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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: minihussain

the moment he said "yeh pyar ka rasm hai" i got chills...it felt a bit creepy...i'm thinking Vikram's intention doesn't involve getting married...


Don't get me wrong...i loved the whole scene...with Viram Sugni jodi...and i'm starting to like Adi as well.. :)



I actually didn't hear and understand what he said the first time I watched. I had to watch again because I didn't understand why I didn't find the dance romantic like everyone else on the forum. Second time I picked up more creepy stuff. very sad that vickram is what he is.

I am trying not to say too much about Adi. He hasn't grown on me yet and i don't envision liking him ... but never say never!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Prabhdeep

@Shell16 I partially agree with what you said. I thought the first part where Vikram tells Sugni about love was perfectly fine and MAGICAL. His expressions were so perfect and the way his eyes were glued to her... It was all so perfect!


The dance and touch was amazing too and so romantic but I felt like he shouldn't have done that. It def did seem like he was trying to seduce her. It would've made more sense if he did that later on. Right now, it's just too early. Sugni hasn't had enough time to take in his confession and now this... (But the scene was awesome!).



Call me Shelly yes it may have worked better later. Maybe. And now he is not giving Sugni time to adjust to all this love stuff and is forging ahead with his agenda.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: s.munagala

@Areyaar - off topic, but I'm nuts about animals - I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, your pictures of the dogs as your siggy. I have a sweet little 2 year old Shih Tzu named "Rocky" who's just like my own kid! In fact my son and he are virtually inseparable themselves!

Ok back on topic now..., Let's not forget the symbolic "Sardhakai" that Vikram accidentally (or accidentally on purpose perhaps???) did on Sugni while throwing his "Lucky" cravat scarf to Sugni when she was attempting to start her stage show. Uuugg you really think he did that on purpose?


Which means that I think that it will not be possible for them to marry for both opposition from within HIS own family (Jiji, Haldi, Adi) & society as I don't see the Thakurs of Mahuari agreeing to it without casting both of them out of their midst.

We were also led to believe that Vikram has political aspirations (and..., you gotta start somewhere after all to get to the heights you aspire to). All this leads me to believe that it can only end in heartache for Sugni, & if he's true, then Vikram too. Perhaps they'll meet when she gains some experience in the world (but she's like 18 now & he's in his late 30's - a bit on the 'eeewww' side for me, I am trying to ignore the age difference because if I thought about it ... I would really be grossed out. I should be against this relationship on principle...why do men only want young things... but I love watching them together.

🤢 but love's blind I guess - so, I don't know how much, or even if, a geriatric relationship would be palatable to people. On the flip side of that, Mother's & Father's, heck even some grandma's hardly look older than their kids on T. V. in India. I wish they'd pass some of their fountain of youth onto the rest of us!!! 😆) I would like some of that! Lol!

Sugni will probably end up making her fortune in the city where she'll meet up with Vikram again... (hope I'm not giving any ideas to the creatives here, I would like to see their version unfold actually). Whether they both remain single by then is the question. Most likely we still see history repeating with her being single & Viks married. The more complicated it is, the more spice the story adds after all. 😉



Love your ideas about the future. For the relationship to work they have to be on equal footing some time in the future when Sugni has, on her own, made her dream come true!


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: kathie_berns

Oh my god!!! the dance had me hyper ventilating... Takur Vikram is so hot!!!!!

agreed on that 1!!!!!!
vikram just looks like the perfect man :-)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great Topic Shelly!
Yes I admit it was at this point that the cogs in my brain started spinning...is he playing with her...and it is at this point my thoughts splt into two...one side saying "Nooo, he knows her dreams, he knows that she wants to be different, in fact he himself chastised her, if you can remember when he saved her from the Vile Thakur who was about to attack her, when she went to dance in Gulabiya's place...So how /why would a man with such principles play with her dreams like that??? makes no sense to me...
Then on the other hand...he dose have feelings for her no doubt...and he just wants to make sure that she feels the same way, a verbal confirmation if you will, before going "public" as we all know that will be a big drama by itself , from the house people to the, community ect.
Add to that the episode when he unconciously , (that is my belief and I am sticking to it) did her sardahkai...hmmm send us further into confusion about this Thakur Saab
Gotta give props the the writers fro keeping us on the edge of our seats thinking, wondering, hoping ...
Will it be a case of Lust clogging the brain sending him crazy, clouding his reason? will it be that he is ashamed/ afraid to admit his feelings publicly because of what happened to his sister, or because of politics, which will only lead to heart break for poor Sugni either way...Ahhh
Ohh I can handle any of that as long as Adi is out of that Jodi ... guess we have to wait and watch!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Like the idea of Sugni moving to city and meeting VT again. And by then she should be in a better position economically.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vinnie79

Great Topic Shelly! Thanks!
Yes I admit it was at this point that the cogs in my brain started spinning...is he playing with her...and it is at this point my thoughts splt into two...one side saying "Nooo, he knows her dreams, he knows that she wants to be different, in fact he himself chastised her, if you can remember when he saved her from the Vile Thakur who was about to attack her, when she went to dance in Gulabiya's place...So how /why would a man with such principles play with her dreams like that??? makes no sense to me...
I know! that is why it is more heartbreaking now that he is starting to show his true self to the viewers. And everything he has done so far could be interpreted differently in hindsight. Even his chastising her...before it was like...he understands her and is disappointed in her but now it could mean he was upset that she was making herself available to other men when she should be mine. And it is interesting how he manipulated the other thakurs from leaving her alone in that scene. Without getting his hands dirty.


Then on the other hand...he dose have feelings for her no doubt...and he just wants to make sure that she feels the same way, a verbal confirmation if you will, before going "public" as we all know that will be a big drama by itself , from the house people to the, community ect.
hmmm have my doubts. The dance and the followup scenes on Friday really mean only one thing. He is playing her even if his feelings are real.

Add to that the episode when he unconciously , (that is my belief and I am sticking to it) did her sardahkai...hmmm send us further into confusion about this Thakur Saab
Gotta give props the the writers fro keeping us on the edge of our seats thinking, wondering, hoping ...

Someone else mentioned as well that the sardahkai was perhaps accidentally on purpose! That is really creeping out more! 😕


Will it be a case of Lust clogging the brain sending him crazy, clouding his reason? will it be that he is ashamed/ afraid to admit his feelings publicly because of what happened to his sister, or because of politics, which will only lead to heart break for poor Sugni either way...Ahhh
Ohh I can handle any of that as long as Adi is out of that Jodi ... guess we have to wait and watch!



Thanks Vinnie for your thoughts! I am sitting on the edge of my seat to see how the writers take this story forward. I really hope that they do justice to Vickram's character that in the end we still love him and sympathize with his reasons for doing what he is doing. I hope they don't make him into some sort of old lecher. There is another show on the telly right now (the lead's name is the same as Varun but starts with the letter "B") where they introduced another man who become obsessed with lead girl. Whom I really liked (the other man) and I saw so much potential for them to show another side to unwanted love. But the CVs completely butchered his character, made him into evil mogambo style villain. I hope that doesn't happen here. I know that Sugni's heart needs to be broken, she needs to face some really hard facts of life. She still believes in fairy tales with rajkumars who come to rescue girls. She needs to grow up but I am still hoping that Vick comes around when she is his equal. I know that is a contradiction but... 😳 😃

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Edited by Shell16 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey shelly kaki nice to see u here. Lovd ur post and ur thoughts are just same as mine love watching varun n like vikram as a character. I too want sugni to be with him bt only when his love is genuine and nt some plan.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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🤗Sadhli!

Wonderful to see you! I hope the show remain good and we get a chance to interact more here.

I was just about to go to bed. i will talk to you soon.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Shelly You have summarised the whole sequence very well. I was actually quite ok when Vikram came near sugni & lighted the lighter and was admiring her beauty. But the moment he put his hand on her waist and started to dance I knew he was going to seduce her & arouse her physically. He had already won over her mind & soul and only her body was left and he knew exactly how to get that. I dunno how and what sense prevailed that Sugni pulled out at the last moment & saved herself. But this sexual arouse has made her feel she is in love with Vikram & its such a huge Mistake that she will only realise it later.

But I must give it to Vikram for how he spun a web around her and trapped her completely.

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