God - Adi and Sugni Jodi????? - Page 6

Originally posted by: Istila

Julie,

Telling a lie deliberately and hiding the truth to prevent ruining lives are not the same things. While I agree that Vikram should have done the honourable thing and told Sughni the truth, Vikram was not given enough time. He was totally overwhelmed and confused.

He was still adjusting to the initial shock of seeing Reva suddenly come back to life and dealing with her mental health & physical abuse. Vikram himself was not in his normal state of mind. He was going through the initial stages of shock, trauma and was in denial.

Sughni first pursued him to marry her before he had the chance to think about proposing to her officially. Deeply in love with Sughni, with his emotions running everywhere, he was rushed in the decision of marrying her, even though his intention was first to divorce Reva after her recovery and getting the whole family agreeing for them to wed. Gulabiya accelerated this issue being blinded with her cloud of suspicions.

Vikram tried to tell Sughni the whole truth, but she was not ready to listen. Both women, Reva & Sughni threatened to kill themselves. Vikram was caught between a rock and a hard place.

This follows a similar theme from the classic novel, Jane Eyre, when she gets to know the truth she feels hurt and leaves Rochester but returns to marry him when she finds out he becomes blind and injured (thanks to his mad wife who sets him and the whole house on fire).

Here's the video clip showing Vikram's own feelings when he was accused of lying from 3.08.2012 @ 3.00:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luOEITNNFhg[/YOUTUBE]

Originally posted by: merrydock

i think this is what they mean when they say God workes in mysterious ways. what is ordained happens, if sugni thinks she is in love with vickram may she is not really in love with him, but a shadow of Aditya that she was first in vickram.

i know i may not make sense but life does not make sense sometimes and you let things happen because they do, the end result will always be what it is ment to be.

if Aditya and Sugni were not ment to be then Aditya would not have fallen in love with her knowing that she loves his uncle. now isnt that ironic.

may be this is what makes Sugni and Aditya the same, why they both walk the same parth. both in a relationship with another as in Vikram and Amrith. but both thrown together due to sacrafice they both feel they are making.

and then comes the even biger sacrafice that is being made again by Aditya who is now in love with sugni but is sacraficing her becaues he thinks she will be happy with vikram whome she thinks she loves.

isnt that kind of twisted. Sugni loves Vikram, but is willing to sacrafice her love for him for his marriage. Aditya who thinks is in love with Amrith and sacrafices her to save his the uncles marriage by marrying the girl his uncle loves, but in turn actually finds out that he is truly in love with the same girl but now is willing to sacrafice that love because the girl concerned is in love with his uncle. and the uncle who is married wants to break of a realtionship with his wife. becauese he loves sugni, who he lies to, sets her against her mother. will do anything as well as killl his nephue to have her but who is really a selfish person concerned with only himself, his love, his pain, his need.

so it think Aditya and sugni are more alike. and are really ment to be as they mirror each other. and vickram is only a shadow that does not always stay true to form not like a image in the mirror that is exactly what it reflects.

Originally posted by: orianthi

Even with divorce, Sugni would be responsible for breaking a marriage. Regardless of how much he hates Reva, the fact of the matter is, He would be divorcing her to get with Sugni, therefore she would be the reason for the divorce and the catalyst for his decision. Sugni would not want to break someone's marriage.

😆 I agree with the muslim thing.

In addition I like Adini. They are so much alike and they both understand each other as a result of their sacrifices. I think they are nice couple. And the new Adi really is different from the old one. This Adi is more gentle and kind to sugni and he is giving her respect which is most important. I am not saying that TVS isn't but i mean Adini aren't bad or anything that they can't be a couple. If TVS can get with Sugni despite having a wife, why can't Adi get with Sugni despite being his uncle's young ex gf?

Originally posted by: avyarima

Yes! you have said it all👏. TVS is married!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. you have a great logic here why Sugni and TVS jodi is not acceptable by me. Isn't that enough????????????????

see, i dont mean he must stay married, all am saying is He is married!!!!!!!!!!!!!. he should be good enough to deal with his wife case (even divorce her, i dont care), before going for Sugni because, like it or not TVS made her his mistress without her knowledge( i dont care why).
even if he is married to a witch, A MARRIED MAN IS OUT OF BOUND FOR ME, BUT I DONT HAVE PROBLEM WITH A DIVORCEE.

@ TOPIC STARTER ----I agree that Amurita's character in the show, and the lies( to the family) makes it difficult for people to accept Adi-Sugni's jodi and i totally agree with every one on this only because Amurita was a very good friend of Sugni , so friend's lovers are out of bounds too for me. (And i am not a big fan of Adi- sugni jodi) .but i accept the relation,because they maybe wrong in their actions, but they intentions are good and pure( that is why i accept it). more over Jodi's are made from heaven. many a times we think love somebody and will want to marry them. but God chooses who he knows is best for us. (that doesnt count for people who are still married!!!)

(the problem i see here is people dont understand the ritual, magnitude, and the weight of marriage . they see no difference between a married and unmarried couple.)

secoundly, God never intended any body to be a prostitute, some are in it for money, some because of critical situation and others because of their barbaric culture. so do you mean sugni does not deserve to be a wife because traditions doesnt allow that?...because if i know a little about God i would tell you God is in total agreement with a (good person) prostitute getting marry. Yes, she is legally (by their traditions) his mistress. but here is the twist...he is not married!. so what makes it so wrong and confusing if he makes her his wife.
infact, thats the second reason...why this jodi makes sense to me.

Originally posted by: avyarima

Yes! you have said it all👏. TVS is married!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. you have a great logic here why Sugni and TVS jodi is not acceptable by me. Isn't that enough????????????????

see, i dont mean he must stay married, all am saying is He is married!!!!!!!!!!!!!. he should be good enough to deal with his wife case (even divorce her, i dont care), before going for Sugni because, like it or not TVS made her his mistress without her knowledge( i dont care why).
even if he is married to a witch, A MARRIED MAN IS OUT OF BOUND FOR ME, BUT I DONT HAVE PROBLEM WITH A DIVORCEE.

@ TOPIC STARTER ----I agree that Amurita's character in the show, and the lies( to the family) makes it difficult for people to accept Adi-Sugni's jodi and i totally agree with every one on this only because Amurita was a very good friend of Sugni , so friend's lovers are out of bounds too for me. (And i am not a big fan of Adi- sugni jodi) .but i accept the relation,because they maybe wrong in their actions, but they intentions are good and pure( that is why i accept it). more over Jodi's are made from heaven. many a times we think love somebody and will want to marry them. but God chooses who he knows is best for us. (that doesnt count for people who are still married!!!)

(the problem i see here is people dont understand the ritual, magnitude, and the weight of marriage . they see no difference between a married and unmarried couple.)

secoundly, God never intended any body to be a prostitute, some are in it for money, some because of critical situation and others because of their barbaric culture. so do you mean sugni does not deserve to be a wife because traditions doesnt allow that?...because if i know a little about God i would tell you God is in total agreement with a (good person) prostitute getting marry. Yes, she is legally (by their traditions) his mistress. but here is the twist...he is not married!. so what makes it so wrong and confusing if he makes her his wife.
infact, thats the second reason...why this jodi makes sense to me.

Originally posted by: hillydee

Thanks for your perspective and I truly appreciated the length of it and the time you took to respond to my post in a very intelligent way.

I think everyone can admit that Sugni's hurt is very plausible. I would never take that from her. My outrage was her methods that followed and her rationalisation to right the wrong she felt was being done by Vikram, and I believe that is the main contention of the outcome of events. No one faults Sugni for her anger, even though I believe is she had not lacked Maturity, there could have been a more in depth conversation with Vikram in spite of her anger, after all she almost married the man, I think they both owed that to each other. They could have spoken about this and she could have taken any decision she wanted. Her allowing this dialogue with Vikram would have also been more in line with the very same things you speak of, her love for him, trusting completely and seeing him as God. However, her feelings becomes conflicting and her immaturity becomes apparent, when she says "She trusts him completely," but she never once tried to hear his perspective, don't you think that is strange?

Any female I know, when she finds out that her man did her wrong, her normal reaction is " How could you?" "Why did you lie to me?' and I think she would normally wait for the answer because when you are in love, especially the way Sugni claimed to be ( I never thought telling a man you see him like God was something light to say and forget in a moment😲) even when you see his betrayal, the love still makes you in disbelieve it and hope that there is some miraculously good reason for this.😆 Not throw back his ring, tell him a few choice words, and run out to round up a whole town of men and you pick the richest one to take you to a life of unlimited Prostitution.

Maybe my fault is to think that all those big claims made by Sugni had some strength in it for her to at least hear him out before making a decision and absolutely and definitely not hooking up with his nephew under the guise of saving his wife who you know nothing about. Then eventually deciding to make a real marriage out of it, especially in such a short time. She moved on quite quickly for a girl so hurt. I thought she would have left him and went somewhere else to lick her wounds not live in the same house with her culprit and taunt him with his nephew for your so called good intention. What makes Sugni feel it is her right to make a decision for a Grown man to stay with his wife with her Grand Plan. Isn't Vikram grown enough to know what he wants? If she did not want him anymore , all she had to do was walk away to another place.

For the record, Vikram did not intentionally try to kill Gulabiya with the gun, nor did he ever try to kill her at any point in time. Vikram is a Man, not a little boy, it is only natural he would stand up to Gulabiya from day one, if he wanted to be with Sugni.

The only people that came in between Sugni and Gulabiya in the beginning are themselves. If their bond was strong as they claimed it was, if Sugni was loyal to her Mother like she pretended, no man, no one could have come between them. Gulabiya forced Sugni to choose her over her ambitions. Sugni put her ambitions over her Mother. No one can make you do what you truly do not want to do, even if they put a gun to your head.

Entertainment is one thing, but entertainment showing mixed, confusing and values deemed to be immoral even if it is by one person, cannot be truly Entertainment, but then again, it is my perspective and right, to not be entertained by rubbish that is being mixed with real life issues. Is it that marriage and God are such trivial things that you don't mind the cvs distort it for the sake of your entertainment? Is it so wrong that others don't feel that way and just want to stand for something they believe is against what they believe is right?

So, if you don't see anything wrong with what the Cvs are portraying and you feel that myself and others are taking this "entertainment." so seriously, don't you think we have the same right to how we feel?

My post was merely for a perspective towards what I perceive to be wrong. So, I expect some or most to say my perspective is wrong and why and some or most to say my perspective is right and why. Or I would be willing to live with everyone saying I am wrong and why.

What I am not expecting if we are individuals and have the right to how we feel, is that I must accept this as entertainment and not take it too seriously.

Thank you for your reply and I agree with many of the things you said.

I agree with you about Sugni being wrong about many things. However, I feel she took so many wrong steps because there were others, like her mother, telling her what she should do and what not. Everyone should have left Sugni on her own for a while to let her think and rationalize what she should do. Sugni's biggest mistake was to agree to go out and sell herself. She should have thought about all the things that had happened and then cooled down and talked to Vikram and let him explain his side of the story and then let him know what it is she wants him to do. Sugni on the other hand messed things up by making decisions in the heat of the moment. I hold Sugni accountable for a lot of the mess that as been made.

Firstly, I was always a Vikram and Sugni fan. However, I like Adi-Sugni now. But that wasn't what I was going to say. What I was going to say is that I am not sure why Sugni has to be so "angelic" and help Reva to get Vikram back? I could understand that she left him because he betrayed her trust but what I think is utterly ridiculous is that she wanted to go away from Vikram because she wanted to reunite Reva and TVS. I feel that she has nothing to do with TVS and Reva's relationship. If TVS does not love Reva and wants to divorce her then that is something he wants to do. She should have no right to tell him what he should do with his relationship or not. There is no love, understanding and willingness to be with each other in that marriage and it is better that they divorce. She should not consider herself to be the second woman who destroyed the relationship because TVS and Reva had no relationship to begin with.

Secondly, Sugni pushes TVS away and then cries about how he has gone so far away from her! She really needs to make up her mind. Do you want the guy or not? She is leading two men on and that is not fair for the both of them. I do feel bad for Sugni, however, I am not going to defend her for the things that she is doing wrong.

Thirdly, it is not Sugni's headache to think about what happens to Reva and her relationship. She needs to figure out what she wants. I am not sure why Sugni has this misconception that if she were to leave TVS then his and Reva's marriage will be better. The guy doesn't love her, for god sake he wants to kill her! He will not have a perfect relationship with Reva even is Sugni were to leave them two alone.

At the end though I do like Sugni and Adi because there relationship doesn't really have a lot of baggage which could in the future cause them trouble. My theory is that if you can not forgive the person wholeheartedly for their pass mistakes then it is better to leave them out of your life instead of giving them false hope.

I am not saying the CV's have the right to undermine God, His power or the values of relationship. What I was trying to say was that no matter what we feel the CV's are not going to change their scripts for us because the majority of the people wanted TVS and Sugni together, ultimately though the CV's did what they had intended to do. I was just trying to say that don't get mad over a show and ruin your day because at the end it is created to entertain us no matter how annoying and messed it can be.


Very confusing topic. It is hard to support one side of the coin. In this story each person has made lets of irrational choices, thus make is difficult to actually full on support one person with thought supporting another.

Originally posted by: rozetta

@ devranharish, despite all the negative comments on Adini jodi, Frankly I dnt mind so my friend plz dnt take the comments to heart, ur comments r truly valuable to me cuz i'm a adini fan like u.

I mean u said we lost but if u look on the bright side we adini fans actually WON!!!! I mean no matter what they say we still get to see adini as the main jodi, no matter how many bashing, we won cuz we get to see the adini jodi no matter what.

So to all Vikram fans, hope u enjoy

cuz i know i will