Mughals - JA(REAL) is not Fiction-Pt4 - Author/TM's note on Pg1 and 91 - Page 44

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Talking about real history, my thoughts are totally as yours...😳.😳.

I am dying😳 to know the ORIGINAL history..!! Myself..!. Did Jalal's wife drank/ate poison ?

My state is similar to you...Its clear from your words and its clear in my reply also..😳


Conclusion::

After all, we are just digging history, and can't access every resource. Our badluck - got the book, still could not get the point totally. Despite doing every possible attempt, could not read entire account properly, but it clearly points to a MAJOR involvement of his Hindu Sultana/Begum, and it makes me wonder did she actually drank/ate poison. Kuch to hai. !.?



Relation of Hakim-Jalal:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100493899
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100527912

Originally posted by: history_geek

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Benazir Track - Final Update - Part-2-

Did JODHA's actually drank / ate poison..?
Read 😳 on.
"Hakim's Mom was involved in this conspiracy"

Hi Adi,

Making this answer as an update.

Was busy trying to get more information on Benazir track. But, could not get much, so posting whatever i have, TILL NOW. Actually, that book is not readable. It's badly tattered. The person, who translated that Persian source, could tell me few lines in between,😕 from this book. I am writing, what he told, in sequencial order.(guess the rest yourself. No option)


Till now, we know Vishkanya Track was historically true. Read part-1 for details. Link given below.

Link for Benazir track Part-1: ( READ THIS FIRST, then proceed..!.. )
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/99995240

Already we had hinted that Hakim's mom "MAY" enter into picture.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100051553


Continue further after reading above links:

Sending Vishkanya was a joint conspiracy of Mahchuchak Begum(Hakim's mother) and Abul Maali(Akbar's brother in law).
Yes, the vishkanya was sent by Abul Maali, in reality also, from Kabul, planned with Hakim's mom. (don't know was/when she exposed ..!..)

That book further maintained, Akbar was moved after this event. (could not read entire episode. Reason-book was not readable.!.
Still, i feel why was he moved after this incident..?..😕. Think.)


Regarding Vishkanya track the author mentioned -> Abul Fazl has not mentioned this incident...!

One more thing, that book mentioned one Kamal Khan. And, in references said him to be a Subedar of Punjab. (In episode Benazir talked of one Kamal Khan. Don't know if here also we have same Kamal Khan..)


Inference:
I feel this clears ONE confusion regarding timeline of the events. Since, this conspiracy was hatched along with Mahchuchak Begum, and she died in April 1564, obviously this means, that the incident, MATCHES with timeline of the show.

Note in reality also, Hakim's mother plotted against Akbar. See her ENTIRE conspiracy and Hakim's history here.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98657498


Attack 2: This MAY BE, another future track-->
(this has been read by one forum friend also. Mentioning this event for a specific purpose here.)

Further, the "next" episode about an attack, in that book after Vishkanya was -->> "Another incident, which involved Akbar and his Hindu Sultana was, when Akbar was attacked in Agra'a Palace only, by a person who acted to be a soldier. And, during some 'jashn' attacked Akbar, but missed. And, ate poison and died. So, the person was not identified, but he was suspected to be a Rajput who opposed Akbar's marriage with MUZ. Bhagwandas assured Akbar, Rajputs won't attack from back, and so if it's proved that it was any Rajput behind this,then he will fight against them. Akbar believed him, but investigated further. End-result was missing from that source. Let's see, if this comes on show.

@blue above -- What you feel by another episode involving Akbar and his Hindu Sultana, and WHY here Bhagwandas interfered..?Due to his sister?..!!...

Does, "" Another incident, which involved Akbar and his Hindu Sultana"" means that in Vishkanya episode also Harka/MUZ was involved..?? I could NOT read it, since book was not readable..!..


Attack 3:
1 more attack on Akbar in Agra Fort itself is mentioned, after above attack. 😕.🥱, could not read it. Language was not clear.



@ Adi..

Talking about real history, my thoughts are totally as yours...😳.😳.

I am dying😳 to know the ORIGINAL history..!! Myself..!. Did Jalal's wife drank/ate poison ?

My state is similar to you...Its clear from your words and its clear in my reply also..😳


Conclusion::

After all, we are just digging history, and can't access every resource. Our badluck - got the book, still could not get the point totally. Despite doing every possible attempt, could not read entire account properly, but it clearly points to a MAJOR involvement of his Hindu Sultana/Begum, and it makes me wonder did she actually drank/ate poison. Kuch to hai. !.?



Relation of Hakim-Jalal:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100493899
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100527912

Abhay

Originally posted by: adianasr

Definitely Abhay kuch toh hai. But would he let her drink it - he still has not disbelieved her accusation - and if in front of everyone she says she will drink it to prove KT as VK, he would defifinitely give her words weight - that she who is so conscious of her Samman would not take a chance of being made a public fool - And keeping this about her in mind he would stop her from drinking it and make Zakira do the deed once more but this time more thoroughly.

Also would he put her life in danger, as even a minuscule chance of her being right would result in her death and as of now he does not have an antidote.

Keeping all these in mind and as there is no clear documentation of Jodha taking the 'bullet' for Akbar (which is too big to go undocumented), I feel that she will make the attempt but he may stop her from completing it.

And that is why I said that the precap may not happen in toto. Buts lets see what the makers have in store for us!!!

Adi,

I agree with all. But, would add something more, for the points in bold. As, i said, i could not read the full account, i would say that, there MAY BE some documentation. Also, possible he may stop her. Lets see. (just a thought)

BTW, another "bouncer" for me, found "slightly different" version of MA's death few days back, in royal chronicles only. And, more than 1 chroniclers have recorded that version. They "ALL" are different from Abul Fazl's account of Akbarnama. Plz Wait, i will post soon. You also must have come across this, perhaps. This is just to give an example, there are many chronicles which are not famous and did not find their way to fame. Abul Fazl was the main chronicler, so famous, though i found better documentation about Akbar at other places. 😊

Originally posted by: adianasr

As for the second attack - do you have the timeline - becoz if it is 1566-67 then it could be the Sisodiya Rajputs or their supporters - may not be the Mewar rajputs but if you remember there were others who were supporting MP and who wanted to attack Akbar in Amer. The attack may have been in the know of the Sisodiyas - as in the war against Chittor Bhagwan Das was present with Akbar.

Adi,
I will try to find the timeline. The words were not clear. But, i feel, it could NOT be Sisodiyas. And, that was just an accusation only. May be some nobles accused them. I'll try finding, this for sure. Or, lets see in show. 😊

Abhay, all in the forum were laughing at the Ben - Vishkanya track. Then you informed us about a Vishkanya being sent to kill Akbar who was caught at the last minute. This info was very interesting and we could no longer ignore the presence of Vishkanya in history and the serial. But this new added info of Abu mali-HM's mother conspiracy and Akbar being moved by the incident, only adds up to the excitement. I have a feeling that Ekta is purposely dragging this track. Not because of Meghana or TRPs but maybe because it is one of the most important points of Akbar-MUZ relationship. (I am saying this based on the words in bold) As seen in the serial, both of them have started sensing their feelings during this track only.

Great post Abhay... so maybe MUZ didn't drink the poison right?

Great one Abhay 👍🏼

thank u thank u Abhay !!! so CVs r following the timeline too ! praiseworthy ! like others, I'm also eager to know did Jodha drink the posion to save Jalal's life..I understand the book is not readable...phi bhi do try !! we can actually take sighs of relief !😳