Ankita/Naren non-consenual relationship - Page 6

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

TM, your post makes sense in general but every situation should be taken in its own context. In this case, Naren is mentally unstable due to an unfortunate accident associated with his love life. Otherwise, he's a good guy with a lot of potential and someone who is actually a credit to society. Would it be a crime to lock him up because he's mentally unstable? I think it would, because that's only one aspect of his personality. Would it be a crime if it's allowed to go untreated risking his and possibly other's lives? Maybe. Would it be a crime if a doctor diagnosed that Naren can be cured or atleast treated if Ankita married him and she agreed to it? No, because in this case the other options are far more harmful to him. And in the absence of his own mental faculties, his parents took the decision that was best for him. Once the marriage was done, would it be fair to Ankita or even Naren for that matter to not fully accept the marriage? How long do you think Ankita should have waited to accept the marriage fully-- forever if Naren would only be cured by Pari/ Ahana and she was actually dead like the Karmarkar family assumed? Ankita did risk her life to try and cure him, and she did atleast partly. He still has the Ahana fixation, but atleast he's not harming himself or others. Knowing that the attempt was only partially successful, Ankita had three options before her:

1. Leave him to his state and break the marriage uncaring if he relapsed or worse

2. Stay married to him but remain celibate-- again for how long? Even if she wanted to, would Naren allow for it?

3. Accept the marriage fully because "Ahana" was dead and while it was an inconvenience that Naren still thought of her as Ahana, she loved him and the love he had for "her" was enough for her.

What would you say she should have done in this case? Which of these is the lesser crime? What other option did she have?

Please accept my heartfelt appreciation for stirring the hornet's nest by making an attempt to have a discussion on such a bold topic ..👏👏

Originally posted by: nikki1591

I dont think she should have married him in the first place knowing his condition because the marriage for me was deceptive in itself considering that Naren belived to be marrying Ahana

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

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But wouldn't that be inhumane too? According to her limited knowledge on the subject and the expertise of the doctor, she was the only person Naren showed any kind of response to. That was the reason his parents were willing to overlook Ankita's poverty, Soham's thievery et al. She gave him a new lease of life. It is highly likely his condition would have worsened if she had not married him-- after all, he was already in a pretty bad state in the one year or so since the accident with "Ahana" happened. While it is not a crime to not help a sick man if you have the means to, it is definitely inhumane.

Originally posted by: nikki1591

bc my issue is about consent to a marriage and sex. Naren parents are also culpable but Ankita is the one marrying and having sexual relations with Naren. Not the buisnessman, not the wedding guests, and definately not his parents. Singling out Ankita does not mean others are not wrong, just as singling out others does not mean Ankita is right. This issue is only about consentto a sexual relationship by a man who belives he is married to Ahana, not Ankita. The other issues mentioned are irrelevant to this topic.

I dont see why the other issues are irrelevant to this topic. Either Naren is mentally ill or he is not. If he is mentally ill for his marriage and cohabiting with his wife, he is mentally ill for other things too. If his present state is good enough to sign agreements, then how come he is not in a position to consent to living with his wife. If legalities are relevant in one situation, they are relevant in the other too. And Ankita never told him that she is Ahana. It is Naren who is saying so and everyone is playing along only with an intention of not upsetting him as per the doctors advice. How is that cheating?
Naren is a wonderful person. So is Ankita. Their current relationship is an ideal one. Their future one will not be. But to absolve Naren and others of all blame and use of such strong words for only Ankita is not done , in my opinion. For me Ankita is a vulnerable and unfortunate young girl who is about to lose the man she loves, not someone who took advantage of a situation or a rapist .

Ankita is not taking advantage of him but you are right. The relationship is non-consensual because Naren is not in the right state of mind.

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

But wouldn't that be inhumane too? According to her limited knowledge on the subject and the expertise of the doctor, she was the only person Naren showed any kind of response to. That was the reason his parents were willing to overlook Ankita's poverty, Soham's thievery et al. She gave him a new lease of life. It is highly likely his condition would have worsened if she had not married him-- after all, he was already in a pretty bad state in the one year or so since the accident with "Ahana" happened. While it is not a crime to not help a sick man if you have the means to, it is definitely inhumane. And while it is a crime to marry a sick man since he is not in his full senses, it was done with the best intentions for his betterment and the consent of all parties involved (or his guardians in this case). There are a lot of legal, moral and ethical ambiguities in this case.

Now once Naren gets fully cured, he may not remember or accept Ankita. And that is fine. I fully expect that, just as I expect Ankita to fight for acceptance. I doubt either of them is going to court over this and it's not because PR shies away from a juicy courtroom drama (after all, Archana testified against Manav in the court of law, among plenty other court cases). It's because in this case, neither is to blame for the events that occurred and neither can say they were deceived with the specific intention in mind.

@bold: That was my point too. This situation is very complicated.

Nice post btw. I agree with your points.

Originally posted by: bitasta

Please accept my heartfelt appreciation for stirring the hornet's nest by making an attempt to have a discussion on such a bold topic ..👏👏

Hats off to you for spurring some actual thought provoking discussions in the Forum after a long time...

I understand what you are trying to say but I would not even attempt to give my inputs because I do not have the legal knowledge nor enough understanding of the subject you have presented..

With regards to Ankita Naren or Pari Naren, I only hope and wish that the CVs handle the story with required maturity and adequate sensibility...

Sometimes it is a delight to read than write... This is one of such threads..

Once again... kudos to you... Accept the bow...😃😃

I totally understand where TM is coming from.

I never saw Ankita tell naren by herself that she is Ahana. It was naren who insisted that she is ahana , even when initially she and her family would correct him. She and all others let him call her ahana because it kept him calm. So where is the question of Ankita cheating him? All the time it was Naren who was insisting that she was Ahana.