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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sugni could have run away with fear, the first instant she saw Vikram standing there in the dark room with a lighter in hand, but she didn't. She allowed him to touch her and dance with her, because she had already fallen in love with her Thakur Malik. So there's no question of seduction. She stayed there on her own free will. She could leave anytime she wanted and she did with a shy smile on her face at the end. Vikram didn't hold her back. Pray and hope Vikram stays positive.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shell16

What was that dance? It was way too sexy! What were you thinking! What were you trying to do? Were you trying to seduce Sugni?

The dance, the touch, the looks .. .it was all very sexy. But at the same time we can see that, Vikram, you're doing it all very deliberately. Every move you made was very calculated and practiced. There was nothing spontaneous and the intent was clear it was to seduce young innocent Sugni. Which she was completely (along with most of us on the forum) she was swept away with emotion, passion, her first attraction to a man. *is it hot in here or is it me?*

Vikram, you're no innocent, you planned it all out at a very basic level. If your intentions were pure you don't do what you did. i am no prode but Sugni is right not before marriage and not with a girl with a background like Sugni's. if you respected her wishes you wouldn't have tried to seduce her, even emotionally, which you did completely.

She says I don't know anything about love and, Vik you said - you need to get to know me. But you took a very sensual way for you to get to know each other in a house where there is no one around? That is not the way to get to know a girl. There are lots of other ways.

The story hasn't revealed your true motives...what do you want? are you just playing and amusing yourself with Sugni? Because what you did isn't what you do with a girl you intent to marry.

I feel like Gulabiya. I am really afraid for Sugni. She is building all her girlish dreams of a prince with Vik and we know that, Vik , you're no prince and in fact in life there are no princes who come to rescue girls like Sugni. They need to fix whatever is wrong in their lives themselves. I am really scared that you're going to break more than just her heart. You're going to crush her hopes, her dreams and so much more.

I hope that at some point the story comes back to you and your redemption because as a character I really like you and as an actor I really enjoy Varun.

I don't really care for the Adi storyline. I have no sympathy for him! In fact I don't like him.

Vikram please smarten up. We need you to remain the way you are the man (not boy) that Sugni chooses at a later point when you're at equal footing not as a prince charming come to rescue her!


After Vikram has crushed all her hopes and dreams is when Adi will come to show the light in her life to justify the title Phir Subah Hogi!
Crap!
Anyway, I might not be there watching this show that long. Can't tolerate Adi and can't tolerate Vikram turned vile.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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That was my 1st comment VS is trying to seduce Sugni after the show in WU something is there and it spookes me it does not seem correct I may be right or wrong but thats what I felt
Edited by chalhov - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bee5

I had my doubts the day I saw TVS educate Adi on how to handle women - get their trust and all the blah.

And today this.
The whole dance was totally planned by him. However much he wanted to show he was in love, it wasn't working out for me. A wise, altruistic man would not do and say what he did today. It was creepy for me as well. Did not like it a bit and also did not like the fact that TVS was being turned negative.
Already I am irritated by the lack of attention to details in this show and if they turn TVS negative, I might stop watching this show. I less headache.

p.s: O re piya, though a slow song wasn't suiting western dance IMO.

I loved it - totally wierd in one respect and it was a rather western approach - plus the song, I thought it fit well - as a waltz beat in it. I agree though with the rest of the post - it will NOT be worth watching if he goes all negative and as they say a possessive lover - the whole reason I watch it is because he is not that way.
Yes, he did plan the dance but I hope not as a seduction attempt. Perhaps if takes her to eat chat it might be more believeable that he likes her. 😳😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: devilsadvocate

That was a very beautiful scene Asthetically...but I doubt that he was just trying to seduce Sugni...I think this goes much deeper...He wasnt just seducing...he was Sweeping her completely off her feet...That dance...That Ambience...the dream like romance...his beautiful poetic words...his compelling eyes...the almost kiss...and the gentlemanly apology after that...that was meant for Sugni to completely fall in love with him...no turning back...Thakur Vikram Singh is a dangerous dangerous man.

I will need go back and watch the scene again to enjoy the beauty. I was focusing too much on Vickram what are you doing? The seduction doesn't have to be all sexual, his trying to overwhelm her with emotion, romance so that she doesn't have time to think about anything clearly other than him. So agree he is a dangerous man ... Sugni is can't resist all that.
This is a very high game he is playing...no doubt he will turn grey (I will still ❤️ him...Varun just does that to you 😍) ...the man doesnt even breathe without prior thought...this whole scheme of his definitely has something behind it...I wonder what that is...I mean it cant be to demean Jwala singh...that man has no emotional connection to anyone...let alone Sugni his bas***d child...so Then why is Vikram doing what he is doing??? it is so hard to understand what he is up to. his short term goal is to get Sugni to fall in love with him completely without any reservations. But his long term plan is still all a mystery.
If I was Sugni...I would be very very afraid of him (hell, as much as I admire the guy, I am still terrified of him) ...His easy charm...his truthful speeches...his support...those looks...this disarming quality...and the ability to be her Knight in shinning armor, whenever she needs one...these things are bound to break down a persons defenses...even someone as realistic and practical as Sugni...its almost like he knows what she needs in her life...his perfection in creating equality and understanding her and her self respect so easily...this is designed to get under her skin...its to enchant her heart and mind so thoroughly, that she wouldnt question his motivation twice...he is generating blind faith in her...my question is Why??Exactly! You said exactly how I feel. in the heat of the moment it is so easy to think that it is love. he doesn't want to give her a chance to question his motives but as the audience you're left wondering Why Vick why? What do you want? Love it.
Adi...if only Sexy Eyes was a Better Actor *sigh*...his character has potential...and I think he is a good actor in his own right...but with people like, Varun and Narayani and Sugni...they eat him alive!! *SMH*
In order for your eyes to be sexy they have to speak to the audience but they don't say a think. Not sure where he got that. We'll see what he does!



Thanks for your reply I added my comments above! :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -rupa-

Vikram 😍 Dance was 😳

But seeing the dance i was like 😲..i really have to see it again & i felt he has feeling for sugini & he want the same from her ..i dont think he can let her go from his life . He made her understand what he wants in very clear way and expected the same without giving her time either he know sugini will not let her heart open for him as she think he is god & not another human ...somewhere he got carried way when he felt sugini in his arms ..he said sorry too . He might lust her , love her ..dont know but when they are together screen burns with there chemistry .
As far as ADI goes i feel he suits with amrita & leaving her would be same as vikram being married ..so his character should be either supportive but not falling in love with sugini.



The scene does sizzle wtth them...doesn't it!!!! I just want to see the two of them together. Or even with other characters! They are both great.

The less said about Adi the better.
Edited by Shell16 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I will need go back and watch the scene again to enjoy the beauty. I was focusing too much on Vickram what are you doing? The seduction doesn't have to be all sexual, his trying to overwhelm her with emotion, romance so that she doesn't have time to think about anything clearly other than him. So agree he is a dangerous man ... Sugni is can't resist all that.


for a person so considerate and who seems to anticipate her feelings and needs before she utters somehow for me it did not appear as if he was making her more comfortable but looked like he wanted to flood her with so many emotions(so far unknown to her) she would drown and not understand her sane and practical world but would drown in those unknown emotions and maybe it maybe be infatuation /awe for what he is doing for her and her family will it be love


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bee5

I had my doubts the day I saw TVS educate Adi on how to handle women - get their trust and all the blah. I dont' remember the exact conversation but you're right I do remember thinking that the conversation was odd. They weren't about understanding women more about how to get what you want out of them.

And today this.
The whole dance was totally planned by him. However much he wanted to show he was in love, it wasn't working out for me. A wise, altruistic man would not do and say what he did today. It was creepy for me as well. Did not like it a bit and also did not like the fact that TVS was being turned negative.
I am so happy that there are others on this thread that felt as uncomfortable during that dance as me. All the deliberate moves / words of his were so cringe-worthy. It was really hard to enjoy the scene when I couldn't get past that this is not right.

Already I am irritated by the lack of attention to details in this show and if they turn TVS negative, I might stop watching this show. I less headache.
The scene change from the mother/son conversation to everyone running off to the wedding was very abrupt. Not familiar with the local culture so haven't picked up too much on attention to detail. I have noticed that the language and dialect don't seem right. Would love to hear your thoughts of what else is incorrect.

p.s: O re piya, though a slow song wasn't suiting western dance IMO. LOL!



My comments above in blue.
Edited by Shell16 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: namitagloryz

Sugni could have run away with fear, the first instant she saw Vikram standing there in the dark room with a lighter in hand, but she didn't. She allowed him to touch her and dance with her, because she had already fallen in love with her Thakur Malik. So there's no question of seduction. She stayed there on her own free will. She could leave anytime she wanted and she did with a shy smile on her face at the end. Vikram didn't hold her back. Pray and hope Vikram stays positive.



Aaah but it is not about that...Sugni is fascinated by him and at that age you don't see the danger Vikram represents. And she did run away.

i will reserve judgement if it is really love or attraction. Or something created as a result of Vickram's plan.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: chalhov

That was my 1st comment VS is trying to seduce Sugni after the show in WU something is there and it spookes me it does not seem correct I may be right or wrong but thats what I felt



you're so right. There is something very wrong with Vickram's approach.

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