How small Shivaji was... - Page 5

Originally posted by: Marathi_Mulgi

as person i like madhaorao more than bajirao

but as warrior bajirao was gr8

then madhaorao was no less only he din't got much time n when he started it was so much damage has done to maratha empire after panipat loss

wish someone make show on him too

watch ravindra mankani as swami was awesome love rama madhav

rau is not from starting its from mastani times

so din't like much only felt kashibai's pain

din't read shriman yogi n babasaheb's coz they r mighty books n m slow reader

about mritunjay din't read but read radheya by ranjit desai n liked it.

m trying to get time to read shriman yogi

n want to read chhava

Originally posted by: Revolutionbreez

It turned me nostalgic...have lost the count of how may times i have read shriman yogi along with narhar kurundkar's preface...thanks for sharing english translation...

Originally posted by: aksh26

thanks for this post, its really amazing...

Originally posted by: Hey_Bhaggu

Proud of my history and heritage.

Thank you for this wonderful post on Shivaji Maharaj.

Jai Bhavani. Jai Shivaji. Its true he is on level of god to us. 👏👏👏

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi Maddy

The extract is wonderful - the ironic reference to smallness more than makes it clear just what a towering personality Shivaji Maharaj is, even outside Maharashtra.

Just yesterday, i got a crash course on his biography from my son's history book. His fascination for forts and the way he used them as strongholds while expanding his empire and befuddling the enemy is incredible. It's true that there are few parallels if any of kings who started from scratch and left an unsurpassed legacy in India.

The details about the books given here are really helpful for every novice who wants to catch up on Maratha history. But i also look forward to more posts from you and the discussions therein to learn about the same.

Thanks so much for the post and really sorry for the delay.

Originally posted by: history_geek

Arpita,
Do get the book. I hope you educate us too about what you read. :)

@Bold..
Never think like this. Just try to dig deep and more deep. Read whatever you can get from anywhere. I am saygin this as, at least this is what i do to reach as close to reality as possible. Even a different language does not proves to be a hindrance to me. Lol { Maddy knows this well.}

😃😃😃 True! Abhay reminded me of JA days. Was it Persian documents you had got hold of and I think Jodah had helped in translation.


Coming to the movie. I liked the movie. There were lot of things in it which were good, along with some shortcomings. Did not like that Pinga song at all. Really awkward. Unwanted !

You know Nana Patekar was upset about the Malhari song too. He had blasted about taking such creative liberties and I believe had asked if somebody makes a movie on Shivaji Maharaj will he be made to sing too!

I hope the rumors of Alladin Khilji in dream sequence with Padmini/Padmavati is FALSE!

{If you have read the reviews then you must be knowing that } the movie was mostly criticized by " established / formal critics " for showing the Peshwa as "love sick and drunkard" but i really had no objection with that. Actually, there is a strange aversion to love among our present day intelligentsia / intellectuals. Same happened during JA. They find it tough to believe that these people can love someone.

It is clearly on record so much change came in him at the end of his life. Movie did not even show a fraction of that "change" which is on record else there would have been a brawl !!

In my latest blog about Peshwa and Nasir i have mentioned he was under depression and suffered from bursts of anger towards the end of his life due to separation with Mastani. The link is given in the forum. Please see my thread. What Bhansali did here was merely an adaptation of this particular segment of history.

It is on record that till the end he looked forward to Mastani. Chatrapati Shahu was against separating Mastani from Bajirao. And, in the end, even Chimaji was of opinion that Mastani should be sent to Bajirao. Anyway. It will come later in show and we will discuss it there. :)

What i would have loved to see more in the movie was his OWN personal side. He was completely unorthodox. A man who promoted his soldiers purely on merit not by caste etc considerations. Various other issues are there. Due to these things he became so much unpopular among his own community that they boycotted him.

Very very few people know that there was a "spitting revolt" against this fighting Peshwa till very very recently. His being born a Brahmin proved to be his biggest enemy in the present day caste politics. He was "made" to be forgotten. Else, just think why was a movie required to make us remember that there was an undefeated military genius in 18th century. He is literally called the destroyer of Mughal Empire, especially in Pakistani school of thought !

I wrote what i thought. Hope did not miss anything.
To sum up i liked the movie, overall. :D

- Abhay


Abhay, I remember my grandmother telling stories about Bajirao's valor in our childhood, Mastani's beauty is talked about and also he building a Mastani Mahal for her.

What is sad is that it required a movie for people to become aware of his true contribution of India.

I sometimes wonder - none of the Peshwas/Ballal family - being Bramhins did not marry more than once. So was this also a very sore point not just who Mastani was?

I have read about only one wife of Balaji(Radhabai), Nanasaheb(Gopika), Madhavrao(Rama), Raghoba(Anandi) etc. Don't remember about Chimnaji but I think he also had only one wife.

Originally posted by: MaddyO