Jodha Akbar 187: Conduct unbecoming

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Folks,


I have been out of commission, with a virulent attack of viral conjunctivitis with complications, which is how you have had this over 2 weeks break from me😉 - my last post was about Episode 174. I hasten to reassure you that I am not back, and am unlikely to be for a while yet, so this is a one off post, a sort of letting off steam after last night's episode. Which I did not like, except for one bit, of which more below.

A statutory warning might be useful at this point, As most of you would know, Jalal is a great favourite of mine, my very own boy whom I have defended consistently under any and all circumstances. But not for last night. So those who were delighted with Jalal last night might like to stop at this point. For the conduct unbecoming of the title refers, solely and squarely, to him.

This post is not about this Ruqaiya, who last night was, well, this Ruqaiya. That is to say, scheming, devious, unprincipled, self-satisfied, and worst of all, stupid. I would have forgiven her all the rest if only she had been more intelligent. Anyone with an ounce of sense would have seen at once how Jalal was likely to react to such an implausible plan to incriminate Jodha. As he demonstrated at the meeting with his begums, when he rubbished the idea of Jodha being the culprit, primarily on the grounds that it made no practical sense at all for her to pull such a stunt.

Nor is it about Jodha, who was throughout calm, dignified, restrained, and above all, spared us any more of her uplifting bhashans.

It is all about Jalal. I disapproved of almost everything he did last night, and more so of the way in which he did it. Let me explain why,

- He abandons his political affairs meeting to rush off to rescue his Jodha Begum. Well, you will say, so what is new? But the way he let a mere baandi interrupt a Diwan--e-Khaas meeting was unbelievable. How the devil did he let her even open her mouth? Before the Shahenshah? And how ever was she given admittance? It was beyond ridiculous.

- Of course he believes Jodha, which is a given these days, and this time he does so with good reason, for as noted above Ruqaiya's grand plan made no logical sense from the very beginning. So he does not merit any brownie points for that.

As for the genuflection in front of the Krishna idol and taking the aarti and the prasad, it is as well for him that no mullah was hiding behind the curtains. To me, it seemed this time, unlike on the previous occasion when he offers Jodha the aarti, less like a charming gesture of genuine devotion and more like an ostentatious gesture of solidarity with her.

This apart, pretty soon we will see him do a shashtaang namaskaar as well, not just to Lord Krishna, which is par for the course, but to Jodha Begum. He is already doing it in the spirit every time he sidles up to her , as he did in the angoori bagh scene, and hesitantly caresses her fingers, only to draw his away when his touch-me-not beloved extricates hers. He looked then not like any kind of emperor, but like a lovesick teenager, except that any self-respecting teenager in a cinema with his girl friend would have caught her hand firmly and held it. 😉

There is a kind of subservience in the way Jalal behaves in such scenes with Jodha these days that I find distinctly off putting. He might be in love for the first time, but that does not mean he has to become supine and helpless like this.He sounds more like a court poet lavishing praise on his lord and master than anything else.

- In the meeting with the begums, I did not at all like the way he shouted at the begum in green. He was bullying them from the word go, and it was quite clear that it was his intention to make sure that they did not stray from supporting Jodha Begum. But he had asked them for their views, and when that poor woman started to voice her objection, he slapped her down in the most aggressive and uncivilised manner possible,. Why?

He could simply have held up his hand and she would have stopped at once. That would have befitted the dignity of his rank. Where was the need for all this ranting about his status as a Shahenshah, which in any case seems to come out only with those too weak to stand up to him?

It was the same with his shutting Ruqaiya up in public with brutal vehemence,when he could have halted her with an upraised hand. Again, it was both undignified and totally unnecessary.

Before you all counter that Ruqaiya deserved to be verbally slapped down, which is absolutely true, I would emphasise that that this is NOT the point here. The rest of the begums do not know that the culprit is Ruqaiya. She is still the Begum-e-Khaas. Responding to her last comment the way Jalal did was demeaning of her stature and equally demeaning of his own.

When he knew that it was Ruqaiya ( his spies work overtime to exculpate Jodha Begum, it seems, though they, and he, are totally in the dark as to what Sharifuddin is up to, what Abul Mali is up to, and what Adham Khan is up to) - where was the need to threaten the whole assemblage with dire consequences if there was any recurrence of such a trick? And to add that this would amount to challenging the Shahenshah?

This is to a pack of terrified females who wait for weeks to catch a glimpse of him, mostly in vain, and who had already been reduced to petrified silence by the way in which he had dressed down the begum in green.

Jalal looked and sounded like a pompous schoolmaster strutting around in the schoolyard, bullying the pupils and threatening them with a caning. It was a pathetic show.

All of his ranting seemed meant to impress Jodha with the strength of his faith in her nek dil, and the extent to which he was ready to go, not just to defend her honour, but to make sure that she won the election, for surely none of the assembled begums would be ready to oppose her now, and favour the roundly snubbed Begum-e-Khaas in what would surely not be a secret ballot.

- Lastly, the scene with a frightened Ruqaiya. She had surely done something that went beyond the pale, but who egged her on with dire warnings about how the hunar ki khaan Jodha Begum would run rings round her before she even realised it? Why, Jalal. Why did he have to do that?

And had he not plotted and schemed with the selfsame Ruqaiya against Jodha in the past, and had he too not done things acutely humiliating to Jodha, and in public, during the Benazir phase, to get back at her for The Dhakka? So how was all that excusable in him, and how has Ruqaiya now suddenly become a pariah because of this mindless folly of hers, which is any case not going to become public knowledge? Why, it is very likely because Jodha Begum nowadays condescends to smile upon Jalal from time to time, and when she does not, he is on pins till he has found out whether or not she is khafa with him.

I can only repeat what I had written on my last thread - which is still alive, after 18 days, at 78 pages ! -a week ago, about Jalal's Elect Jodha as Harem Superintendent campaign.

"Next inciting Ruqaiya to be wary of Jodha's alleged cunning and her propensity to pull fast ones over her opponents. He also clearly says that Jodha is Ruqaiya's dushman.

He was sly and scheming, not dominating and decisive. In short, what he did seemed cheap, something beneath the dignity ot the position he holds.

To play one woman against another, and for what? His personal amusement?His "best friend" Ruqaiya's humiliation? One more coat of gilt to Jodha's 24 carat halo? So that she gains in status as the in charge of the harem?

The kind of Jalal I could admire would have sat Ruqaiya down and talked to her, soberly, rationally, persuasively and forcefully, as only he can, so that the stupid woman has some sense drilled into her head and does not self destruct. He owes that to what they have been to each other since their childhood.

He would not, like this one, egg her on to further follies so that he can laugh at her and rejoice in Jodha shining even more by contrast. It is despicable, and not at all my idea of a "best friend". A friend is one who saves you from committing follies, even if this has to be in spite of yourself. Not one who pushes you even deeper into the pit of your making.

In fact it is Jalal who is degrading himself, and pulling Rajat down with him."

I feel exactly the same now, especially re: the part in blue. He screams at Ruqaiya and bullies her as never before, and ends with a caustic comment about his having lost almost all the regard he had for her.

This is not the way a friend deals with even the worst follies committed by his bachpan ki dost. I would not want a friend like this Jalal at any cost. The way he handles Ruqaiya is tailormade to push her to commit even worse follies, which is perhaps what he wants, so that he can have a valid excuse for ditching her altogether.

He yells at the cowering Ruqaiya for having dared to tamper with the Mughal kayda (by introducing the Hindu idols into the harem). But in the angoori bagh, he in effect contradicts himself when he tells Jodha that if she had in fact introduced the Hindu idols into the harem, he would have gone along with it.

That is implicit in that long spiel he indulges in about his (undoubtedly admirable) trait of having equal respect for all religions, and his belief that all human beings should have the right to worship the Almighty in their own way. (Incidentally, Jalal seems to believe that doing this is a sure recipe for peace and happiness all around. He seems to have no idea of the violent denominational fights within all religions).

In fact, I was surprised that he did not announce at the meeting with the begums that all the Hindu daasis would henceforth be free to worship their God as they pleased. He will surely get around to it after the jaziya and the pilgrimage tax have been abolished, and he will probably put up a plaque in the harem - by then it would have been renamed Begum Jodha Shahi Harem, just like roads,, libraries etc are these days😉 - giving her sole credit for all these epochal changes.

Yes, now for the bit I did like. It was when Jalal asserts that he was always respectful of other religions, that he was always for religious freedom and equality of all faiths. By implication, that these wonderful traits and beliefs of his were sui generis, not inculcated in him by Jodha Begum.

He does indulge in a bit of revisionist fiddling with the truth when he claims that it was because of these beliefs of his that he agreed to her pre-wedding sharts - he agreed to her conditions, which he declared were very major ones, because he wanted to marry her at all costs, not because he was so broad-minded. But never mind. I was glad that Jalal gave himself some much needed credit for his own breadth of vision. So, as and when he becomes Akbar, he cannot be labelled "Completely Made Over by Jodha Begum".

Well, that took way more than the 30 minutes the doctor allots me as laptop time per day. So I shall have to make up for this over indulgence by total abstention for two days at least. So bye, folks, and have a great time rebutting my tirades against my favourite boy. And yes, Rajat was magisterial, especially in the angoori bagh segment.

Alas, the Jalal-Jodha chemistry quotient is now, after the highs of the immediate post-Benazir period and the Seth-Sethani track, at a dismal low. Their interactions are juvenile; Jalal cannot go beyond ribbing her about her jealousy, and Jodha's pouts are becoming so routine that they are tiresome. They have not moved an inch on the road to any kind of amar prem, and in fact she seems to have retreated several steps from the delightful, romantic camaderie of Badal-Kajri, which I loved. I suppose there will be something far more obsessive and fierce somewhere down the line, but for now, Jalal and Jodha make me yawn.


Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Shyamala, 😭😭😭, I somehow felt that you wouldn't like it, but didn't know that you will bash him so much. Still I loved the episode and a mere bandhi walking in, he did question her that, how could she disturb the sabha, but he was an approachable Emperor, wasn't he?? I want to defend him, will come back with the post later.😉
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Shyamala,
Lovely and wise post. Yes, I agree with you on his stand on Ruqaiya. If Ruqaiya isd at fault now, it was the upbrining and tolerance showed by Jalal & Hamida from the day one. Had they condemned her in initial days, she would not have become like this.
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I didn't see you liking the DEK segment & I wasn't wrong!

I'll just copy-paste what I wrote on your last thread since this one is about yester-night's episode.


Aunty, while I loved Rajat & Jalal yesterday, his behaviour with Ruqaiyya has been very disappointing.

Yet, I wasn't disappointed yesterday. I think she had it coming.

His curt responses ( he wasn't shouting at her at the DEK segment) was appropriate. It wasn't right of her to openly accuse Jodha in front of all the begums, courtiers & the rest of the Mughal house-hold.

It was cheap & only under-mined her position as BEK.



What I loved was that he makes his stand clear & then calls her to her apartments & blasts her. He only tells her that earlier it was she who used to penly admit to her mistakes, then what made her do this today & why is she still openly lying to him?


I don't see anything wrong in his treatment of her yesterday or with those 2 begums.



The rest of what you say, I completely agree with you.





P.S. The baandi strolling into the DEK session was absurd beyond belief!! But what else is new? When they can cheerfully decide that Sikri was built for Jodha & the Emperor & a chief consort can traipse through Indian country-side, I expect nothing better.


But it was glaring & annoying. If it was the real Mughal court in session, she firstly, would never have been allowed inside, and one chance in a thousand , if she had been, she would've been lashed.


Also, what is this strange decorum that is followed by the help around the Mughal fort? They walk in & out almost like they'e strolling in to meet a childhood friend & NOT the Shahenshaa-E-Hind!

And when they take leave, they do so without doing adaab & backing out with their backs turned!


It's un-heard of.

Every servant/vassal/ ally of the Emperor could not walk out showing their back to the Emperor!!!



P.P.S How're your eyes now aunty? 🤗
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Aunty...🤗

Lots of valid points raised...but, I have seen everything in a different light to yours aunty - wonder if it'd satisfy you!😛

My poor Jalal...there is not a single episode that goes by where his actions are not dissected and watched with a critical eye - especially in the past three months...😭

I feel that we expect him to be Lord Krishna to Jodha, Lord Ram to Ruqaiyya, Shakuni mama to Shareef/Adham, Chandragupta Maurya in the DEK and Ashoka on the battlefield...

But, he is 22 year old Jalal...and I love him for it!

DEK

Aunty ...there have been many scenes lately where they don't show the announcements and all...so, its possibly a given an announcement was made before she stepped in.

He is annoyed about her interruption - but, when the affair came to be known - it wasn't something totally insignificant since it goes against the traditions of the Mughal Sultanat, doesn't it?😕 Yes, Jalal will bring a change to that henceforth...but as of now, it was still wrong doing!

If nothing else, a blooper - but, then every serial is riddled with something of this sort.. 😆

HAREM COURT

That was only a Harem court...so only the women alone...I felt that him shouting at them NOT to interrupt wasn't really that out-of-place...and why aunty are you so harsh on the lad for shouting back at Ruq when she's been bursting his eardrums for the past four months? 😆 The guy had barely returned from one office to step into another and voila more problems...bass the CEO lost his cool...

On a more serious note - obviously, he's been annoyed with the harem issues lately spilling on to his political affairs et al - (Remember, how he mutters that the harem war was worse than any other war he's seen😆)! Surely, he was far more dignified in shutting them up than the women who were WWFing barely a day ago in the harem😆

Also, the 'unfairness' of the harem kaand and issues coming to light lately have given him a bad reality check, me thinks

JALAL-RUQ

Before saying that we'd never wish a friend like Jalal in our life... wouldn't we rather never have a friend like Ruqaiyya first?

Everyone's saddened that he gave up on Ruqaiyya soon...but, where is it soon? Every time he asks his friend the question 'Do you want me, do you feel jealous when I spend time with other ladies...and what am I to you?'

Her answer in various (actions, gestures, words) have been 'You are the Emperor and I am your chief consort...You are a man of power and position and I'm proud to be associated with that power and position!'

Which best friend really gives an answer like that?^^^

Ruqaiyya is loyal to the Mughal Sultanat and obsessed with the power she holds in it - Jalal is a means (albeit her favourite means) of ensuring her Sultanat and her position in said Sultanat is safe!

He is supposed to sit down and have a talk with her? Why? Did she sit down and have a talk with him when he lost his father? Did she sit down and have a chat with him when he was committing blunder after blunder during the Ben track? He was blinded by ego, right? What about her - she could have thought of it rationally! She is supposed to be his advisor right? Her egging him to marry Benazir during that track was in far poorer light than anything Jalal's done to her lately! After that, Jalal granted her a gift in the DEK for getting rid of Benazir - did she apologize to him for having committed mistakes? No! Instead, she tells Jodha choose anything BUT Jalal...like REALLY?

HIS EGGING

And as for the egging - the Jo vs Ruqs primarily started during the BEK elections, right? He teased/warned both Ruqaiyya (with a smile) about Hunar ki khaan and Jodha with a frown about Ruq's intelligence!

Even then, after he teased Ruq about the chess game - and saw her reactions - he disappointedly advices her not to be so driven to delight about the loss of Jodha rather than the victory of her friend! In that way, he's been egging Jodha too - to confess her feelings and the jalan bit!

This 'teasing' habit of his might be a drawback, an annoying characteristic of his - whatever - but, its nothing new! Initial episodes when the twosome were more cordial the egging ended with pleasurable scenes. (I like it when you get angry and I like to manaa you) Lately, when he's realizing Ruqaiyya's reality, the ending is not so pleasurable!

Jalal is good to those who are good to him...vindictive towards those when he thinks/learns of those who are not so good (when he realizes the truth that is)!

For all of her initial shortcomings, he forgave Jodha because apart from being attracted to her, he knew she was a woman of integrity - one who didn't crave power/position/materialistic comforts!

At the same time, despite all she's done for him lately - neither has he forgotten the narnaal issue, nor has he forgotten the dhakka incident!

For all of her shortcomings, he kept forgiving Ruqaiyya up until the recent Harem meeting. He trusted her to be truthful to him if nothing else! He trusted her allegiance to the Sultanat and thought she was 'just' in Sultanat affairs if nothing else (like how she gave the land back to Saleema in the DEK scene)

Now; despite all of their history together, he's never going to forgive Ruqaiyya for having back-stabbed his trust in this manner!

He's put up with her audha rants, with her constant 'tell me you don't love Jodha Begum' with her 'I me and myself' importance because he knew it was HER!

However, with the recent harem issues coming to light (Begums complaining about how they're being mistreated), him watching how she was pulling Jodha along etc he was beginning to get disillusioned! This moorthi plot only made it worse!

JALAL IN JO VS RUQ

And I also wouldn't say that Jalal's cerebral cog-wheels ONLY work in Jodha's case and not in Ruq's (it would seem that way cos this entire serial has been outlined with tracks that show every other person in the Sultanat plotting against Jodha!)

His brain had stopped working during the Tasneem track (a Ruqs affair) due to depression and during Benazir track (A Jodha affair) due to ego! Also, during Ruq's MC kaand he had taken it upon himself to do the investigation and solved it too - till MA outwitted him at the last minute!

As long as he is clever enough

and treats women with dignity - especially in public, I have no qualms about the rest of his portrayal! 😆

As for why he's so fond of Jodha - well, its a given...Heer Kunwari was Akbar's beloved...he spoilt her, adored her, had a separate palace built for her...then what's wrong if this Jalal does the same? At least, we see HK is a strong woman, intelligent and beautiful...at least here Ruqs is not very desirable as a companion...

There have been kings who've fallen for beloved queen no.5 or no.6 when queen no2, queen no3 or queen no4 did nothing really wrong!

Yes, he is no 'Holier than thou' white hero...but, then that's what makes watching this grey-shaded guy so interesting...as Divya had said - his action every day is the wildcard... changes a track every possible way!😃

Ayooo, this was a long composition...hope I didn't bore anyone to death...just my views..not meant to offend anyone...😳

Periyamma hope your eyes get better by the day 🤗


Oh yes, but my prime complaint was the scene where Jodha recoiled her hand suddenly - I felt it sapped the flavour out of a scene that could have been better! 😕

High time CVs are realistic in this issue - leads have been married close to a year now... this recoiling hand etc is not realistic at all!
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Aunty, good to see you back with your post 😊
but I loved Jalal yesterday and he chose between right and wrong which I felt was expected from an Emperor who is head of the family also.

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will be back with my comment soon.
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Ma'am, trust you to play the devil's advocate in the forum!
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Welcome back!! After a long time!
the title of this post had me thinking it to be about Rukqaiya but you surprised me with this little bolt at the outset itself.
Frankly was a bit disappointed with two instances myself and do agree with your POV on them. The 1st was when, while leaving Jo's hojra, Jalal pays obeisance to Kanha. that moment while watching my spontaneous reaction was "showgiri". But then on reflection, Jalal is not the kind to do things without reason, so what was the message he was trying to convey thru' this act of his??
The 2nd instance which left a bad taste was of course as you pointed out, Jalal shouting on the begum who tried to state a point :(( he should have used that voice on Ruks instead when she ,with such lack of 'tameez', unceremoniously raises fingers on Jodha as the culprit.
As to Jalal's behaviour, he seems to go out of his way to please people who are his fav. at that point of time,but aner or cross him and out comes the ruthless avenger!
Missed your posts during this whole time. Recuperate fast and good. 🤗
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Originally posted by: lashy

Aunty...🤗

Lots of valid points raised...but, I have seen everything in a different light to yours aunty - wonder if it'd satisfy you!😛

My poor Jalal...there is not a single episode that goes by where his actions are not dissected and watched with a critical eye - especially in the past three months...😭

I feel that we expect him to be Lord Krishna to Jodha, Lord Ram to Ruqaiyya, Shakuni mama to Shareef/Adham, Chandragupta Maurya in the DEK and Ashoka on the battlefield...

But, he is 22 year old Jalal...and I love him for it!

DEK

Aunty ...there have been many scenes lately where they don't show the announcements and all...so, its possibly a given an announcement was made before she stepped in.

He is annoyed about her interruption - but, when the affair came to be known - it wasn't something totally insignificant since it goes against the traditions of the Mughal Sultanat, doesn't it?😕 Yes, Jalal will bring a change to that henceforth...but as of now, it was still wrong doing!

HAREM COURT

That was only a Harem court...so only the women alone...I felt that him shouting at them NOT to interrupt wasn't really that out-of-place...and why aunty are you so harsh on the lad for shouting back at Ruq when she's been bursting his eardrums for the past four months? 😆 The guy had barely returned from one office to step into another and voila more problems...bass the CEO lost his cool...

On a more serious note - obviously, he's been annoyed with the harem issues lately spilling on to his political affairs et al - (Remember, how he mutters that the harem war was worse than any other war he's seen😆)! Surely, he was far more dignified in shutting them up than the women who were WWFing barely a day ago in the harem😆

Also, the 'unfairness' of the harem kaand and issues coming to light lately have given him a bad reality check, me thinks

JALAL-RUQ

Before saying that we'd never wish a friend like Jalal in our life... wouldn't we rather never have a friend like Ruqaiyya first?

Everyone's saddened that he gave up on Ruqaiyya soon...but, where is it soon? Every time he asks his friend the question 'Do you want me, do you feel jealous when I spend time with other ladies...and what am I to you?'

Her answer in various (actions, gestures, words) have been 'You are the Emperor and I am your chief consort...You are a man of power and position and I'm proud to be associated with that power and position!'

Which best friend really gives an answer like that?^^^

Ruqaiyya is loyal to the Mughal Sultanat and obsessed with the power she holds in it - Jalal is a means (albeit her favourite means) of ensuring her Sultanat and her position in said Sultanat is safe!

He is supposed to sit down and have a talk with her? Why? Did she sit down and have a talk with him when he lost his father? Did she sit down and have a chat with him when he was committing blunder after blunder during the Ben track? He was blinded by ego, right? What about her - she could have thought of it rationally! She is supposed to be his advisor right? Her egging him to marry Benazir during that track was in far poorer light than anything Jalal's done to her lately! After that, Jalal granted her a gift in the DEK for getting rid of Benazir - did she apologize to him for having committed mistakes? No! Instead, she tells Jodha choose anything BUT Jalal...like REALLY?

HIS EGGING

And as for the egging - the Jo vs Ruqs primarily started during the BEK elections, right? He teased/warned both Ruqaiyya (with a smile) about Hunar ki khaan and Jodha with a frown about Ruq's intelligence!

Even then, after he teased Ruq about the chess game - and saw her reactions - he disappointedly advices her not to be so driven to delight about the loss of Jodha rather than the victory of her friend! In that way, he's been egging Jodha too - to confess her feelings and the jalan bit!

This 'teasing' habit of his might be a drawback, an annoying characteristic of his - whatever - but, its nothing new! Initial episodes when the twosome were more cordial the egging ended with pleasurable scenes. (I like it when you get angry and I like to manaa you) Lately, when he's realizing Ruqaiyya's reality, the ending is not so pleasurable!

Jalal is good to those who are good to him...vindictive towards those when he thinks/learns of those who are not so good (when he realizes the truth that is)!

For all of her initial shortcomings, he forgave Jodha because apart from being attracted to her, he knew she was a woman of integrity - one who didn't crave power/position/materialistic comforts!

At the same time, despite all she's done for him lately - neither has he forgotten the narnaal issue, nor has he forgotten the dhakka incident!

For all of her shortcomings, he kept forgiving Ruqaiyya up until the recent Harem meeting. He trusted her to be truthful to him if nothing else! He trusted her allegiance to the Sultanat and thought she was 'just' in Sultanat affairs if nothing else (like how she gave the land back to Saleema in the DEK scene)

Now; despite all of their history together, he's never going to forgive Ruqaiyya for having back-stabbed his trust in this manner!

He's put up with her audha rants, with her constant 'tell me you don't love Jodha Begum' with her 'I me and myself' importance because he knew it was HER!

However, with the recent harem issues coming to light (Begums complaining about how they're being mistreated), him watching how she was pulling Jodha along etc he was beginning to get disillusioned! This moorthi plot only made it worse!

JALAL IN JO VS RUQ

And I also wouldn't say that Jalal's cerebral cog-wheels ONLY work in Jodha's case and not in Ruq's (it would seem that way cos this entire serial has been outlined with tracks that show every other person in the Sultanat plotting against Jodha!)

His brain had stopped working during the Tasneem track (a Ruqs affair) due to depression and during Benazir track (A Jodha affair) due to ego! Also, during Ruq's MC kaand he had taken it upon himself to do the investigation and solved it too - till MA outwitted him at the last minute!

As long as he is clever enough

and treats women with dignity - especially in public, I have no qualms about the rest of his portrayal! 😆

As for why he's so fond of Jodha - well, its a given...Heer Kunwari was Akbar's beloved...he spoilt her, adored her, had a separate palace built for her...then what's wrong if this Jalal does the same? At least, we see HK is a strong woman, intelligent and beautiful...at least here Ruqs is not very desirable as a companion...

There have been kings who've fallen for beloved queen no.5 or no.6 when queen no2, queen no3 or queen no4 did nothing really wrong!

Yes, he is no 'Holier than thou' white hero...but, then that's what makes watching this grey-shaded guy so interesting...as Divya had said - his action every day is the wildcard... changes a track every possible way!😃

Ayooo, this was a long composition...hope I didn't bore anyone to death...just my views..not meant to offend anyone...😳

Periyamma hope your eyes get better by the day 🤗


Oh yes, but my prime complaint was the scene where Jodha recoiled her hand suddenly - I felt it sapped the flavour out of a scene that could have been better! 😕

High time CVs are realistic in this issue - leads have been married close to a year now... this recoiling hand etc is not realistic at all!


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Originally posted by: lashy

Aunty...🤗

Lots of valid points raised...but, I have seen everything in a different light to yours aunty - wonder if it'd satisfy you!😛

My poor Jalal...there is not a single episode that goes by where his actions are not dissected and watched with a critical eye - especially in the past three months...😭

I feel that we expect him to be Lord Krishna to Jodha, Lord Ram to Ruqaiyya, Shakuni mama to Shareef/Adham, Chandragupta Maurya in the DEK and Ashoka on the battlefield...

But, he is 22 year old Jalal...and I love him for it!

DEK

Aunty ...there have been many scenes lately where they don't show the announcements and all...so, its possibly a given an announcement was made before she stepped in.

He is annoyed about her interruption - but, when the affair came to be known - it wasn't something totally insignificant since it goes against the traditions of the Mughal Sultanat, doesn't it?😕 Yes, Jalal will bring a change to that henceforth...but as of now, it was still wrong doing!

If nothing else, a blooper - but, then every serial is riddled with something of this sort.. 😆

HAREM COURT

That was only a Harem court...so only the women alone...I felt that him shouting at them NOT to interrupt wasn't really that out-of-place...and why aunty are you so harsh on the lad for shouting back at Ruq when she's been bursting his eardrums for the past four months? 😆 The guy had barely returned from one office to step into another and voila more problems...bass the CEO lost his cool...

On a more serious note - obviously, he's been annoyed with the harem issues lately spilling on to his political affairs et al - (Remember, how he mutters that the harem war was worse than any other war he's seen😆)! Surely, he was far more dignified in shutting them up than the women who were WWFing barely a day ago in the harem😆

Also, the 'unfairness' of the harem kaand and issues coming to light lately have given him a bad reality check, me thinks

JALAL-RUQ

Before saying that we'd never wish a friend like Jalal in our life... wouldn't we rather never have a friend like Ruqaiyya first?

Everyone's saddened that he gave up on Ruqaiyya soon...but, where is it soon? Every time he asks his friend the question 'Do you want me, do you feel jealous when I spend time with other ladies...and what am I to you?'

Her answer in various (actions, gestures, words) have been 'You are the Emperor and I am your chief consort...You are a man of power and position and I'm proud to be associated with that power and position!'

Which best friend really gives an answer like that?^^^

Ruqaiyya is loyal to the Mughal Sultanat and obsessed with the power she holds in it - Jalal is a means (albeit her favourite means) of ensuring her Sultanat and her position in said Sultanat is safe!

He is supposed to sit down and have a talk with her? Why? Did she sit down and have a talk with him when he lost his father? Did she sit down and have a chat with him when he was committing blunder after blunder during the Ben track? He was blinded by ego, right? What about her - she could have thought of it rationally! She is supposed to be his advisor right? Her egging him to marry Benazir during that track was in far poorer light than anything Jalal's done to her lately! After that, Jalal granted her a gift in the DEK for getting rid of Benazir - did she apologize to him for having committed mistakes? No! Instead, she tells Jodha choose anything BUT Jalal...like REALLY?

HIS EGGING

And as for the egging - the Jo vs Ruqs primarily started during the BEK elections, right? He teased/warned both Ruqaiyya (with a smile) about Hunar ki khaan and Jodha with a frown about Ruq's intelligence!

Even then, after he teased Ruq about the chess game - and saw her reactions - he disappointedly advices her not to be so driven to delight about the loss of Jodha rather than the victory of her friend! In that way, he's been egging Jodha too - to confess her feelings and the jalan bit!

This 'teasing' habit of his might be a drawback, an annoying characteristic of his - whatever - but, its nothing new! Initial episodes when the twosome were more cordial the egging ended with pleasurable scenes. (I like it when you get angry and I like to manaa you) Lately, when he's realizing Ruqaiyya's reality, the ending is not so pleasurable!

Jalal is good to those who are good to him...vindictive towards those when he thinks/learns of those who are not so good (when he realizes the truth that is)!

For all of her initial shortcomings, he forgave Jodha because apart from being attracted to her, he knew she was a woman of integrity - one who didn't crave power/position/materialistic comforts!

At the same time, despite all she's done for him lately - neither has he forgotten the narnaal issue, nor has he forgotten the dhakka incident!

For all of her shortcomings, he kept forgiving Ruqaiyya up until the recent Harem meeting. He trusted her to be truthful to him if nothing else! He trusted her allegiance to the Sultanat and thought she was 'just' in Sultanat affairs if nothing else (like how she gave the land back to Saleema in the DEK scene)

Now; despite all of their history together, he's never going to forgive Ruqaiyya for having back-stabbed his trust in this manner!

He's put up with her audha rants, with her constant 'tell me you don't love Jodha Begum' with her 'I me and myself' importance because he knew it was HER!

However, with the recent harem issues coming to light (Begums complaining about how they're being mistreated), him watching how she was pulling Jodha along etc he was beginning to get disillusioned! This moorthi plot only made it worse!

JALAL IN JO VS RUQ

And I also wouldn't say that Jalal's cerebral cog-wheels ONLY work in Jodha's case and not in Ruq's (it would seem that way cos this entire serial has been outlined with tracks that show every other person in the Sultanat plotting against Jodha!)

His brain had stopped working during the Tasneem track (a Ruqs affair) due to depression and during Benazir track (A Jodha affair) due to ego! Also, during Ruq's MC kaand he had taken it upon himself to do the investigation and solved it too - till MA outwitted him at the last minute!

As long as he is clever enough

and treats women with dignity - especially in public, I have no qualms about the rest of his portrayal! 😆

As for why he's so fond of Jodha - well, its a given...Heer Kunwari was Akbar's beloved...he spoilt her, adored her, had a separate palace built for her...then what's wrong if this Jalal does the same? At least, we see HK is a strong woman, intelligent and beautiful...at least here Ruqs is not very desirable as a companion...

There have been kings who've fallen for beloved queen no.5 or no.6 when queen no2, queen no3 or queen no4 did nothing really wrong!

Yes, he is no 'Holier than thou' white hero...but, then that's what makes watching this grey-shaded guy so interesting...as Divya had said - his action every day is the wildcard... changes a track every possible way!😃

Ayooo, this was a long composition...hope I didn't bore anyone to death...just my views..not meant to offend anyone...😳

Periyamma hope your eyes get better by the day 🤗


Oh yes, but my prime complaint was the scene where Jodha recoiled her hand suddenly - I felt it sapped the flavour out of a scene that could have been better! 😕

High time CVs are realistic in this issue - leads have been married close to a year now... this recoiling hand etc is not realistic at all!


wow...
loved this post.
brilliantly written lashy.👍🏼..

covered everything from beginning to end.
thank you.😊.

(p.s. i didn't mind that hand recoiling scene. ok. i did. a little😆. wish she jumped and hugged him. but still.
the gesture suited jodha's current frame of mind. she touched him willingly when she was not sure of her own feelings. he pinned her to walls too.
but now that both are realizing their feelings towards each other slowly subtle there is bound to be moments of shyness, fear of unknown and awkwardness.
so yeah.. jodha and jalal. take your time. (not too much time again).
it is indeed sweet to watch this subtlety)




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