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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: appynehra

Hi all!!

This is my second post on the forum!

I am predominantly from Rajasthan and a lover of historical fiction/shows. Thanks a lot MaddyO for sharing this beautiful piece of excerpt from the book.

I always feel that the cbse course (where i studied) from doesn't teach us much about the Maratha or south Indian history which is much more rich and I am always curious about.

Honestly, it was Sanjay Leela Bhansali and then this series because of which I tried reading up about all this on google. I would love if someone could share nice historical fiction books which also speak about the personal lives of these rulers.

Appy



Hi Appynehra, welcome to Peshwa Bajirao forum 😃
I am glad you enjoyed reading the excerpt. The book Shriman Yogi is very famous and well loved and read. There are so many editions of this book, I think most Maharashtrians homes would have copy of this book.

Shriman Yogi, Rauu, Swami though historical books also contain lot of information about personal lives.

There are so many Marathi books on historical characters, some of them are translated into English and/or Hindi.

Abhay has already shared names of some books available in English.

Apart from books Abhay has suggested you might want to read "Swami" by Ranjit Desai. This book is on Madhavrao Peshwe, grandson of Bajirao Peshwe. He was also very capable ruler and Hindi version of this book is available on Amazon.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Hey Marathi Mulagi 😊 You are welcome
I have read Swami too. I think after Bajirao Peshwa, it was Madhavrao who was the most accomplished and achieved a lot. He died of Rajyakshma (or TB) quite young.

I have not read Rau. My 3 most favorite historical books are Shriman Yogi, Mrutyunjay and Swami in that order. I have read Babasaheb Purandare's book on Shivaji Maharaj too.

If you liked Swami, I am sure you will love reading Shriman Yogi. I watched that serial too I used to love its title song done by Pandit Hridaynath Mangeshkar.

as person i like madhaorao more than bajirao
but as warrior bajirao was gr8
then madhaorao was no less only he din't got much time n when he started it was so much damage has done to maratha empire after panipat loss
wish someone make show on him too
watch ravindra mankani as swami was awesome love rama madhav

rau is not from starting its from mastani times
so din't like much only felt kashibai's pain
din't read shriman yogi n babasaheb's coz they r mighty books n m slow reader

about mritunjay din't read but read radheya by ranjit desai n liked it.

m trying to get time to read shriman yogi
n want to read chhava

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Posted: 8 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: MaddyO




You are welcome Diksha 😊 I am sure you have read it many times before.

I don't even remember how many times I have read Shriman Yogi, from start to finish or just random chapters as per mood.

You are a fast reader
😃
Eagerly waiting for your post after reading the book again.

same here like to read parts of books again when mood to be swami had read many times😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



I am responding to you as i feel i can understand where you are coming from. I too, have followed Rajasthan history for a long time. And felt the same as you when i tried to delve into South Indian history. In the starting, the most problematic thing for me was to understand the complex relations and the politics of dynasties. Its almost 2 years now and i am at ease with it.

Most of the books about these rulers are present from a political point of view. We have to pick up the anecdotes about their personal lives from these political narratives. Very rarely a book deals with the personal life.

About Shivaji there is a Marathi book called Shriman Yogi (as mentioned earlier in this thread). But its English translation is out of stock. You can check the address given on Page 2 / 3 of this thread.

But about Bajirao there is a fantastic book called - "Rauu" . The author calls it historical fiction but even then it is regarded as a great book. He has researched before writing this "novel". It is related to Bajirao and Mastani and i feel this should be read. Till now, this was available in Marathi only, but now this has been translated in English too, just few months back. Search on Amazon with keywords - " Rau : translated by Vikrant Pande " . You can also read some sample pages there.

Whoever starts to read about Bajirao is recommended this book only ( i was also recommended and many members here too, have mentioned this. ) Rest of the books which i have read are mostly political narratives. Wars. Battles. etc. "Rau" comes most close to describing his personal life, i feel. :)


@Maddy
I have posted my views about Shivaji on your thread made for the purpose. Great to read this post. :)


Hi history geek,

I came across Rauu when I googled about Bajirao the movie but I didn't know that they came up with a English translation! That would be so great to read!

That is what makes me more curious- we never know what their real story is.

If you people have watched themovie-would love to hear your thoughts on the same..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Hi Appynehra, welcome to Peshwa Bajirao forum 😃
I am glad you enjoyed reading the excerpt. The book Shriman Yogi is very famous and well loved and read. There are so many editions of this book, I think most Maharashtrians homes would have copy of this book.

Shriman Yogi, Rauu, Swami though historical books also contain lot of information about personal lives.

There are so many Marathi books on historical characters, some of them are translated into English and/or Hindi.

Abhay has already shared names of some books available in English.

Apart from books Abhay has suggested you might want to read "Swami" by Ranjit Desai. This book is on Madhavrao Peshwe, grandson of Bajirao Peshwe. He was also very capable ruler and Hindi version of this book is available on Amazon.


Thankyou so much for the welcome 😃 I guess Abhay is history_geek if I am not wrong. You can call me Arpita or Appy as you like 😊

Oh wow! Yeah I tried to look up about other Peshwas too sometime ago but didn;t find much. It seems Swami would be a good read. By the wway, when it comes to reading- my hindi is bad- I hope to get an English version. Nowadays, schools spoil hindi for us bigtime so...only focus on making us well versed in English 😳

Wow! Shriman Yogi seems to be really popular then!

Thanks btw... I'll put all these books in my bucket list 😃

Appy!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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It turned me nostalgic...have lost the count of how may times i have read shriman yogi along with narhar kurundkar's preface...thanks for sharing english translation...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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thanks for this post, its really amazing...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Proud of my history and heritage.
Thank you for this wonderful post on Shivaji Maharaj.
Jai Bhavani. Jai Shivaji. Its true he is on level of god to us. šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Maddy
The extract is wonderful - the ironic reference to smallness more than makes it clear just what a towering personality Shivaji Maharaj is, even outside Maharashtra.

Just yesterday, i got a crash course on his biography from my son's history book. His fascination for forts and the way he used them as strongholds while expanding his empire and befuddling the enemy is incredible. It's true that there are few parallels if any of kings who started from scratch and left an unsurpassed legacy in India.

The details about the books given here are really helpful for every novice who wants to catch up on Maratha history. But i also look forward to more posts from you and the discussions therein to learn about the same.

Thanks so much for the post and really sorry for the delay.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: appynehra



Hi history geek,

I came across Rauu when I googled about Bajirao the movie but I didn't know that they came up with a English translation! That would be so great to read!

That is what makes me more curious- we never know what their real story is.

If you people have watched themovie-would love to hear your thoughts on the same..



Arpita,
Do get the book. I hope you educate us too about what you read. :)

@Bold..
Never think like this. Just try to dig deep and more deep. Read whatever you can get from anywhere. I am saygin this as, at least this is what i do to reach as close to reality as possible. Even a different language does not proves to be a hindrance to me. Lol { Maddy knows this well.}


Coming to the movie. I liked the movie. There were lot of things in it which were good, along with some shortcomings. Did not like that Pinga song at all. Really awkward. Unwanted !

{If you have read the reviews then you must be knowing that } the movie was mostly criticized by " established / formal critics " for showing the Peshwa as "love sick and drunkard" but i really had no objection with that. Actually, there is a strange aversion to love among our present day intelligentsia / intellectuals. Same happened during JA. They find it tough to believe that these people can love someone.

It is clearly on record so much change came in him at the end of his life. Movie did not even show a fraction of that "change" which is on record else there would have been a brawl !!

In my latest blog about Peshwa and Nasir i have mentioned he was under depression and suffered from bursts of anger towards the end of his life due to separation with Mastani. The link is given in the forum. Please see my thread. What Bhansali did here was merely an adaptation of this particular segment of history.

It is on record that till the end he looked forward to Mastani. Chatrapati Shahu was against separating Mastani from Bajirao. And, in the end, even Chimaji was of opinion that Mastani should be sent to Bajirao. Anyway. It will come later in show and we will discuss it there. :)

What i would have loved to see more in the movie was his OWN personal side. He was completely unorthodox. A man who promoted his soldiers purely on merit not by caste etc considerations. Various other issues are there. Due to these things he became so much unpopular among his own community that they boycotted him.

Very very few people know that there was a "spitting revolt" against this fighting Peshwa till very very recently. His being born a Brahmin proved to be his biggest enemy in the present day caste politics. He was "made" to be forgotten. Else, just think why was a movie required to make us remember that there was an undefeated military genius in 18th century. He is literally called the destroyer of Mughal Empire, especially in Pakistani school of thought !

I wrote what i thought. Hope did not miss anything.
To sum up i liked the movie, overall. :D

- Abhay

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