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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

Nahiii... I don't want to have my hopes up to have them crashed again...
even the latest spoiler that confirms that Ben ends this week says that Jalal realizes his follies after Benazir and Jodha's worth in his life..
in fact, that he nearly confesses his feelings for Jodha after all this!


He has already confessed. Hasn't he?šŸ¤¢šŸ˜­šŸ˜•
🤢
As though enough lallu-fication and ullu-fication of jallu has not been done already.😭
How come jo never realises his worth and importance after he saves her honour and life 3/4 times and never realizes her past follies.😲
Ek hero-heroine formula doesn't spare even the great emperors.

Edited by Sandhya.A - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


He has already confessed. Hasn't he?šŸ¤¢šŸ˜­šŸ˜•
🤢
As though enough lallu-fication and ullu-fication of jallu has not been done already.😭
How come jo never realises his worth and importance after he saves her honour and life 3/4 times and never realizes her past follies.😲
Ek hero-heroine formula doesn't spare even the great emperors.

She will realize Sandhya...she already has said she'll risk her life to save him ...she's using text book dialogues...but her heart's totally into it...don't worry...
I quite liked Jalal's stance yesterday I still haven't gotten over his semi-annoyed looks... šŸ˜†

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

She will realize Sandhya...she already has said she'll risk her life to save him ...she's using text book dialogues...but her heart's totally into it...don't worry...
I quite liked Jalal's stance yesterday I still haven't gotten over his semi-annoyed looks... šŸ˜†

Me too whatever crap we are served in the name of the story we always have rajat jalal as compensation. 😃

But my heart sunk seeing jo in bhaashanbaazi mode again. But thankfully jalal was not the victim.šŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Me too whatever crap we are served in the name of the story we always have rajat jalal as compensation. 😃

But my heart sunk seeing jo in bhaashanbaazi mode again. But thankfully jalal was not the victim.šŸ˜†

It can't be helped Sandhya...most if not all serial heroines are 'dramatic' since that's what our aunties love to watch..they like those heavy dialogues... its an offset from theatre/drama!

why, even in movies the trend continues to a large extent (though many cases its the hero who does that there)..yes, some different movies are coming lately..but, movies aimed at the 'masses' still have those heavy dialogues (or at least punch lines if not)...and what can be more 'mass-driven' than our dailies! šŸ˜›

like they say its inherent!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

It can't be helped Sandhya...most if not all serial heroines are 'dramatic' since that's what our aunties love to watch..they like those heavy dialogues... its an offset from theatre/drama!

why, even in movies the trend continues to a large extent (though many cases its the hero who does that there)..yes, some different movies are coming lately..but, movies aimed at the 'masses' still have those heavy dialogues (or at least punch lines if not)...and what can be more 'mass-driven' than our dailies! šŸ˜›

like they say its inherent!

Yes lashy
What you say is the unfortunate truth.
But these front bench appealing tactics hardly make a movie/show classic. They only dilute the quality.
Ekta is not an art lover for sure but this particular show had all the ingredients to succeed even without those tactics without which it would have been more appealing. Anyway ultimately money matters have the final say.šŸ˜•

Thankfully jalal is spared from these stuffs.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
No, no, Sandhya dear, you must not scold me so !šŸ˜‰ You have to enjoy that scene for the sheer theatrics, not parse Jodha's assertions in the standard 9 column format!

I agree completely about the way Rajat looked during the freezing in the cold scene. I wrote then that he looked like a matinee idol with whom the camera had fallen in love.

As for the anachronism about Meera, while it need not be taken as if she had passed on, it was clearly out of place. In this context, you would be interested in what I had written on Lashy's A set of caricatures thread, when she had Jodha invoking Meera along with a bunch of assorted deities.

A minor correction to Jodha's opening invocation list. She would not have included Meera.

Meera was a contemporary of hers, and was of course not yet the revered Sant Meera she later became. There is a story that Akbar met her at a temple and gifted her his pearl necklace, which she at once used to adorn her Muralidhar.

But this incident was used as one of the accusations against her in her trial for treason, that she accepted a gift from a parapurush who was, moreover, an enemy. In the end, she was sentenced to death by poison, but of course it had no effect on her. She then walked to the Krishna temple and became antardhyana, ie she vanished, leaving behind only her ektara. That had been gifted to her by the Harijan (not a term used then, of course) saint Sant Ravidas.

Incidentally, Paridhi would make an excellent Meera. Hema Malini was very convincing in Gulzar's film Meera, which had music by Ravi Shankar, but Paridhi would do even better as she is a better actress than Hema. However, I am sure Meerbai is safe from Ekta , and not even she could infuse that tale with enough masala for 4-500 episodes.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


How come jodha talks about meera in past tense? Wasn't meerabai a contemporary of tulsidas tansen and akbar?

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Well, girls, as for me, I loved that whole scene. It was like watching Sarah Bernhardt in action, splendidly OTT and quite marvellous.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Yes lashy
What you say is the unfortunate truth.
But these front bench appealing tactics hardly make a movie/show classic. They only dilute the quality.
Ekta is not an art lover for sure but this particular show had all the ingredients to succeed even without those tactics without which it would have been more appealing. Anyway ultimately money matters have the final say.šŸ˜•

Thankfully jalal is spared from these stuffs.😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
Thank you!

Your @blue is spot on. Do see my latest, Cat and Mouse game with the ghrinit jantu!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: ClearBlueSky


Shaymla, You perfectly summed my view on today's episode. It was very well executed and I enjoyed every bit of it. I liked the twist in the opening scene, Jalal and Jodah's very telling long eye contact on the garden path, return of the great intelligence (everywhere), Jalal's interrogation act at the end of the DEK session, even Jodha's bhashanbajhi and determination during her interaction with Big Ben, and last but not least - Jalal's (not so) indirect 'in the know' revelation in the final scene. I think he is secretly thrilled with Jodha's undertaking.


Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, no, my dear Bobby (and all my dear young people eager to give me a shoulder to cry onšŸ˜‰), you underestimate me!

I do not like tel maalishes at night, though it is sweet of you to be so concerned about what you are convinced is an incipient depression. Plus I do not need one at all!

In fact, I thoroughly enjoyed the whole episode, and I thought the googly the CVs bowled us was a very clever one. See, they have spared us all the shrieking and shouting that a revelation that Jodha had bumped the KT off would inevitably call forth from Ruqaiya and Mahaam, plus an OTT trial scene. I actually preferred loveanime's and Komal's scenarios to the trial one, and I only offered that as a more likely one then theirs.

At least this was better than the lousy alternatives floating around, and they even managed to explain the absence of the boatman. And Jalal in the boat was like an illustration for weary detachment.

Next, I loved the scene and a half between Jalal and Jodha, the half being when he glowers up at her from the garden path. I was very pleased that he had made out at once that it was Jodha, and yet he did not say a word, either in public or even to her as an assertion, not a teasing question.
His face after she leaves the DEK once his catechism was finished, was a study in brooding introspection, and Rajat brought that off splendidly. He looked like a Van Dyke portrait ready to be framed. He is ruminating over what precisely made her do that, and probably telling himself that it could not be pure jealousy. I am sure he wondered as to whether Jodha was right in her accusation against the KT.

It remains to be seen how this is developed. In the precap, he seemed on the point of asking her WHY she had done it. Again, Rajat's face was as smooth as marble, unnaturally and, possibly, deceptively calm.

The hammy wife vs vamp scene between Jodha and the KT was a pure delight, so splendidly predictable, with Jodha pulling out all the Rajvanshi stops. I was a tad surprised, then pleased, that she did not let on the KT, in vintage Jodha style, that it was she who had deliberately avoided pincushioning her. Our Jodha Begum is on a learning track, it seems! If the KT had been told that, she would have very soon found a way to dispose of Jodha Begum, as being far too dangerous.

I would have forgiven Jodha all her follies, past, present and future, for that splendid addition to our lexicon of choice Jodhaisms, grhinit jantu! I was hysterical with laughter every time I rewound the recording and watched that bit once more. Oh, Lord, it has set me off again!

Don't be puzzled and dismayed by the above, Bobby, I really mean all of it. It was a fun episode and it was such a pleasure to see the KT looking so downmarket next to Jodha, and to be able to look forward to seeing Salima and Jodha traipsing around togged up in daasi's clothes. Jodha looked delightful in Moti's clothes in Amer,but I don't know about Salima. And by the time they are changed and ready to take up the chase. Benazir would be long out of sight!


Shyamala Aunty

PS: I never opened the champagne, Sandhya. Did I not say I would wait till 8:30 pm to do it? So nothing was wasted!





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