Analysis and Observations - my take

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Warning: all views are my own (some inspired) but if you love the makers of the serials avoid reading this. Also since I recount a lot of recent happenings...if it affects you...do not proceed...Rivs

Hello people,

I have been bashing the creatives for the last month or so but today after thinking through a lot of the recent episodes I am going to present my views in a more concise manner. BTW the moral of my story is still the fact that the creatives are a bunch of fools who have ruined something that could have been handled in a very good manner....so here goes...

Clues we sorta missed:

1. Last week, in one of the episodes where Pia confesses to Bani that she knows that her child is conceived with none other that JW himself. At this point, she made a very profound declaration - he will never accept my child, what shall I do.

Then again in another episode, she declares that she will make sure JW marries her and gives her child legitimate status.

Somehow to me, though not at a very conscious level were indicative of her upcoming role and to an extent sowed the seeds of doubt that her amnesia could be fake.

Inference: In not so many words, Pia had declared her intentions.

2. Also in the same episode, Tarun declares his love for Bani. I have to šŸ‘ for PS for the amazing performance in this episode. Despite my dislike for a possible TB marriage, yesterday's episode convinced me that if there is someone who can support Bani right now (I am not including Munna here yet) it is this man. As much publicized, I felt his love is true. Also, what I first considered a result of his so called "disease", now seems like a genuine concern for Bani's welfare to me. For crying out loud, he is the only guy who stood up to JW on his face.

I personally dont want Pushkar as the support person based on the episode where he basically makes Pia go to Bani to get answers about who the father is. If he were a true friend, he would have accepted the child. At the very least, he would not have put Bani in a situation where she has to cook something up or let Pia know that her own husband is the father of her sister's child. Knowing Bani, he should know that Bani is not going to let Pia know that she had indeed raped JW and not the other way around.

Inference: Tarun makes a better support system for Bani, not only because he loves her, but because he will be able to fight anyone for her sake.

Descrepencies/ Bloopers:

1. Last night, in US the episode shown was the one where Bani first finds out about Jannat Apts (JA). In this episode, she is deliberately being pushed towards this place.

At the same time, Karuna fights with Jigs about the promise Jigs made to Pia. Basically Jigs told Pia that she will help Pia marry JW. So at this point, it is evident they were not hand in gloves.

Inference: Something happened between this scene and Karuna's appearance at JA to convert her into the "bad" one.

Analysis of JB:

1. Bani's Perspective: Bani reacted as anyone would. The man who she loved, who professed his love to her over and over and over again, promised to be by her side through all good and bad, who she had caught red-handed at the incriminating place in a burkha, declared her mentally unstable. Not in private, not amongst family, but infront of the world. To the extent of even accepting that her "disease" could have made her kill someone.

The direct result of this was her being sentenced to a Mental Asylum (MA) for the next 5 years, without being given a chance to prove her mental capacities or a professional opinion.

And the next thing we know, the trauma induces premature labor and we witness the birth of JB kids, the living proof of their love. But in what conditions? In a rat infested, unhygenic jail cell. The children of India's premier business magnet were born in a jail cell....I dont know what I feel about this.

To make things worse, her children were taken away from her and that too by none other than her beloved husband.

Inference: If she decides to take a revenge on him, I will not bash her. Given what she has seen, her actions will be validated.

2. Jai's Perspective: This man has time and again seen the consequences of his wife's penchant for Bondgiri. He has also witnessed her being used and abused by her darling sister Pia and the other GFNs. So this time, he warned her time and again when she brought Pia home and also when she started investigating JA raaz.

This man has also been on the receiving end of Bani's love for Banigiri and following pravachans made by below from beyond. Her claim for divorce and alimony broke him and made him realize his love for her. Her love for her sisters and his family, showed him the similarities between them two. Her comatose state, made him turn into a heartless human, only to make sure she lives on. He has suffered at her hands and yet loved her unconditionally. The main reason because he trusts her love for him and respects it.

Another this man has witnessed and experienced is being blackmailed by Pia. And this is something I fail to understand. When he was such a good learner on the previous two counts, why did he fail here? Why did he fall pray to Pia's blackmailing once again? Why has Pia and likes of Jigs been so successful in making a putty out of this man who was once the most feared person in his household?

Today we saw a broken man, a man who knows he had wronged his wife and his children. A man feeling so helpless that he was on his knees infront of the woman who has raped him.

(I do not want to go into the discussion of how he was wronged by the other GFN's and yet he supported them. Its just too painful)

Inference: A once strong man, fell in love. And I mean FELL in love. Love made him weak and vulnerable.

Analysis of the events of the last few days:

So a number of us has guessed that Bani would be framed for Sahil's murder. We also have concluded that for some unknown reasons, the power that be, want to make Pia a very prominent part of the serial and at the cost of JB.

And we were right. Bani was arrested. What surprised us was that Jai gave evidence against her. And to make things worse, we were led to believe that he did not do anything to save Bani from going to the MA. Instant death of JW for a lot of us (character assasination at its best, if I may add).

The next thing we witness is Bani's plight. Her reaction to the biggest betrayal of her yound life. This made a lot of us weep blood. The after math of this being the death of the nice Bani who was made a hardcore business man like JW melt. Next thing we will be witnessing is the changed and avenging Bani. I am not sure how I would like it, but will just go with the flow for the time being.

We also get to witness the one thing we were looking forward to for the last 10 months. Albeit, in a situation that made us cringe. The arrival of the living form of JB's love, was brought into the world in the most despicable of the conditions. And to make things worse, they were immediately snatched away from their mother. Need I say what this broke?

By this time, all of us were drawing daggers at JW, at the same time wishing and hoping and praying that there be a very good reason for this behavior. And what are we made witnesses too?

The Kansa in this Krishna Janam is none other that one of the masi's and the two buas. The trio together hatched the plan to send Bani to the loony bin and break JW in the worst possible manner. And the reason:

    Pia wanted the name and fame of being Mrs. Jai Walia. Jigs wanted the money of Jai Walia.
  • Karuna wanted to avenge the women who unknowingly and without intention was the cause of her daughter's heart break by a man who was medically proven to be a sufferer of OCD.

JW was blackmailed by his rapist and wife's sister to prove his wife mad in order to save her from a possible death sentence. The evidence being a video tape of the murdered incriminating Bani along with some other flimsy circumstancial evidence.

And our hero complies. He turns into the worst husband possible and to make matters worst (read to make us sympathetic to him) we see him begging his rapist to not torture his wife and children more.

The latest bomb dropped on us is the possibility of a JP marriage, which I am confident, will be last blow for Bani, however she will not be aware of the fact that the marriage never really happened.

And Tada…the leap is here…

Inference: JB are separated. B hates J, J is guilty. P is still going to torture J. TRPS rose. The pathetic means achieved the desired end of high TRPs, JB sepreation, and Pia prominence. Bravo creatives and the power that be for a job well done…

Could this have be done any differently:

The answer is yes. The least that would have happened is not show JW as a wimp. I mean the thought of a 40 year old, business tycoon, on his knees, begging to a 20 something year old for the wellbeing of his family is very hard to digest. Given that once upon a time, he had made the life of this very same woman a living hell.

They could have shown him working in the background to save his wife, while appeasing the blackmailer in the foreground. Maybe, he was being watched, but he could have used someone trust worthy but an outsider like Pushy. I don't know…anyone who could have not had a problem being of help to JB.

Jai could have told Bani when she caught him at JA??? Maybe he was bugged…but seriously do you think they are smart enough to come up with microphones on JW??? No…no wonder they did not think of the simple solution either…

Future Predictions:

Based on the story so far….and the addiction of those who can make a difference…here is what I would expect (some of you have already mentioned this in countless points…so thanks to all)

1. Tarun will be back on Monday/ Tuesday and will go meet Jai. Expect a confrontation here…again Jai will be shown to be a RB…to keep pretenses

2. Tarun will bring the news of JP marriage to Bani...which will break her down completely…maybe this will be the first step to TB angle

3. JP marriage will be scheduled for Tuesday/Wednesday

4. Rano/ Pushy will take the children (atleast one of them) to Bani for a visit.

5. This is where the news of Bani's death will come in with the child too…

6. Thursday we will find out JP never married, but Jai kept all the three witches around to torture them

7. And at the same time to give the third child (frog) a name as per Bani's wish

8. Bani will be aiming her revenge on JW and misunderstandings galore…Jai will assume her married to Tarun and Bani will assume him married to Pia

9. And I think Pia rani will actually add fuel to the fire by making her believe this

10. Oh yes Sahil will be back by this time

My personal favorite will be if JW helps her escape and she comes back once Jai has proven that Bani is innocent/ Sahil is alive. The two will then take their revenge together.

But knowing the fact that the people who are writing are a bunch of juvenile delinquents (thanks Bavie) who probably never had any formal education and the people who approve (I mean the bosses or people who have the power to curb this kind of nonsense) their writing seem to have gone through very traumatic childhoods (maybe something similar to whats being dished in the serials made by them), my expectations are pretty low...

That's is friends….I wrote a lot…I would love to hear your views…

Rivs

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Posted: 18 years ago
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i don't need to add.. i loved reading that.. and agree from beginning to end..

and like u mentioned.. i'd luv to see jai helping bani out of d jail and supporting her on d side.. buttt that ain't possible.. so i'll be waitin fo d misunderstandings to continue

and bani to come bac wit a bang.. and jai in his RB mode... i just saw d new promo and bani wit her big red tikka.. haila she doesn't look like d mahaan..HAIL DIXIT.. jasoos bani anymore.. nope nope which is a good thing 😃 its a plus on my list.. i hated her for that..

as fo jai - if he knows bani's dead.. or wateva.. he won't give a ----- about pia or anyone else.. so their "blackmailing" won't effect him one bit..

and i believe rano'll help raise d twins.. along wit her baby varun..when bani makes a come bac after 5 yrs.. i'd luv to see rano helpin her out.. šŸ˜• šŸ˜• and rano suppporting jai - would be nice to see..
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Wow Rivs--awesome post--

dont know where to start--so far the juveniles have only given us some
juvenile horrorness--they seem only to travel the gross and disgusting
road for their rpist main charcter now--I want Bani declared dead. I like
the idea of her having one child with her. Maybe Rano can do the
honors--I was thinking that since Tarun took the video camera for repair
don't you think they could have shown a scene where there is a high
possibility for him to have some kind of a tape showing that repto and
Sahil were playing around with his pseudo confession...the unedited
version
And as for the final assasination of JB/JW for repto that is totally only
motivated by the inference of you know where this theory is going--and
it proved true--bc
1-Jigs used repto as a pawn to separate JB
2-Jigs hates the sisters wants them out
3-Jigs character as written would never except that trash at the WM, let
alone have her be malkin of WM...never...so they changed this infavor of
repto
4-as for repto frog being the waaris--well Jigs would never allow that, as
per jigs character--I mean what is a two bit wh8re for a woman like
Jigs--Jigs can handle her--they in a way also butchered Jigs character for
repto
5-These juveniles are not that bright or intelligent in writing of this serial
what they have shown is that yes they do lurk around this forum and get
ideas and turn our most fondest wishes into the most grossest,
disgusting scenario possible--
6-Good point regarding Push--Yaar--have not been watching episodes
so am not really updated on the stuff...why they did that to Push--they
destroyed that friendship--
7-Tarun had been on my good wish for Bani --as a friend--he won't let
anything happen to her--when he sees her, he's going to go into an
avenging mode--
8-JP wedding--Repto is going to be dressed in her bridal saree with JW
beside her and she will go the Bani to seek her Di's blessings--(only
saying this is bc of the juv.delin. they will think of another disgusting and
gross scenario to be presented before Bani-
9-Speechless as to show JW in this state being fooled and blackmailed by
his rpist--only juveniles can do this-
10-Why did JW take the kids back to WM? Couldn't he have taken them
someother place, given them to someone else to take care of them for
awhile--doesn't he have any money--
11-these juveniles are having a good laugh at us-
12-Yes , they could have done things differently here--but they chose
the most disgusting path....
Edited by aperture - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Rivs, one of the best posts in recent times that I have read in the Forum. šŸ‘

Made me so proud to go through it.

You have considered all the points so beautifully and written it over here.

Leaving JNB aside, I want to write something. That why are sisters, from both sides, always made a witch, with very few exceptions? A few days back, I read a comment from one of the members that he/ she was happy that he/ she had no sister. This was when I realised how negatively all these serials and tracks are affecting us. Of course, I know we have the freedom to choose hat we want to watch and the like.

Karuna's attitude really surprised me though I knew from a long time ago, that she would be included into the Vamp Hall soon. Tarun developed feelings for Bani not vice versa. And Bani had never entertained even a single thought against Tarun. In fact, she was instrumental in getting Tarun agree to marry Laksmi. It would have been better if Tarun had made a false promise to her that he would give Laksmi everything that a husband could offer his wife, and then let Laksmi be so. Of course, the innocent Laksmi (?????????????) would suffer. But its the same as making an innocent Bani suffer. 😔

Abhilasha was the best thing that hapoepned to Jigs and it should have remained that way. She should have been administered with more deadly doses of the sleeping medicines or whatever, so that she could finally sleep into the longest sleep of her worthless life. 😔

Pia. For her, the best thing would have been if she had been sent to the Mental Asylum when the Dr. declared that she was suffering from partial memory loss. The scampering of mouses over her would have reveale the truth and who knows, we might even have seen her frog taking birth. 😔

All these three women are Mothers in one form or the other, but they let down another Mother so severely.
God wouldnt ever forgive them, but the Kreatives will. Thats why in soaps we always have the innocent, lovely people suffering and the wicked ones winning and living peacefully.

Contrary to what people say, I am a JnB supporter, so I would have loved to wacth the two of them fighting this out after 5 years or so. But I know that will not happen, cos otherwise the Kreatives will have to search for a new story. 🤢 šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜†

Thanks once again for the brilliant post. šŸ‘
Edited by sangitadas - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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BTW, one more point I wnted to add:

Why did the JDs (thanks Bavie) had to make both JnB literally FALL from grace in their love for each other?

How could they make JW do this? Immediate gratification in the form of TRPs is the answer I know, but they hsould check the TRP charts whenever the Reptile has been given prominence.

They have killed both JnB for Repto's resurrection.

Yesterday was indeed FRIDAY THE 13th. 🤢
Edited by sangitadas - 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: nyzbabigyal

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thanks navs....

i don't need to add.. i loved reading that.. and agree from beginning to end..
šŸ˜›
and like u mentioned.. i'd luv to see jai helping bani out of d jail and supporting her on d side.. buttt that ain't possible.. so i'll be waitin fo d misunderstandings to continue
not going to happen right...
and bani to come bac wit a bang.. and jai in his RB mode... i just saw d new promo and bani wit her big red tikka.. haila she doesn't look like d mahaan..HAIL DIXIT.. jasoos bani anymore.. nope nope which is a good thing 😃 its a plus on my list.. i hated her for that..
i hope they dont make her a caricature of the revenging woman...
as fo jai - if he knows bani's dead.. or wateva.. he won't give a ----- about pia or anyone else.. so their "blackmailing" won't effect him one bit..
thats why i want Bani's fake death
and i believe rano'll help raise d twins.. along wit her baby varun..when bani makes a come bac after 5 yrs.. i'd luv to see rano helpin her out.. šŸ˜• šŸ˜• and rano suppporting jai - would be nice to see..

But rano will have her own set of issues...what with Sahil coming back...
Rivs
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: aperture

šŸ‘

Wow Rivs--awesome post--
Thanks Bavie...
dont know where to start--so far the juveniles have only given us some
juvenile horrorness--they seem only to travel the gross and disgusting
road for their rpist main charcter now--I want Bani declared dead. I like
the idea of her having one child with her. Maybe Rano can do the
honors--I was thinking that since Tarun took the video camera for repair
don't you think they could have shown a scene where there is a high
possibility for him to have some kind of a tape showing that repto and
Sahil were playing around with his pseudo confession...the unedited
version

That would be awesome Bavie...but since the leap is inevitable...this wont work out..maybe he had amnesia and remembers of the unedited version after the leap...
And as for the final assasination of JB/JW for repto that is totally only
motivated by the inference of you know where this theory is going--and
it proved true--bc
1-Jigs used repto as a pawn to separate JB
2-Jigs hates the sisters wants them out
3-Jigs character as written would never except that trash at the WM, let
alone have her be malkin of WM...never...so they changed this infavor of
repto
4-as for repto frog being the waaris--well Jigs would never allow that, as
per jigs character--I mean what is a two bit wh8re for a woman like
Jigs--Jigs can handle her--they in a way also butchered Jigs character for
repto
5-These juveniles are not that bright or intelligent in writing of this serial
what they have shown is that yes they do lurk around this forum and get
ideas and turn our most fondest wishes into the most grossest,
disgusting scenario possible--
6-Good point regarding Push--Yaar--have not been watching episodes
so am not really updated on the stuff...why they did that to Push--they
destroyed that friendship--
7-Tarun had been on my good wish for Bani --as a friend--he won't let
anything happen to her--when he sees her, he's going to go into an
avenging mode--
8-JP wedding--Repto is going to be dressed in her bridal saree with JW
beside her and she will go the Bani to seek her Di's blessings--(only
saying this is bc of the juv.delin. they will think of another disgusting and
gross scenario to be presented before Bani-
9-Speechless as to show JW in this state being fooled and blackmailed by
his rpist--only juveniles can do this-
10-Why did JW take the kids back to WM? Couldn't he have taken them
someother place, given them to someone else to take care of them for
awhile--doesn't he have any money--
11-these juveniles are having a good laugh at us-
12-Yes , they could have done things differently here--but they chose
the most disgusting path....

nice points bavie...loved them all...and agree with them too...Rivs

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Rivya, brilliant post dear and I agree with every bit of it...

I felt for both JB, I am a despo but yst Jai let me down bit time...This is the worst character assassination...it's disgusting and his Jaigiri is not valid to me though I feel sorry for him...

Go Bani, make Pia and the other witches suffer...for once i am expecting leap..i really hope that there would be sparks. 😳 ...and I would love the creatives if for once they would do assassination of Pia and the two witchs in the sense they can kill them...I would be willing to forgive creatives for whatever they did to my favorite character Jai and Bani.

I am not able to express how much disappointed I was with Jai yst...felt like slapping him for begging in front of that thing..chii

Cheers,
Meena
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Hey Rivya,
Thumbs up all the way brillant post.I throughly enjoyed reading it.I agree with all you have said.I am a JB supporter,don't see them fighting the three witches together though.Creatives have to completely destroy what little dignity JB character's have left.
The problem is if they show JB fighting together for justice the show will be done in a couple of weeks.Ekta mai ahs to touture the viewers some more by showing JB seperation.Hang in there............Thanks for the lovely post.
Beena

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