Who should have called Ovi or Armaan?W Pg.15 - Page 8

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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam


The thing is, when purvi hid an even bigger truth and when manav or archana found out---they didn't disown her immediately or forever! Manav believed Ovi only after he saw the video footage and archana actually asked purvi directly in the presence of Ovi alone, without even making a scene. Both the parents gave purvi a chance to explain her side of the story. Did Ovi get that?


Purvi was in front of them so they could ask her directly!
Ovi was in Canada when this happened, ArMaan were in India. Then ArMaan moved to Canada but Ovi ran away to Australia! How would ArMaan sit down and have a talk with Ovi when she didnt bother to go and meet them? Why didnt she go to them and take Pia with her?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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There is no mocking and ridicule involved...Btw, how is this becomes a question when certain members use emoticons, but when the members use the same emoticons- they don't consider it as mocking the other members making the post...isn't that weird...examples are in this very thread...if of course, not edited out...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25

Arjun wasnt engaged to Ovi when he came to India! 😆 He didnt even love Ovi, he just agreed to marry her because he considered her as a good friend and their families had business and personal relationships.

He fell in love with Purvi who didnt know abt Ovi ...Arjun got engaged to Ovi much later, AFTER he had fallen for Purvi and confessed his love to her. Even that engagement was a surprise planned by his dad and Manav, in which he had no hand or prior knowledge.

The emoticon is actual mocking a member with a different POV...or this is different???
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ovi did not snatch Arjun from Purvi second time...Archana did not accept Ovi's deal. Purvi accepted it at the last minute after waiting for days. While Ovi already had given up on Arjun & accepted the reality of ArVi marriage & was trying to kill herself... She decided to offer Arjun to Ovi w/o even consulting it with Arjun. So It was Purvi who gave Arjun her pyaar ka vaasta or should I say to prove his love to her miss Purvi he should marry Ovi...She gave the same vaasta to give Ovi patni ka darja and have sex with her..

Innocent Arjun had gun over his head so he married Ovi, Had sex with her, impregnated her. He even got her pregnant second time as they were still having physical relationship as a married couple while he was eyeing and ooogling over Purvi..

Innocent Purvi & naive Arjun but bad bad evil Ovi. Yeah right.


Edited by Dabulls23 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: Kalapi

The emoticon is actual mocking a member with a different POV...or this is different???


Its not different POV, but a complete fallacy which is being laughed at. While debating at least people shd be aware of the real facts that is shown in the episodes!
Besides when some logical questions are being asked, instead of giving logical answers, calling them bashers is against the rules.
Again, why did Ovi keep in touch with Arjun but not with her parents?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam


The thing is, when purvi hid an even bigger truth and when manav or archana found out---they didn't disown her immediately or forever! Manav believed Ovi only after he saw the video footage and archana actually asked purvi directly in the presence of Ovi alone, without even making a scene. Both the parents gave purvi a chance to explain her side of the story. Did Ovi get that?


but we dont noe that yet. the storyline has yet to be presented. so once again i dont understand why we are arguing over a yet to be presented storyline
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: soniiyaa



@red: great points di! It's true that Ovi kept in contact with Arjun inspite of him "pretending" to love her, breaking the engagement and promise to marry her, and not telling her about pari and the countless other ways I'm sure a man in love with another woman intentionally or UN-intentionaly may hurt his wife. She even had sex with him after she found out about Pari etc which never EVER made sense to me. And this isn't to bash Ovi... but it's an interesting point that she kept contact with him... but not her parents. She forgave him and brought his child into the world (remember when she said Purvi should have aborted Pari b/c Arjun was married to Ovi?) & then never cared about that child and maintained contact with him but didn't contact her parents.

I maintain my original point that both Ovi and Arman owed it to each other to find out the truth and explain themselves. They're FAMILY! But it is a very interesting to note the point that Ovi didn't call Arman after the apparent disowning but maintained contact with Arjun who had been the root problem of her issues and further more ignored their daughter together. I wonder why...

But honestly speaking, they haven't revealed exactly what happend between Ovi and Arman. Did Arman speak to her and find out truth or did Ovi try to explain? Did they ever contact e/o etc etc.



Is it possible that she doesn't expect anything from arjun but expected that her parents would support her no matter what? Is it possible that she was hurt that they had decided to believe the worst of her and disowned her, without any verification, when she needed help and their support and love the most? Is it possible that she's accepted that arjun is only a friend, her friend, and that she cares for him even though he doesn't in the same way for her so she's ok with that relationship the way it is? But that she expected that her dad and the rest of her family who did love her, who had raised her and who had known her all her life, to hear her out, to understand her stance and love her unconditionally?

And there are double standards and different measures for every character and every relationship. Didn't purvi sell arjun out on the day of their wedding, betrayed him in the worst possible way, but he still continued to love her? Didn't she hide the truth of his baby (ies) from him and did she not leave him when she saw him with Ovi and Pia without giving him a single chance to explain? Did she not allow pari to develop hatred for arjun? Isn't it interesting that arjun continues to love this woman who has never chosen him anytime there was a choice and betrayed him more than once, when he takes for granted a loyal friend who was once his wife and the mother of his daughter? How can we explain this? How can we explain archana's ego that she willingly parted with all her biological children to prove a point to manav? How can we explain archana's love for varsha that made her ignore manav and give away soham as a baby when she knew their history--- varsha had already kidnapped soham once and had been obsessed with him. These and a lot more relationships in the show and maybe in real life are not easily explained, but they exist. The problem with ARMAN and Ovi vs Purvi is that both are their children, but they have different yardsticks for measuring them. This when the relationship between parents and children should be the one relationship that is a constant---it shouldn't change depending on who the child is! A person can behave differently with different friends, more caring towards one or the other. Even siblings, you can be closer to one more than the other (s). But for parents, all children are the same. Or at least, they should be!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25


Its not different POV, but a complete fallacy which is being laughed at. While debating at least people shd be aware of the real facts that is shown in the episodes!
Besides when some logical questions are being asked, instead of giving logical answers, calling them bashers is against the rules.
Again, why did Ovi keep in touch with Arjun but not with her parents?

So, you agree that you are laughing at a member openly, fallacy or not is debatable, and as a member I believe the rule of the forum is to present one's view without belittling/mocking fellow debaters. It is also the rule of a good debate. It is extremely demoralizing and disrespectful to laugh at an argument simply because you think that it is 'poor' argument. It breaks the spirit of camaraderie needed for smooth functioning of a forum such as this. anyway, I leave it to fellow members to decide and conclude whether this is an acceptable conduct in a virtual world...Besides, thinking/assuming that the other member is unaware of actual facts or is cooking up storyline is actual an 'assumption' that again breaks the spirit of a good debate as well as create an unpleasant environment not helpful for a productive debate. I leave the rest to the fellow members to decide...

Edited by Kalapi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Just to straighten the facts out...it was Ms Purvi who forced Arjun to marry Ovi...Not only that, she systematically planned Arovi's wedding down to every details and set the Mandap up. There is no snatching involved...Ovi did say something to the effect ' you are doing it for me' Ovi was slightly wrong per the storyline - Purvi did it for Mom Archana and not for her...


FACT: a person cannot be snatched, unless they are blackmailed or have a gun held to their head, a person usually makes the decision to leave or stay in the relationship.
FACT: when purvi found out about arjun being engaged to ovi, she broke of the relationship
FACT: arjun and purvi became engaged only after arjun ovi relationship had been broken off
FACT: if you love someone, you do not try to force them to accept you bc loving means wanting the best for them, not the best for you.
btw if it is wrong that Purvi was seriously wrong when she told Arjun to marry ovi if Arjun loved Purvi, then how is only slightly wrong that ovi told purvi to give arjun back if she loved her mother and wanted to make her mother happy. they both blackmailed him with love. but of course theres no bias in that😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25


Purvi was in front of them so they could ask her directly!
Ovi was in Canada when this happened, ArMaan were in India. Then ArMaan moved to Canada but Ovi ran away to Australia! How would ArMaan sit down and have a talk with Ovi when she didnt bother to go and meet them? Why didnt she go to them and take Pia with her?


But didn't they think she was living with arjun in India? You can't have it both ways-- that they knew she was with arjun so they didn't care about her and they didn't know where she was, so they couldn't ask her. The truth as shown in the serial is the first option--they knew where she was and they just didn't bother to talk to her, ever.

And btw, according to the main topic, it is not about why who did what 😆 Its about who among armaan and Ovi should have made the effort to reconcile.
Edited by sowmya_jairam - 11 years ago

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