JA Oct 13|Hussein Under the Damocles' Sword, Updt Abhay P12, Oct14 P11 - Page 24

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Radhika, you seem to be really upset with the turn of events in today's episode.

Yesterday's pre-cap indicated the return of the 'jallad' Jalal . With this change in him , I was actually anticipating some tension between him and Jodha to surface , but I did not expect it to prolong for three years . ( I am hoping that this is wrong ) Anyway that is a part of Natakiya Roopantar and I let it be.

I have a different take on Jalal's behavior .This is purely my opinion , nobody has to agree with it.

Charu, refer to the lines in bold below. Actually I had expressed exactly similar sentiments, as you have done here, in my response to Gem on the previous page. Pls take a look. 😊

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I do understand your POV and I do share it too. It's just that my POV goes a bit further to the next logical level - that is, how Jalal's behavior is unacceptable and is hurtful to Jodha. Pls see this. 😊

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Very often sudden , intense grief can manifest itself into guilt and anger . This anger is often directed towards the person emotionally closest and most loved by the victim , In this case the victim is Jalal and the person whom he loves the most and is closest to , is Jodha.

Jalal is not angry with Jodha . He is angry with himself . The intense anger is caused by the guilt that stems from thinking that he was unable to be a responsible parent and provide a secure environment for the babies within the mahal, the mahal that is in his control .( We should recall how he helplessly yelled 'yeh mahal hamara hai' while the search for Zeenat and Mirza was on ).This guilt also stems from the realization that he was also equally responsible for Jodha staying away from Hussein on that fateful night . Every time he sees Jodha he is reminded of the twins that were a symbol of their union, every time he sees Jodha he feels that he has let her down as a husband . He is unable to face her , hence has isolated himself from her .

The anger that has enveloped him is flawing him in every possible way . Considering his personality , this is actually a good thing , because bottling up all that anger will only hold the guilt and grief within .By allowing that anger to flow , he is releasing all the pent up sorrow , helplessness and guilt that is tearing him apart . This release will bring him the clarity of thought that his mind desperately needs.

Definitely, anger should be released. But a mature man and Shahenshah of Hindustan is not an ordinary man to behave like one. He has to rise above ordinariness and release his anger through a proper channel. If Jalal goes to war and fights his enemies ruthlessly in this state of anger, I can understand. And even support him. When he was mutilating the body of a dead Qasim (another NR), I didn't mind that because that kind of release of anger for a warrior is understandable, even if not acceptable to us today. But releasing anger against a halpess woman who is herself devastated is a STRICT NO in my view. Just because we are close to someone, we cannot release our pent up emotions on them. In this 21st century, which husband or wife will accept quietly if the spouse releases their pent up emotions like this, just because the husband / wife is the one they are emotionally closest to?

There is a reason that the Creatives are showing the Chittoor war .The gory sight of the aftermath of the war will make him realize that by making the decision of going to war in anger and being indirectly responsible for all the innocent lives lost in battle , will not bring his dead babies back . Jodha's words of advice to him , prior to leaving for battle will haunt him and force him to rethink about his senseless brutality .

I will not discuss this war here, considering that will become a historical discussion then. But I agree with Abhay that the Chittor war is a sensitive subject in our history and should be treated with respect. AKbar had different reasons for that war and this NR is very hurtful to those for whom Chittor is still very personal.

His deep love for Jodha was amply clear from the quick but intense look of concern he shot at her , while marching down the mahal with Maan Singh in tow . The fact that he loves her was also visible when he insisted on her performing the tilak pooja , prior to his leaving for war . We heard him roaring at Rukaiya when she offered to stand-in for a hesitant Jodha .

There are 2 interpretations here why he insisted Jodha should do the tilak puja. You have presented one view. And I agree it may be so. But in my view, this tilak puja reminded me of the tilak puja last year when Jalal was going to fight against the to-be in-laws of Sukanya. The also, he had insisted that only Jodha should do the puja because he knew that she was against the war and he wanted to humiliate her by forcing her to pray for his victory against her people. I felt that he was similarly trying to humiliate Jodha yesterday by forcing her to pray for his success against her people when he knew that she was against the war.

If he really loved her, he wouldn't accuse her of what he did. Emotional withdrawal and separation in the aftermath of great grief is one thing. But to stoop to the level of humiliating a person who is emotionally dependent on you and is at her most vulnerable at that moment is another thing. I cannot see love here, only aggression and abuse. Anyway, this war NR is also too much. Akbar, in my opinion, never had a moment of epiphany like Ashoka, after any war.

There is immense love hidden behind that intense guilt ridden anger , pain and blame game . It is the influence of that very same guilt which is causing his self disgust , that will enable him to heal too .

"The course of true love never did run smooth". ( Shakespeare )

This temporary separation will prove to be bitter sweet .Jodha's love for him and vice versa will outweigh the guilt and anger that is eating him up .Their love for each other and the shared love for their babies , will help them heal from their grief . Jodha's mature level headed thinking will play a major role in bringing about a calming effect in him . She sees his pain and is allowing him to vent his sorrow , guilt and anger .Never once did we see her questioning his rude behavior towards her . She knows that in his present state , reacting to his behavior will only worsen the situation .Her quiet understanding is sustaining their relationship . She understands his imperfections , loves him in spite of them .She is silently suffering along with him . She is his 'ardhangini' in the truest sense .

Instead of becoming disheartened , we have to remember that this is a story of a kind but strong willed Rajput Princess who completely changed a jallad Jalal into a kind hearted and benevolent ruler whom we love even to this day . They were royalty but humans too . No relationship is perfect .

"A REAL relationship has fights , trusts , faith , tears , pain , arguments , separation, patience, jealousy and above all LOVE ".

It is this love that will enable them to overcome their guilt and sorrows and heal together.

(I am not endorsing Jalal's behavior . I am only trying to understand his state of mind and sharing my point of view ).

Thanks Charu for presenting Jalal's POV so lucidly. 😊 It's always good to have all possible POVs on the table so that all of us can benefit from the discussion.

I hope you will take my views too positively, as I have taken yours. 😊

Personally, Charu, I always empathize with women more than men. May be because men anyway have a lot of support. 😆

I had a different take earlier on how JJ will come closer together and help each other heal after the twins' demise. This NR is not what I expected. Jodha was his ardhangini, true. But he should also have been her equal partner. Jodha has no choice but to put up with his behavior because she has nowhere to go. I haven't been able to sense that Jodha is understanding his pain and keeping quiet to let him heal. Because after that accusation, she was really shattered. I have also failed to see any love behind his pain and anger. Doubtless, love is there, but it's suppressed deep down in the recesses of his heart, is what I feel. Right now, he is only seething and wants to burst out like a volcano. Jodha, due to the unfortunate detail of being present with him that fateful night, is having to face the brunt of his self-anger and self-loathing.

He will repent and return to her. And so the pattern will repeat, ad nauseum. Something happens. Jalal is angry. He hits out at Jodha because he is closest to her. She suffers silently. He repents. He apologizes. They get back together. Everyone says "poor Jalal, why does Jodha have to be made mahan every time" and so the story goes on. I thought I had seen the last of this steretyped formula but apparently, the CVs still love it and will continue to repeat it in future tracks too. 🤢

I am consoling myself by telling myself that this is not how Akbar treated MUZ. He was a ruthless king but a good husband. 😕

Charu .

I am not able to think straight at this point of time. All I can say here, is that neither of the two are entirely correct nor wrong. Jalal has his demons within, but his snubbing of Jodha while refusing to take a stand for her when she was continuously insulted by Ruqs is absolutely wrong. On the other hand, Jodha is the victim here no doubt, but all this child drama began because she gave in to Ruqs' request. All of this wouldn't have happened frankly, if she was selfish with regards to both her children. Jalal, has drained out emotionally but that is no way to behave with his wife. He doesn't realise that his behaviour with her will ultimately encourage Ruqs to behave with her in the same way as well. Ruqaiyya has achieved her motive of creating distance between Jodha and Jalal. They haven't separated because of each other, they have separated because of Ruqaiyya.

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

@Rashmi and Sindhu,

Even if it's only a few weeks, Jalal's behavior towards Jodha is unacceptable. She is not an ordinary woman. She is his wife. She is his queen. She was the MUZ, even if for only a few days.

She has also suffered the loss of twins like him. In fact, a mother's loss is greater and cannot be explained in any words. Someone had posted a few days back that Jalal lost the future that might have been but Jodha lost the past and present that she shared with the children right from the moment of their conception till their death.

My problem with this Jalal:

1. He has failed as a father to protect his children. He gave in to the zid of RUq and allowed an outsider (even if a relative) free access to his kids.

2. He has failed as a husband to JOdha by:

a. Giving enough leeway to Ruq so that she could easily manipulate JJ and take away one child

b. Not being able to do anything to let Jodha keep the twins for at least a year till they were nursing

c. Not being able to do anything while Ruq publicly kept insulting Jodha and didn't let her even touch Hussein

d. Not doing anything much to investigate how the fire happened or how Hasan suddenly took ill and died. We heard he was doing some investigation in this regard but nothing ever came out. Hasan's death remains a mystery.

e. Not supporting Jodha after both her kids died and allowing Ruq to publicly accuse Jodha of killing her kids. In fact, if anything, Jalal himself joined the tamasha and accused his wife of being a sort of nymphomaniac who left her child to die whilst enjoying herself with her husband.

I can understand Jalal is distressed by the loss. It's a major loss to anyone to lose much-awaited babies suddenly.

I can understand Jalal's anger with Allah, just as I could understand Jodha's anger with Kanha. But did Jodha at any stage point any finger at anyone - from Jalal to Ruq - of letting her babies die? Not even when she was shattered by Hasan's death did she ever accuse Jalal of carelessness in providing security or ask for Hussein back.

But Jalal didn't take a minute to turn his back on her - I cannot even begin to list all that Jodha has done for him till date. And accuse her in such filthy terms.

Yes, I would have understood if Jalal had become numb with shock and withdrawn totally from everyone and become hard as stone. WITHOUT accusing Jodha of killing her babies. THAT, Sindhu, would be understandable.

Then I could have appreciated the ruthless, heartless Jalal who emerged from the ruins of the Jalal who was trying to become Akbar. I would have SUPPORTED him.

But this Jalal cannot be JUSTIFIED in any manner. I wish to publicly ask ALL here that

if YOU were in place of Jodha, would you be able to understand your husband's pain and support him and love him and believe in his love for you, even if he accused you and treated you as Jalal did?

I don't mean to hurt anyone here. I just want you to look at the situation from Jodha's POV. She is hardly 20. She has been through a horrible pregnancy, a terrible childbirth and now lost the kids she bore with so much pain. Is she NOT deserving of her husband's support at this juncture?

I want to know if Jalal cannot SUPPORT her NOW, what is the use of all his declarations of love and support to Jodha? He should have let her die when she wanted to, after Hasan's death. Did he keep her alive then so that he could KILL her himself with PLEASURE NOW?

All those who say they are happy to see this ruthless JAlal. I want to ask you: Is this ruthlessness or cowardice at its worst?

Ruthlessness is a mind game, as much as courage. A ruthless man has NO fears and can face anything, including his PRIVATE demons. JAlal here is a fearful man and battling his demons. He is running away from his life situation and unable to come to terms with reality or act with any sense of responsibility. If he were really TOUGH, he would be able to contain his grief and support Jodha and take them both through the traumatic experience.

To me, the Jalal I saw post HAsan's death - HE was TOUGH. He was BRAVE. He could swallow his tears and lend his strength to Jodha.

This present Jalal - he is just an adult version of a school bully who gets pleasure by harassing those weaker to him (Jodha, due to her love for him and the twins) and is fearful of those who are stronger than him (Ruq, due to her crazy obsession for power and her freaking out at the loss of that power).

I am NOT looking forward to his reunion with Jodha. Or any Pilgrimage now. Because what does that mean to Jodha? Nothing. She has seen her husband take her and leave her AT HIS WILL. The Q she asked him in Mathura - what was her ASTITVA - remains UNANSWERED even TODAY.

When someone is hurt, they need first aid before anything else. If first aid is not given, all state of the art treatment later may not be enough to save them.

PS; Sindhu and Rashmi and all other friends - Sorry guys, Nothing personal. But I cannot accept Jodha being crucified like this for no fault. It ESP hurts when I can see that the woman who REALLY DESERVES to be punished is still going around strong with a smirk on her face.

I think THIS Jalal who accused Jodha and shut curtain on her face is a COWARD plain and simple. So instead of accepting blame for HIS share in the night - he used the token protest he had given Jodha by saying she should be with Hussain to lay ALL the blame on her.

What about the words he said to her that he got sukoon, his hurt is gone, all the seduction that followed? Did SHE force herself on him or HE seduced her?

How easily and conveniently he dumped EVERYTHING on her.

He is ashamed cos it is a HUGE blot on the Emperor that under his nose HIS relatives murdered his twins while he looked like a fool almost letting them run away without a clue about it

His security is pathetic and investigations even worse

He failed to provide any security to the waris of the Sultanate

Jalal was absolutely wonderful support to Jodha, her rock after Hassan passed away. So it seems that rock smashed to sand at Hussain's demise.

I absolutely get it that he blames The Almighty and his questions are all valid. He has a right to feel this way.

However, he had no right to dump the blame on Jodha - if Jalal had instead asked Jodha - does she feel guilt when she looks at him and thinks that when their child needed them they both were busy in each other's arms? He feels the guilt when he looks at her and thinks they both failed their child and being around her is a constant reminder that how they failed their child. So he cannot stand to be with her cos it reminds him of how HE failed the child and he is sure even Jodha feels that way. We know she is.

This is ACCEPTING the blame for his actions not dumping on her like a coward.

As for Ruk - Jalal has no spine when it comes to her. Jalal does not dare to say anything to her in public, Ruk can insult even HB, SB, Jodha is Ruk's punching bag and he lets her get away with everything cos he has no guts to stand upto Ruk who is tantrum throwing shrill crass violent woman without grace or manners BULLY and he is SHIT SCARED of Ruk.

So he did not dare to accuse Ruk saying YOU were the one who gave Zeenat access to twins letting her poison them. I do not buy this argument that Zeenat was in palace she would have got to twins anyway. This is just done to give clean chit to Ruk - cos Zeenat would not have been able to be in Haram all the time (she would have lived with her husband outside haram) and her presence would have been noticed and suspicions aroused. Jodha refused to let Zeenat do anything for Hussain but Ruk SENT Zeenat to Jodha's to keep watch on Jodha and being relative Jodha could not send her away.

Jodha's love for Jalal and going to meet him hearing he is injured has been turned into making her accused of murdering her own babies while the REAL people who should take blame Jalal and Ruk got away scot free.

So this Jalal is a coward who abuses Jodha at his will when things do not go according to him and is shit scared of Ruk's wrath and tantrums and all but shakes in her presence


They are saying no leap means they are going to show Jodha is already pregnant with Salim. So when Jalal was good his twins passed away but after he butchers 30,000 innocent lives he will be blessed with news that Jodha is pregnant and he will get his waris.

So all he has to do is ask for forgiveness and cry buckets - he does not even need to seduce her again she will be already shown pregnant with Salim.

To make viewers less angry with Jalal they will show a pale pathetic some kind of anger on Ruk by Jalal so viewers will look at him little kindly. He can be angry at Ruk for sometime cos he is getting waris. After Jodha gives birth he can immediately go cuddle Ruk and kiss her

Jodha is the ONLY loser here she lost her twins, her sacrifice at giving up her baby for his honor and to bring happiness to a barren woman was thrown in her face by these very same due blaming her for the deaths. There was NOT A WORD OF THANKS FROM JALAL AFTER JODHA GAVE HIM TWINS - NOR FROM RUK AFTER GETTING HUSSAIN - but when it came to blame these two easily dumped it all on Jodha so they can walk around guilt free.

Pathetic coward and bully

Radhika i dont no wat others think abt jalal and his action...but my opinion remains d same and it il never change...he failed as a husband lover father king and as human...he is not worth for jodha...even if tmw he reconciles with jo and repents then also i wont forgive him...he falsely accused jodha and running away from problems like a coward...just watching this show for jodha...i hv sideline both jalal and his bek...i cant forgive him...il give detail post once i reach home...i am travelling...typing frm mob..ignore mistakes..

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

@Rashmi and Sindhu,

Even if it's only a few weeks, Jalal's behavior towards Jodha is unacceptable. She is not an ordinary woman. She is his wife. She is his queen. She was the MUZ, even if for only a few days.

She has also suffered the loss of twins like him. In fact, a mother's loss is greater and cannot be explained in any words. Someone had posted a few days back that Jalal lost the future that might have been but Jodha lost the past and present that she shared with the children right from the moment of their conception till their death.

My problem with this Jalal:

1. He has failed as a father to protect his children. He gave in to the zid of RUq and allowed an outsider (even if a relative) free access to his kids.

2. He has failed as a husband to JOdha by:

a. Giving enough leeway to Ruq so that she could easily manipulate JJ and take away one child

b. Not being able to do anything to let Jodha keep the twins for at least a year till they were nursing

c. Not being able to do anything while Ruq publicly kept insulting Jodha and didn't let her even touch Hussein

d. Not doing anything much to investigate how the fire happened or how Hasan suddenly took ill and died. We heard he was doing some investigation in this regard but nothing ever came out. Hasan's death remains a mystery.

e. Not supporting Jodha after both her kids died and allowing Ruq to publicly accuse Jodha of killing her kids. In fact, if anything, Jalal himself joined the tamasha and accused his wife of being a sort of nymphomaniac who left her child to die whilst enjoying herself with her husband.

I can understand Jalal is distressed by the loss. It's a major loss to anyone to lose much-awaited babies suddenly.

I can understand Jalal's anger with Allah, just as I could understand Jodha's anger with Kanha. But did Jodha at any stage point any finger at anyone - from Jalal to Ruq - of letting her babies die? Not even when she was shattered by Hasan's death did she ever accuse Jalal of carelessness in providing security or ask for Hussein back.

But Jalal didn't take a minute to turn his back on her - I cannot even begin to list all that Jodha has done for him till date. And accuse her in such filthy terms.

Yes, I would have understood if Jalal had become numb with shock and withdrawn totally from everyone and become hard as stone. WITHOUT accusing Jodha of killing her babies. THAT, Sindhu, would be understandable.

Then I could have appreciated the ruthless, heartless Jalal who emerged from the ruins of the Jalal who was trying to become Akbar. I would have SUPPORTED him.

But this Jalal cannot be JUSTIFIED in any manner. I wish to publicly ask ALL here that

<font color="#990000">if YOU were in place of Jodha, would you be able to understand your husband's pain and support him and love him and believe in his love for you, even if he accused you and treated you as Jalal did?</font>

I don't mean to hurt anyone here. I just want you to look at the situation from Jodha's POV. She is hardly 20. She has been through a horrible pregnancy, a terrible childbirth and now lost the kids she bore with so much pain. Is she NOT deserving of her husband's support at this juncture?

I want to know if Jalal cannot SUPPORT her NOW, what is the use of all his declarations of love and support to Jodha? He should have let her die when she wanted to, after Hasan's death. <font color="#990000">Did he keep her alive then so that he could KILL her himself with PLEASURE NOW?</font>

All those who say they are happy to see this ruthless JAlal. I want to ask you: <font color="#990000">Is this ruthlessness or cowardice at its worst?</font>

Ruthlessness is a mind game, as much as courage. A ruthless man has NO fears and can face anything, including his PRIVATE demons. JAlal here is a fearful man and battling his demons. He is running away from his life situation and unable to come to terms with reality or act with any sense of responsibility. If he were really TOUGH, he would be able to contain his grief and support Jodha and take them both through the traumatic experience.

To me, the Jalal I saw post HAsan's death - HE was TOUGH. He was BRAVE. He could swallow his tears and lend his strength to Jodha.

This present Jalal - he is just an adult version of a school bully who gets pleasure by harassing those weaker to him (Jodha, due to her love for him and the twins) and is fearful of those who are stronger than him (Ruq, due to her crazy obsession for power and her freaking out at the loss of that power).

<font color="#9900cc">I am NOT looking forward to his reunion with Jodha</font>. Or any Pilgrimage now. Because what does that mean to Jodha? Nothing. <font color="#9900cc">She has seen her husband take her and leave her AT HIS WILL. The Q she asked him in Mathura - what was her ASTITVA - remains UNANSWERED even TODAY.</font>

When someone is hurt, they need first aid before anything else. If first aid is not given, all state of the art treatment later may not be enough to save them.

PS; Sindhu and Rashmi and all other friends - Sorry guys, Nothing personal. But I cannot accept Jodha being crucified like this for no fault. It ESP hurts when I can see that the woman who REALLY DESERVES to be punished is still going around strong with a smirk on her face.

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Thanks Charu for sharing your views. 👏

@radhika: superb depiction. U have added every point of a failure husband of jodha. Largely what jalal does? Jalal thousand times promises to Jo that he won't ever hurt her but at the crucial time he leaves Jo lonely then when he agains thinks now Jodha is necessary for him he comes back to jo n seeks forgiveness to weep bucket after bucket before Jo. Just typical ekta's pathetic hero. Real Jalal character has been slaughtered by ekta n she made Jalal's role asusual as like as her other shows's tom dick n harry type heros.

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Good morning Priya .

Thank you for liking the writeup . It was an attempt on my part to understand Jalal's current state of mind . My analysis does indicate that I approve of his reactions , sympathize with him or agree with his lashing out at Jodha .

That one major accusation he hurled at Jodha, so quietly in almost a 'matter of fact' way will cause him more guilt and pain than even the death of his twins . The realization that he was unfair and nasty to her will definitely tear him apart . She is being extremely large hearted to him , I think at some point her patience may also snap and her reaction will jolt him to come out of his current 'jallad' state . Hopefully this is shown .

I am not in the least bit in a positive frame of mind . I am trying to be calm with words , only because I know that even by venting my frustrations , there is no use , the Creatives are hell bent on testing our sanity by showing us nonsense in the name of history .

This is the only show that I watch for entertainment . I have become emotionally attached to the characters . I had to take the step of distancing myself from the characters and stop harping on the negatives , because it started affecting my day to day life. It came to a point where the development of the story is all that I could think of . I was also unable to concentrate on my job .I just could not afford to slacken in this aspect , since I hold a sensitive responsibility at work . Hence the deliberate attempt at focusing on positivity and not replying to several well written posts even though my fingers would be itching to do so ..

Charu .

Charu i can very well connect with what you are saying as over the last week even i have lost some sleep trying to think of something desperately positive . I watch serials on and off ,but this ja and jo are the one i got so emotionally attached except srk of mahabharat whom i simply adore and admire.But as of yesterday,though this has exceptional actors i have started seeing it as any another ordinary serial and finally got a good night sleep.Like you say its good to get an emotional detachment . so take care and start seeing this just as typical hero and heroines of all mega serials going around.In and around if we are lucky we may get some scenes which we can feel happy about.

Originally posted by: prav2

Charu i can very well connect with what you are saying as over the last week even i have lost some sleep trying to think of something desperately positive . I watch serials on and off ,but this ja and jo are the one i got so emotionally attached except srk of mahabharat whom i simply adore and admire.But as of yesterday,though this has exceptional actors i have started seeing it as any another ordinary serial and finally got a good night sleep.Like you say its good to get an emotional detachment . so take care and start seeing this just as typical hero and heroines of all mega serials going around.In and around if we are lucky we may get some scenes which we can feel happy about.

agree with u both.

@bold: this is what I am working on right now...

My take on yesterdays episode

the epic love story they showed for last 352 episodes is dead today... They have made a mockery out of Real Akbar and MUZ

Just loved only jodha..after going thru hell lot of pain and many tortures she stood beside jalal as his support..this is unconditional love .. not like jalal ..who runs away from problems like a coward and tortures jo and leaves her all alone to handle her problems alone..unfit to be a husband

wat they did that night was a two way street..so blaming jodha alone like a coward running away from problems becoming jallad doest give him that sukoon that he il get it from jodha..he is in a guilt and in pain that thr mohabbat made them lose thr baby..but at the same time if not today tmw hussain il die..and he is destined to die..and no one can stop that..jalal fail to understand that we cant change wat is written in destiny.. he was thinking since his innocent kids were killed he il kill other innocent people..but that was in destiny and no one can go against destiny and god..

Now the story is back to square one ,ruthless and cruel Jalal on one side and selfish greedy women on the other side and both mughals blamed kids mother as the murderer ..today they proved they are mughals and jodha is not part of thr religion..easily put all blame on jodha..and showed such a discrimination

he proved that he is a bloody male like others..wen jalal accused jodha..she kept quiet coz she feels some whr she was not thr to save her kid wen he was in danger..how long does it take for her to ask if she had forced him to spend the night with her...if he was so worried, why didn't he go to Hussein that night...what steps did he take to protect Hussein after Hasan's death...why he had allowed Ruq to appoint Zeenat as the dai for Hussein...why Ruq sent Zeenat to her hojra when Jodha was fully capable of feeding Hussein herself...

Being a mother she had gone thru all pain and inturn got d blame as the murderer..wat was her mistake..coz she married to to this heartless person..who in a sec expresses his lov for her and next min throws her out of his life.. its infact she should ask all these questions to him and agra clan just she is married to him her kids died..his selfish relatives who took her kids life..whr as a father he failed to protect them..even after knowing that his cousin's family suffered coz of his father humayun.. he failed to do the security check..he failed to keep an eye on them wen they both were caught on the very first day..when he and his bek believed his cousin and his wife y would jo suspect them..more over it was rukku who had given free access to Zeenat to reach out to his kids..he failed to see that ..he was incapable in protecting his kids..jo was not aware of hassan's death.she still thinks it was natural.but this jallad knows its not natural then y didn't he force her to go back..or y didn't he join her and go to jodha's hojra..

He is not worth for jodha..he deserves only people like rukku maham MC abu mali sharif and many others.. his bek used everyone for her own audha..his bek insulted him in dek...he had forgiven her..coz she is a mughal and his blood..wat was jodha's mistake..coz she went to see him..at that time this fellow who was half drunk and his harmones made him sleep with her..and later on easily blamed jo..whr was this so called father wen hassan was poisoned during jashan..whr was this so called father wen zeenat tried to kill hussain on day one..if javeda was not thr hussain wud hav died long back..

today he failed as a so called lover..so called husband..so called father ..who blamed his own kids mother as the reason of thr death..he failed as a king..as an emperor..he failed as a human...

As a lover he he failed coz he never tried to understand jodha's pain..today both jalal and rukku behaved as if they are the real parents and jodha is surrogate mother..who is just a baby giving machine.. he was not loyal to jo ..never he stood up for jo wen she was in need of it..

As a husband he failed all his responisblities..wen others were insulting he failed to protect her..wen others were blaming her instead he too went against her and treated her as doormat

As a father of twins he failed badly..he failed to protect his kids..and gave free access to assasins and trusted them and his bek than his soul mate..he inturn blamed kids mother being responsible for thr death..how wud thr children feel in heaven that thank god instead of being kids to such monster its better we died..in a rage my so called father blamed my mother for our death...wen the reason behind our death was coz of my grand father and father deeds..my mom had to go thru so much pain..

He failed as a king ...who failed to give justice to jodha and his kids.. and inturned blamed jodha

Failed as a human..he is not fit to be called as human..wen he can blame kids own mother he can do anything..

3 years is a long period of time for any woman to hold on to hoping her husband would return to her. And then what kind of man? If he blamed Jodha for Hussein's death, why didn't he blame Ruq for Hasan's death?

and why didn't he blame himself for both deaths because ultimately he was the decision maker and the entire responsibility was his?he is behaving as if rajvanshi's killed his sons..whr in his so called realtives his agra clan and his bek killed his sons..

These sadist CVs killed the love story and murdered the real characters of Akbar and MUZ

The day jodha truns heartless and ruthless only then entire agra clan il get to no and il come to thr senses

After what is being shown. How can any woman trust such a man, who instead of supporting her in her time of need, killed her soul.

There was no need to show him being angry with Jodha and Jodha being sidelined to remove the focus from her in a war against her people. Even if relations between the two are normal, he can still decide to go on war and she can still be shown to oppose him on this.. But I never imagined that Jodha would be punished for a crime she didn't commit.

Better they change the show's name and rename it as akbar the grt or any other name..its an insutlt to jodha and akbar..showing the title doesn't refer to Jodha being the love of Akbar's life but how he humiliated her all his life and how she was just dirt in his eyes and to prove that actually there never was any love story

If I am at jodha's place I would have removed him from my life and wud hav lived a life only for god ..no one was loyal to her..neither her friend moti nor hb nor salima nor amer clan nor so called husband.. only god can heal her pain.. its better to leave everyone and go to some piligrim and live her life thr..if nor its better to take her life instead of living her life with such selfish people..no one deserves her..this show is no

By the way wat is maansingh doing thr..he was thr to protect jodha..but no he is busy in doing chemchagiri to jalal.

I will add more later, but for the moment...Here are my views..

Ekta has gone mad and today was the limit. I won't go in details of Chittor discussion, as it is against the forum rules, but still i did not like what the HOLY CRAP was shown today.

Totally nonsense reasons were given by Jalal for attack.. The attack 'as more for personal reasons than anything, and not because of shelter to the enemy of Jalal. It 'as frustration and was more about the EGO factor. You don't slaughter UNARMED civilians after eliminating the army just because the opposition was your STRONG enemy..

But Ekta has changed all that in her NR.. Sorry, but today Jalal was shown OTT, as if he is some psycho. Don't know what Ekta wants to show...She should have skipped all this...

Will post later.. Have to go now..First time i felt so much angry watching this show..Don't know if Ekta cares for this show's health.?.