writers had the backstory of Harshad, Mukti, Manik, all planned and they will get to to them when the time is right. But Nandini? I have a feeling ke unknowingly this girl's background became stronger and stronger, enough for me to make this post. It happens to the best of the lot..some things are planned and some just happen..

Because honestly, if Nandini's sole purpose in the show is to be the one central character who fixes them all, who can't exist without being connected to anyone else, then it's just plain sad. i love ky2, I love all aspects of it...but ignorant negligence of the character who basically drives the story will be a tragedy...

VIKKU!!! you reading this mate??
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mais can I just give you a hug...
I like this serial more because of what it means to all of us. Our interpretations of the characters vary on our life experience.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The way u hv portray nandu is incrediable. Awesome post.
Nandini is nt dat kind of girl who will let out all her agony if given a chance. She will resist it. She dnt want some1 sympathy. She is strong. She cries when she feels d pain bt she never runs away. She wants to end her suffering. when fab5 hd make fun of her. she thought she will leave this place bt when she heard her chacha chachi talking about their problems, her own problem takes a back seat. She helped every1 bcoz she knows the value of kindness. She is all alone when she needs sm1, any1 who cn tell her everything is going to be okay. and she knows the pain when there is no1 so she always try to be there for others.
I cnt see her telling her life story with her own. Thats why her diary hs make a new entry in this show. All her secrets will cm out through them. well its my guess lets see what cv's r planning.
Edited by apardh_ba - 10 years ago
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Mais!! How the hell you manage to write about her so beautifully.
You leave me speechless every time.
I really hope CVs read this. They should read this. 😳

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